Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-06 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Sat, 2007-08-04 at 09:08 +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: > On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 14:28:26 -0700 > Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > We disabled it to try to get the size of the x86/amd64 LiveCDs down. > > Thanks. I knew there had to be some reason for it, but couldn't > > remembe

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-06 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Sat, 2007-08-04 at 04:31 +, Luis Medinas wrote: > Of course you don't need to build all gnome for the livecd and i bet Umm... yes, we do. Remember that an offline install requires the packages to exist on the LiveCD. If we did only half of GNOME, nobody could install GNOME. The problem i

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-04 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: Le samedi 04 août 2007 à 16:23 -0500, Andrew Gaffney a écrit : The LiveCD is intended to replace the separate GRP and universal CDs when combined with the installer. The installer uses the packages installed on the CD to do the new install. I'm not sure how many

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-04 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Le samedi 04 août 2007 à 16:23 -0500, Andrew Gaffney a écrit : > The LiveCD is intended to replace the separate GRP and universal CDs when > combined with the installer. The installer uses the packages installed on the > CD > to do the new install. I'm not sure how many times this has been broug

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-04 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: Le samedi 04 août 2007 à 09:08 +0300, Samuli Suominen a écrit : On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 14:28:26 -0700 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We disabled it to try to get the size of the x86/amd64 LiveCDs down. Thanks. I knew there had to be some reason for i

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-04 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Samuli Suominen wrote: On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 14:28:26 -0700 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We disabled it to try to get the size of the x86/amd64 LiveCDs down. Thanks. I knew there had to be some reason for it, but couldn't remember what it was off the top of my head. Luckily, thi

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-04 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Luis Medinas wrote: On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 14:28 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote: Thanks. I knew there had to be some reason for it, but couldn't remember what it was off the top of my head. Luckily, this won't be much of an issue with the next release, since we're switching to Xfce rather than G

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-04 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Le samedi 04 août 2007 à 09:08 +0300, Samuli Suominen a écrit : > On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 14:28:26 -0700 > Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > We disabled it to try to get the size of the x86/amd64 LiveCDs down. > > Thanks. I knew there had to be some reason for it, but couldn't > > r

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-03 Thread Samuli Suominen
On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 14:28:26 -0700 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We disabled it to try to get the size of the x86/amd64 LiveCDs down. > Thanks. I knew there had to be some reason for it, but couldn't > remember what it was off the top of my head. Luckily, this won't be > much o

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-03 Thread Luis Medinas
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 14:28 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > Thanks. I knew there had to be some reason for it, but couldn't > remember what it was off the top of my head. Luckily, this won't be > much of an issue with the next release, since we're switching to Xfce > rather than GNOME to bring t

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-03 Thread Roy Marples
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 16:18 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 23:39 +0100, Roy Marples wrote: > > Pretty please for ext4 for the ricers that just *have* to try it and > > need to recover their systems. It's a good ask as it is *in* the kernel > > even if marked experimental. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-03 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 23:39 +0100, Roy Marples wrote: > On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 14:28 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > Of course, the LiveDVD > > will have everything on it, as it does now. > > > > Pretty please for ext4 for the ricers that just *have* to try it and > need to recover their syste

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-03 Thread Roy Marples
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 14:28 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > Of course, the LiveDVD > will have everything on it, as it does now. Pretty please for ext4 for the ricers that just *have* to try it and need to recover their systems. It's a good ask as it is *in* the kernel even if marked experiment

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-03 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 14:56 -0500, Andrew Gaffney wrote: > Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 18:53 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > >> Chris Gianelloni wrote: > >>> On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 11:27 +0200, Martin Schwier wrote: > +ppds (everyone has a printer, and this is needed

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-03 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 18:53 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 11:27 +0200, Martin Schwier wrote: +ppds (everyone has a printer, and this is needed to configure it without further investigations. cups is already in) +startup

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-03 Thread Petteri Räty
Chris Gianelloni kirjoitti: > > One thing to remember, I do *not* consider our desktop profiles to be > "opt-in" but rather to be a good out-of-box experience for the user. If > you want to think of the desktop profiles as bloated, feel free to use > the versioned profile (like 2007.0) instead, a

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-03 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 09:09 +0200, Rémi Cardona wrote: > Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 11:27 +0200, Martin Schwier wrote: > >> +startup-notification > > Actually, rereading that list, I wouldn't mind adding this one. Gnome > and a couple of core Gnome apps hard-depend on it, as

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-03 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 18:53 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 11:27 +0200, Martin Schwier wrote: > >> +ppds (everyone has a printer, and this is needed to configure it > >> without further investigations. cups is already in) > >> +startup-notific

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-03 Thread Rémi Cardona
Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 11:27 +0200, Martin Schwier wrote: >> +startup-notification Actually, rereading that list, I wouldn't mind adding this one. Gnome and a couple of core Gnome apps hard-depend on it, as I am must sure must be the case in KDE. Samuli also told me that

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 11:27 +0200, Martin Schwier wrote: >> +ppds (everyone has a printer, and this is needed to configure it >> without further investigations. cups is already in) >> +startup-notification > > Well, we don't add local USE flags to the default profile

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-02 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 11:27 +0200, Martin Schwier wrote: > So, these are my proposed changes for the default desktop profile: > > +bash-completion > +bluetooth > +ffmpeg(totem isn't much without it) > +libnotify (gives very nice popup notifications in many programs instead > of an annoying, wo

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 02 August 2007, Martin Schwier wrote: > today I posted a bug (187475) about a minor issue about the useflag > libnotify not beeing in the default desktop profile. Me was told that > this sould be discussed on gentoo-dev. I can't really understand why > such a minor issue have to be disc

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-02 Thread Kent Fredric
On 8/2/07, Martin Schwier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello developers, > > today I posted a bug (187475) about a minor issue about the useflag > libnotify not beeing in the default desktop profile. Me was told that > this sould be discussed on gentoo-dev. I can't really understand why > such a mi

Re: [gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-02 Thread Rémi Cardona
Martin Schwier wrote: > To come to the bug, I'll comment Jakub Moc's last comment: > >> As said above - bloating default profiles even more goes to gentoo-dev >> mailing >> list, so that people could comment. I for one am already annoyed enough by >> the >> nonsense being added there, such as US

[gentoo-dev] default desktop profile

2007-08-02 Thread Martin Schwier
Hello developers, today I posted a bug (187475) about a minor issue about the useflag libnotify not beeing in the default desktop profile. Me was told that this sould be discussed on gentoo-dev. I can't really understand why such a minor issue have to be discussed among all developers as there are