Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-17 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2007.07.13 18:12, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 08:34 +0200, Christian Faulhammer wrote: > > Mike Doty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > We're voting on this next council meeting so if you have input, > now > > > would be the time. > > > > Really, I don't like the idea...the li

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-17 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:11:19 Duncan wrote: > Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > excerpted below, on Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:01:53 -0600: > > Why don't we create the gentoo-project mailing > > list, and, you know, actually wait a bit to see how that actually goes. > > Then we

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-17 Thread Wernfried Haas
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 12:22:09AM +0200, Torsten Veller wrote: > What will you do when users start sending mail from dev addresses? Ban the sender's address :-] cheers, Wernfried -- Wernfried Haas (amne) - amne (at) gentoo.org Gentoo Forums - http://forums.gentoo.org forum-mods (at) ge

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-16 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Torsten Veller wrote: * Mike Doty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: We're going to change the -dev mailing list from completely open to where only devs can post, but any dev could moderate a non-dev post. What will you do when users start sending mail from dev addresses? There's nothing to prevent that n

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-16 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2007-07-16 at 13:34 +0100, Steve Long wrote: > Are you really claiming that Gentoo could possibly function as an > organisation without the users? Who ever said that? Please don't read your own whatever into what is being said. I know I, for one, don't really care what your opinion is on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-16 Thread Thomas Tuttle
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:49:23 +0200, "Jakub Moc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > __ __ _ > |__ / _ \| \/ |/ ___| | > / / | | | |\/| | | _| | > / /| |_| | | | | |_| |_| > /\___/|_| |_|\(_) > > Anyone tell me how can I get rid of this junk in my mailbox? Where's the > d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-16 Thread Jakub Moc
__ __ _ |__ / _ \| \/ |/ ___| | / / | | | |\/| | | _| | / /| |_| | | | | |_| |_| /\___/|_| |_|\(_) Anyone tell me how can I get rid of this junk in my mailbox? Where's the damned -announce list? Please, stop feeding this kind of debates down everyone's throat. :

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-16 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:34:31 +0100 Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It also happens that bugs are reported, and patches provided, by > users. Not to mention documentation written, support provided on irc > and in forums, which are the envy of every OS out there. Oh and the > small matter of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-16 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
Hello Steve! On Monday, 16. July 2007 18:17:00 Steve Long wrote: > Sure, but since you're only doing exactly what you want, when you want, > why do you guys keep bleating about how much work you have, and what > extravagant demands us lusers make on you? Now, now. You're a nice guy on IRC so what

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-16 Thread Alin Năstac
Steve Long wrote: > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > >> Matthias Langer wrote: >> >>> no offense, but this is one of the worst proposals i've ever read on >>> this list; why? because, one of gentoo's major problems is that it is >>> becoming more and more a toy exclusively for its own developers.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-15 Thread Kumba
Duncan wrote: I like the "gentoo-project" (yes, that's better than politics) idea as well, and believe it /could/ solve the problem here, given a couple conditions are met. One, -project is not to be required reading for devs as -dev is. Devs (and others) can ignore it if they wish. Two,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-14 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 10:16:36 -0600 Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Christina Fullam wrote: > > I think everyone is overlooking the part included previously: > > "An additional method discussed was to have all non-dev emails on a > > timeout, pick a number of hours, and then the email if not

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-14 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Sat, 2007-07-14 at 10:25 -0700, Josh Saddler wrote: > William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > -core Internal Private List, Public R/O after period of time > > -core Internal Private List, Public R/O after period of time > > No. -core should not ever be public. It's not for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-14 Thread Josh Saddler
William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > -core Internal Private List, Public R/O after period of time > -core Internal Private List, Public R/O after period of time No. -core should not ever be public. It's not for development anyway. -core contains things like personal issues the developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-14 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Sat, 2007-07-14 at 10:16 -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: > > so all > you've done is made posts from non-dev accounts time delayed. Why? Time delayed -dev doesn't make sense for anyone. IMHO this makes sense. -core Internal Private List, Public R/O after period of time -devInter

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-13 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:12:27 -0700 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am so waiting for my term to end on the Council so I can procmail > this list to /dev/null and never have to deal with this sort of crap > again. Sure, I'll miss some important information, but the signal to > noise

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-13 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 08:34 +0200, Christian Faulhammer wrote: > Mike Doty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > We're voting on this next council meeting so if you have input, now > > would be the time. > > Really, I don't like the idea...the list has been calm for some time > now, the discussions were le

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-12 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 00:55 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote: > Mike Doty wrote: > > We're going to change the -dev mailing list from completely open to where > > only devs can post, > > Restricting freedom to post is like setting up surveilance and censorship > against terrorism. No, it is nothing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ML changes

2007-07-12 Thread Luca Barbato
Tiziano Müller wrote: > Let's go for censorship! Let's vote for gagging those users who don't > have any idea of development and those ex-devs who think they still have > anything to say. Yawn... > > And to give that comment a technical side: > - Do you think that any dev will regularly check fo