[gentoo-dev] Re: Disabling locale at emerge output

2011-04-28 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:00:23 +0200 Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 21:10:55 -0600 > Ryan Hill wrote: > > See, you're thinking primarily in terms of bugzilla. Like the only > > reason someone would want to see this stuff is to paste it to a bug > > report for a developer to look at

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Disabling locale at emerge output

2011-04-28 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 21:10:55 -0600 Ryan Hill wrote: > I _am_ arguing for non-English user's rights. That's the whole > reason I'm here, annoying you and whatnot. Great, now we're getting somewhere. > See, you're thinking primarily in terms of bugzilla. Like the only > reason someone would wan

[gentoo-dev] Re: Disabling locale at emerge output

2011-04-27 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:26:02 +0200 Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 02:47:46 -0600 > Ryan Hill wrote: > > > > Are you saying you are setting up the tree-wide project that > > > automatically translates LC_MESSAGES? Round of applause! > > > > Nope, but I am raising donations to fund

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Disabling locale at emerge output

2011-04-27 Thread ross smith
2011/4/27 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn > Jeroen Roovers schrieb: > > Look here, I am even willing to argue on your side just to possibly > > extract a meaningful objection to fixing LC_MESSAGES in > > sys-apps/portage. > > I now tend to agree that LC_MESSAGES should be set to C by default. > Howe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Disabling locale at emerge output

2011-04-27 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Jeroen Roovers schrieb: > Look here, I am even willing to argue on your side just to possibly > extract a meaningful objection to fixing LC_MESSAGES in > sys-apps/portage. I now tend to agree that LC_MESSAGES should be set to C by default. However I suggest to put it in the default make.conf, toge

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Disabling locale at emerge output

2011-04-27 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 02:47:46 -0600 Ryan Hill wrote: > > Are you saying you are setting up the tree-wide project that > > automatically translates LC_MESSAGES? Round of applause! > > Nope, but I am raising donations to fund an instructive manual on the > usage of the NEEDINFO resolution. As alre

[gentoo-dev] Re: Disabling locale at emerge output

2011-04-27 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 06:02:37 +0200 Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:05:03 -0600 > Ryan Hill wrote: > > > You want to force English on all our users because you can't be > > bothered to ask a reporter to repost an error message using LC_ALL=C? > > Are you saying you are setting up

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Disabling locale at emerge output

2011-04-25 Thread Michał Górny
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 06:02:37 +0200 Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:05:03 -0600 > Ryan Hill wrote: > > > You want to force English on all our users because you can't be > > bothered to ask a reporter to repost an error message using > > LC_ALL=C? > > Are you saying you are settin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Disabling locale at emerge output

2011-04-25 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:05:03 -0600 Ryan Hill wrote: > You want to force English on all our users because you can't be > bothered to ask a reporter to repost an error message using LC_ALL=C? Are you saying you are setting up the tree-wide project that automatically translates LC_MESSAGES? Round o

[gentoo-dev] Re: Disabling locale at emerge output

2011-04-25 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:57:06 +0200 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > Alternatively, portage could alert the user to submit bug reports only > with a C or English locale if a different one is detected. +1 -- fonts, gcc-porting, it makes no sense how it makes no sense toolc

[gentoo-dev] Re: Disabling locale at emerge output

2011-04-25 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 13:31:30 +0200 Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > I am quite getting annoyed by bugzilla attached outputs in various > interesting languages like Portugalese or French. I can read Russian so > that is at least bit ok :) > > I can

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Disabling locale at emerge output

2011-04-25 Thread ragavender rao
Is there any command or way to directly read the pages in native language in bugzilla?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Disabling locale at emerge output

2011-04-25 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 08:14:28 +0200 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Mon, 25 Apr 2011, Serkan Kaba wrote: > > > On 25-04-2011 00:55, Duncan wrote: > >> 1) FEATURES=locale would be off by default, so portage would build > >> with POSIX locale by default. > > Will this feature effect the whole buil

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Disabling locale at emerge output

2011-04-24 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Mon, 25 Apr 2011, Serkan Kaba wrote: > On 25-04-2011 00:55, Duncan wrote: >> 1) FEATURES=locale would be off by default, so portage would build >> with POSIX locale by default. > Will this feature effect the whole build process? This might cause > locale dependent bugs (such as difference

[gentoo-dev] Re: Disabling locale at emerge output

2011-04-24 Thread Duncan
Jeroen Roovers posted on Mon, 25 Apr 2011 03:57:30 +0200 as excerpted: > In my opinion, what we should do instead is acknowledge the policy > that's been in place all along, that is to require build logs with > "universally" appreciated error messages, and reinforce that policy > using technical m

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Disabling locale at emerge output

2011-04-24 Thread Serkan Kaba
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25-04-2011 00:55, Duncan wrote: > 1) FEATURES=locale would be off by default, so portage would build with > POSIX locale by default. Will this feature effect the whole build process? This might cause locale dependent bugs (such as difference of ca

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Disabling locale at emerge output

2011-04-24 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 21:55:13 + (UTC) Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > The odds should be /vastly/ improved. Oh, you want to wrangle bugs too? How fast can you type "Please post your `emerge --info' output too."? :) > 1) FEATURES=locale would be off by default, so portage would build >

[gentoo-dev] Re: Disabling locale at emerge output

2011-04-24 Thread Duncan
Jeroen Roovers posted on Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:48:53 +0200 as excerpted: > On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 19:53:36 +0200 "Andreas K. Huettel" > wrote: > > >> How about a portage "feature" that is off by default? Like, "locale" >> meaning "build with locale"? > > You mean we should settle for only slightly