Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

On 18:52 Mon 08 Jul , Pavlos Ratis wrote: > As far as I can see, opinions about VCs are 50-50. However, I don't > see any disadvantages adding video hangouts to the project. VCs _are > not_ mandatory and doesn't replace any of our current communication > methods. You are not forced to participa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

As far as I can see, opinions about VCs are 50-50. However, I don't see any disadvantages adding video hangouts to the project. VCs _are not_ mandatory and doesn't replace any of our current communication methods. You are not forced to participate. It's all about choice. If there are no objections

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

Not to mention how do you actually log a hangout for the record instead of already having logs from an irc session or mailing list. On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: > Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > > just opening a webcam and talking is just going to give an amateurish > feeling

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > just opening a webcam and talking is just going to give an amateurish feeling ..as opposed to the very professional mailing list. //Peter

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

- Original Message - > From: Michael Palimaka > > On 26/06/2013 01:09, Egg Plant wrote: >> According to Pavlos Ratis proposal, it will be another channel of > communication. I am not protesting to setup an unofficial channel there. >> >> I am fearing that it will gradually become an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/25/2013 07:57 PM, Roy Bamford wrote: > On 2013.06.23 22:30, Pavlos Ratis wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> Everyday we talk to each other about different kind of things >> related to Gentoo. IRC and MLs are the primary way of our >> communication, but

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

On 2013.06.23 22:30, Pavlos Ratis wrote: > Hello all, > > Everyday we talk to each other about different kind of things related > to Gentoo. IRC and MLs are the primary way of our communication, but > this is only a text-based communication. I think sometimes it would > be > better to escape from

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

- Original Message - > From: Michael Palimaka > > On 24/06/2013 07:30, Pavlos Ratis wrote: >>  That's why I'd like to propose Gentoo Hangouts. Gentoo Hangouts > will >>  be Google+  video Hangouts(video calls) held by teams or developers >>  independent of a team. The main goal is to ha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Tobias Klausmann wrote: > > It depends how you run it. We have teams having a video thing > open during the day with there geographically-diverse other team > members and it works well for them. For those teams, it also > improves cohesion. Geographically-diverse te

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

Hi! On Mon, 24 Jun 2013, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > I've worked on a VC system most of last year and I now go > through regular conferences... it's barely okay from a work > point of view, it takes lots of time to organize so you don't > want to do that every single day for sure. It depends how

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 09:14:44AM +0100, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > A VC is a full commitment, and its attractiveness is often much higher > _before_ you use it.. Agreed. I have found that if I am on a voice chat with someone, say on skype, it requires my full attention, especially since I use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 4:14 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > And unlike IRC meetings, you can cannot multitask, say making your dinner > while discussing this or that feature. Honestly, that bit is a two-edged sword. I was just musing with the Trustees yesterday how it seems the meetings take fo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

Pavlos, I understand what you mean, I'm just saying that organizing a real video conference takes its toil. And just opening a webcam and talking is just going to give an amateurish feeling that could be more detrimental than not. Can you please tell us if you have _any_ experience at all with VCi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Norman Rieß wrote: >> >> I do not see the benefit either, it seems like that kind of thing the PR >> department would come up with, which noone does actually like doing and >> everyone is glad when it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

On 24.06.2013 12:01, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > Alex Legler schrieb: >> On 24.06.2013 08:31, Alexander Berntsen wrote: >>> I realise that by "Gentoo is and will remain Free Software"[0], what >>> is meant is the distribution and the source code. However, I think it >>> would be a bad e

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alex Legler schrieb: > On 24.06.2013 08:31, Alexander Berntsen wrote: >> I realise that by "Gentoo is and will remain Free Software"[0], what >> is meant is the distribution and the source code. However, I think it >> would be a bad example to use pr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

On 24.06.2013 08:31, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > I realise that by "Gentoo is and will remain Free Software"[0], what > is meant is the distribution and the source code. However, I think it > would be a bad example to use proprietary software for development or > communication. So we shouldn't be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Norman Rieß wrote: > I do not see the benefit either, it seems like that kind of thing the PR > department would come up with, which noone does actually like doing and > everyone is glad when it's over and can go back to work. > I honestly wonder if Pavlos ever t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 I realise that by "Gentoo is and will remain Free Software"[0], what is meant is the distribution and the source code. However, I think it would be a bad example to use proprietary software for development or communication. [0]

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

Am 24.06.2013 00:15, schrieb Mike Gilbert: > On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Pavlos Ratis wrote: >> It would be great to have teams introduce themselves and inform users in a >> more interactive way how to contribute and answer their questions. Finally as >> I said different other topics could be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

Pavlos Ratis wrote: > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò > wrote: > > Please, let's not try to make this something either mandated or recommended. > > It is absolutely optional and it's just a proposal. > However, I think it's worth a try. I think it would be a wonderfully valu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > Please, let's not try to make this something either mandated or recommended. > It is absolutely optional and it's just a proposal. However, I think it's worth a try. Pavlos

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Pavlos Ratis wrote: > Except from a camera and a microphone requirement is a Google account and > www-client/google-talkplugin package which is already in the tree. > Or a modern smartphone with the relevant app. Personally, I have neither a camera nor mic attache

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

Please, let's not try to make this something either mandated or recommended. I have a personal dislike for video tutorials which tend to take half an hour to explain something you'd read in ten minutes. Besides, not all of the developers speak English well enough — heck some people have trouble wr