Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Google Apps Standard Edition @ gentoo.org

2010-04-01 Thread Vincent Launchbury
On 03/31/10 16:28, Sebastian Pipping wrote: I am worried that if people start using say Google Docs for collaborating on Gentoo content, everyone else is forced to use Google Docs to participate. While I do appreciate projects like TechTalks and Summer of Code I personally do not trust Google wi

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Google Apps Standard Edition @ gentoo.org

2010-03-31 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 04/01/10 02:44, Mike Frysinger wrote: > the rest of your gentoo-dev vs gentoo-core logic has been addressed by > Brian/Jorge -- this is the internet, you have no privacy, get over it. privacy is not black and white. i'm aware there's no leak-free zone. i have put my point clear before, if tha

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Google Apps Standard Edition @ gentoo.org

2010-03-31 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 31 March 2010 19:49:15 Sebastian Pipping wrote: > On 04/01/10 01:09, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > no one is forcing you to, nor is anyone talking about having teams use > > it. if Gentoo developers themselves choose to, it's going to happen > > irregardless of what Alec is proposing. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Google Apps Standard Edition @ gentoo.org

2010-03-31 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 31-03-2010 23:49, Sebastian Pipping wrote: > On 04/01/10 01:09, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> your logic does not lead to the statement that gentoo-core is the >> appropriate >> place. > > point takes, it's not the non-technical nature - i should put

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Google Apps Standard Edition @ gentoo.org

2010-03-31 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 01:49:15AM +0200, Sebastian Pipping wrote: > point takes, it's not the non-technical nature - i should put it > clearer: it's the fact that everyone on the net will be able to read > what anyone said on google in this thread. any one of us may change his > mind on that but

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Google Apps Standard Edition @ gentoo.org

2010-03-31 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 04/01/10 01:09, Mike Frysinger wrote: > no one is forcing you to, nor is anyone talking about having teams use it. > if > Gentoo developers themselves choose to, it's going to happen irregardless of > what Alec is proposing. we are talking about public, shared work on gentoo - not about stu

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Google Apps Standard Edition @ gentoo.org

2010-03-31 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 31 March 2010 17:33:17 Sebastian Pipping wrote: > On 03/31/10 23:20, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Wednesday 31 March 2010 16:28:15 Sebastian Pipping wrote: > >> To be very clear: Please take my vote against increasing dependencies on > >> Google. > > > > so dont use it > > > >> On a

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Google Apps Standard Edition @ gentoo.org

2010-03-31 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 03/31/10 23:20, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 31 March 2010 16:28:15 Sebastian Pipping wrote: >> To be very clear: Please take my vote against increasing dependencies on >> Google. > > so dont use it > >> On a side note: This is not a technical discussion only. >> As such please use gen

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Google Apps Standard Edition @ gentoo.org

2010-03-31 Thread Joe Peterson
On 03/31/2010 02:28 PM, Sebastian Pipping wrote: > I am worried that if people start using say Google Docs for > collaborating on Gentoo content, everyone else is forced to use Google > Docs to participate. Gentoo could set policies that such shared resources should not be done via google calender

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Google Apps Standard Edition @ gentoo.org

2010-03-31 Thread Joe Peterson
On 03/31/2010 01:40 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> Those, like me, who have several google apps accounts (I have a personal >> business one, a personal one, and a work one) can keep accounts separate >> this way. Also, since it's the "gentoo.org" google apps account, the >> email address looks the s

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Google Apps Standard Edition @ gentoo.org

2010-03-31 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 31 March 2010 16:28:15 Sebastian Pipping wrote: > To be very clear: Please take my vote against increasing dependencies on > Google. so dont use it > On a side note: This is not a technical discussion only. > As such please use gentoo-core for this next time. Thanks. incorrect ...

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Google Apps Standard Edition @ gentoo.org

2010-03-31 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Hello, On 03/31/10 07:28, Alec Warner wrote: > Currently a number of developers have engaged Google Apps Team Edition > for gentoo.org. However Team Edition does not come with gmail and a > subset of Team Edition users would like to host their gentoo.org mail > on gmail. > Activating Standard Ed

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Google Apps Standard Edition @ gentoo.org

2010-03-31 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 31 March 2010 12:11:30 Joe Peterson wrote: > It's a "Google Apps" account, not just a Gmail account. You cannot have > more than one gmail account open in your browser at one time - the > cookies are not separate. Whereas you *can* have your gmail and all of > your google apps accoun

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Google Apps Standard Edition @ gentoo.org

2010-03-31 Thread Joe Peterson
On 03/31/2010 02:18 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > i'm already using ~/.forward which means mail still goes to mail.g.o and that > server takes care of forwarding it to my private gmail.com account. then my > mail client fetches it from gmail.com via the normal pop/imap methods. there > is no nee

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Google Apps Standard Edition @ gentoo.org

2010-03-31 Thread Ben de Groot
On 31 March 2010 07:28, Alec Warner wrote: > This thread is primarily engaged in gauging interest in such a setup. > Please reply if you are interested (or go vote on the bug.) I am definitely interested. Cheers, -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Linux Qt project lead developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Google Apps Standard Edition @ gentoo.org

2010-03-31 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 31 March 2010 02:24:24 Alec Warner wrote: > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Wednesday 31 March 2010 01:28:56 Alec Warner wrote: > >> Currently a number of developers have engaged Google Apps Team Edition > >> for gentoo.org. However Team Edition does not

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Google Apps Standard Edition @ gentoo.org

2010-03-30 Thread Alec Warner
Brian suggested I give more details, so here is more information ;) 23:36 < ferringb> antarus: why are we getting it for free offhand? 23:36 < ferringb> well, getting this moreso 23:37 < ferringb> (yes, I will look a gift horse in the mouth- it can quickly become a cash-sinkhole if the horse hasn'

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Google Apps Standard Edition @ gentoo.org

2010-03-30 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 31 March 2010 01:28:56 Alec Warner wrote: >> Currently a number of developers have engaged Google Apps Team Edition >> for gentoo.org.  However Team Edition does not come with gmail and a >> subset of Team Edition users would l

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Google Apps Standard Edition @ gentoo.org

2010-03-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 31 March 2010 01:28:56 Alec Warner wrote: > Currently a number of developers have engaged Google Apps Team Edition > for gentoo.org. However Team Edition does not come with gmail and a > subset of Team Edition users would like to host their gentoo.org mail > on gmail. > Activating Sta