Re: Two-level USE-flag system VAR: [gentoo-dev] USE="minimal" for kernel sources

2005-09-23 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 22:28:35 +0200 Tom Fredrik Blenning Klaussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now as for the USE flag system. It has actually become so big > that it's difficult to use it effectively. I would actually > suggest that a two level system of USE flags could be employed. > Something li

Re: Two-level USE-flag system VAR: [gentoo-dev] USE="minimal" for kernel sources

2005-09-22 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Friday 23 September 2005 05:28, Tom Fredrik Blenning Klaussen wrote: > Now as for the USE flag system. It has actually become so big that it's > difficult to use it effectively. I would actually suggest that a two > level system of USE flags could be employed. Something like > wtk/gtk (Windowing

Re: Two-level USE-flag system VAR: [gentoo-dev] USE="minimal" for kernel sources

2005-09-22 Thread warnera6
Tom Fredrik Blenning Klaussen wrote: > The average gentoo users are not stupid. Many people would not agree with that statement ;) come so far as to adjust something beyond the most basic USE flags at all, you're probably advanced enough to deciphre such a message. (It would be nice to have som

Two-level USE-flag system VAR: [gentoo-dev] USE="minimal" for kernel sources

2005-09-22 Thread Tom Fredrik Blenning Klaussen
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 18:07 -0400, Alec Warner wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Tom Fredrik Blenning Klaussen wrote: > > On Thu, 2005-09-08 at 20:01 +0100, John Mylchreest wrote: > > > >>For the record, there is a bug open for this. (#64009) > >>Personally, I'm not kee

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE="minimal" for kernel sources

2005-09-21 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Fredrik Blenning Klaussen wrote: > On Thu, 2005-09-08 at 20:01 +0100, John Mylchreest wrote: > >>For the record, there is a bug open for this. (#64009) >>Personally, I'm not keen on the idea. >>the only way which we can do this is by detecting whi

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE="minimal" for kernel sources

2005-09-21 Thread Tom Fredrik Blenning Klaussen
On Thu, 2005-09-08 at 20:01 +0100, John Mylchreest wrote: > For the record, there is a bug open for this. (#64009) > Personally, I'm not keen on the idea. > the only way which we can do this is by detecting which arch we are > installing the sources, for, which immediately means many installs of >

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE="minimal" for kernel sources

2005-09-10 Thread Jan Kundrát
John Mylchreest wrote: > In general, there is no obvious technical reason against individual > installs differing from one another, however from a support and QA point > of view it makes it a much less trivial issue. Well, I was talking about <10 variants (one for each supported arch), but iggy's

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE="minimal" for kernel sources

2005-09-09 Thread Alec Warner
Petteri Räty wrote: warnera6 wrote: IMHO it is, but not as a USE flag (it will never be stable enough without upstream support) but I think many would find the functionality useful in a script. I know I would. If it works most of the time and saves space, there is no reason not trim things

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE="minimal" for kernel sources

2005-09-09 Thread Petteri Räty
warnera6 wrote: > > IMHO it is, but not as a USE flag (it will never be stable enough > without upstream support) but I think many would find the functionality > useful in a script. I know I would. If it works most of the time and > saves space, there is no reason not trim things. If it breaks,

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE="minimal" for kernel sources

2005-09-08 Thread warnera6
Greg KH wrote: On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 10:49:04PM +0100, twofourtysix wrote: On 05/09/05, Petteri R?ty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a couple of old machines I maintain and emerging and unmerging kernel sources take a while because there are so many files. Also one set of gentoo sources t

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE="minimal" for kernel sources

2005-09-08 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 10:49:04PM +0100, twofourtysix wrote: > On 05/09/05, Petteri R?ty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have a couple of old machines I maintain and emerging and unmerging > > kernel sources take a while because there are so many files. Also one > > set of gentoo sources takes ab

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE="minimal" for kernel sources

2005-09-08 Thread twofourtysix
On 05/09/05, Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a couple of old machines I maintain and emerging and unmerging > kernel sources take a while because there are so many files. Also one > set of gentoo sources takes about 230MB of disk space. By removing stuff > not belonging to x86 I wa

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE="minimal" for kernel sources

2005-09-08 Thread John Mylchreest
On Thu, 2005-09-08 at 22:14 +0200, Jan Kundrát wrote: > Er, but why is this a problem? Does it matter that the package will > install different files on x86 than on mips? Or am I just overlooking > the point? In general, there is no obvious technical reason against individual installs differing f

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE="minimal" for kernel sources

2005-09-08 Thread Brian Jackson
At one time we had a problem with gentoo sources having way too many use flags and patches which lead to there being an incalculable number of ways that gentoo -sources could turn out. It was a pita to maintain. A pita to troubleshoot. There were weird bugs that we couldn't reproduce easily. Bas

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE="minimal" for kernel sources

2005-09-08 Thread Jan Kundrát
John Mylchreest wrote: > For the record, there is a bug open for this. (#64009) > Personally, I'm not keen on the idea. > the only way which we can do this is by detecting which arch we are > installing the sources, for, which immediately means many installs of > USE=minimal are not the same. Er,

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE="minimal" for kernel sources

2005-09-08 Thread John Mylchreest
For the record, there is a bug open for this. (#64009) Personally, I'm not keen on the idea. the only way which we can do this is by detecting which arch we are installing the sources, for, which immediately means many installs of USE=minimal are not the same. There are plenty of other reasons I c

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE="minimal" for kernel sources

2005-09-08 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Thursday 08 September 2005 20:10, solar wrote: > Perhaps you can simply just take advantage of tar's > --exclude=/-e options in the unpack() function of ebuild.sh when > USERLAND == GNU tar --exclude/-e is supported by both bsdtar and gtar. -- Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò Gentoo Developer - http

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE="minimal" for kernel sources

2005-09-08 Thread solar
On Mon, 2005-09-05 at 22:08 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I have a couple of old machines I maintain and emerging and unmerging > kernel sources take a while because there are so many files. Also one > set of gentoo sources takes about 230MB of di

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE="minimal" for kernel sources

2005-09-05 Thread Petteri Räty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Hanselmann wrote: > Hello > > The idea isn't too bad, but if you implement it, please do it in a cross > plattform compatible way, not x86-only. Well I didn't explain the implementation, but of course I would myself only add the implementatio

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE="minimal" for kernel sources

2005-09-05 Thread Michael Hanselmann
Hello > The stuff I removed: > arch/* except i386 and x86_64 > include/asm-* expect asm-generic, asm-i386 and asm-x86_64 > So I propose we implement a minimal USE flag in the kernel-2 eclass that > would make the cleaning [...| The idea isn't too bad, but if you implement it, please do it in a c

[gentoo-dev] USE="minimal" for kernel sources

2005-09-05 Thread Petteri Räty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have a couple of old machines I maintain and emerging and unmerging kernel sources take a while because there are so many files. Also one set of gentoo sources takes about 230MB of disk space. By removing stuff not belonging to x86 I was able to succ