Re: [gentoo-dev] Breakage and frustration

2015-12-14 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 03:03:53PM +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote: > If I had access to things I could help. But I don't, so I can't. The scripts of the git->rsync process are already open. https://gitweb.gentoo.org/infra/mastermirror-scripts.git/ (also in there are the related scripts for the other di

Re: [gentoo-dev] Breakage and frustration

2015-12-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 12/14/2015 02:58 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 5:48 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: >> The key point to remember is that it is NOT neccessary to be part of >> the team in order to contribute solutions. You *first* contribute >> solutions and only *then* have a chance of becoming pa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Breakage and frustration

2015-12-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 5:48 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: > > The key point to remember is that it is NOT neccessary to be part of > the team in order to contribute solutions. You *first* contribute > solutions and only *then* have a chance of becoming part of the team. > > I for one am working in my no

Re: [gentoo-dev] Breakage and frustration

2015-12-14 Thread Peter Stuge
Rich Freeman wrote: > a big question is how to make it happen without just throwing > complaints on the folks who are trying their best to keep it all going. The answer to this is the same as it has always been: Demonstrate that you are capable and reliable and given social compatibility then aft

Re: [gentoo-dev] Breakage and frustration

2015-12-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Patrick Lauer wrote: > In the long run I am considering just creating my own clone of all > infrastructure bits so I can fix things I just wanted to comment that things like this should never be viewed as a bad thing. Many contributions to Gentoo arose because s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Breakage and frustration

2015-12-13 Thread Robin H. Johnson
TL;DR summary: Yes, stuff has broken, but I'd call them reasonable teething issues well distributed through the stack, and to be compared to the CVS server moves from a decade ago, rather than CVS just before the Git switch. On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 06:36:41PM +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote: ... (mail

Re: [gentoo-dev] Breakage and frustration

2015-12-13 Thread Sergei Trofimovich
On Sun, 13 Dec 2015 18:36:41 +0100 Patrick Lauer wrote: > Broken breakage > > > tl;dr: Stuff is broken, and no one seems to care > ... > [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=557184 RESOLVED > [2] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=557192 RESOLVED > [3] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_b