Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

2018-03-03 Thread Geaaru
Hi, +1 for dev-python/ipcalc I will update my issue as proxy maintainer for this if is ok. Bye On Mar 3, 2018 08:38, "Johann Schmitz (ercpe)" wrote: > Hi, > > due to my retirement, the following packages need a new maintainer: > > dev-java/boilerpipe > dev-libs/grok > dev-python/cfgio > dev-p

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

2018-03-02 Thread Johann Schmitz (ercpe)
Hi, due to my retirement, the following packages need a new maintainer: dev-java/boilerpipe dev-libs/grok dev-python/cfgio dev-python/disqus-python dev-python/django-openid-auth dev-python/django-opensearch dev-python/django-otp dev-python/django-otp-yubikey dev-python/django-phonenumber-field de

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-17 Thread Sam Jorna
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 04:45:39AM -0800, Daniel Campbell wrote: > On 01/06/2017 12:46 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > On Friday, January 6, 2017 9:14:54 AM EST Alec Warner wrote: > >> > >> The nice thing about ::graveyard or similar is that its a clear demarcation > >> between maintained (in

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-17 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 01/06/2017 12:46 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Friday, January 6, 2017 9:14:54 AM EST Alec Warner wrote: >> >> The nice thing about ::graveyard or similar is that its a clear demarcation >> between maintained (in tree) and unmaintained (graveyard.) It also means >> that people doing act

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-06 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 06/01/17 17:14, Alec Warner wrote: > > Treecleaning to me is really two things: > > 1) developer maintenance time. > a) It costs nothing to add packages to the tree, and the tree grows > in size every year. > b) Removals occur due to obsolescence (X replaces Y, etc) but these > are strictly le

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-06 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 06/01/17 15:01, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 11:27 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: >> If packages had a field called "BUGS=" it could contain an array of >> bugs a package is known to contain, but can be conditionally avoided if >> you're careful. >> >> Packages with non-empty BUGS= fie

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-06 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 06/01/17 04:27, Kent Fredric wrote: > On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 10:23:02 -0500 > Rich Freeman wrote: > >> I tend to be firmly in the camp that a package shouldn't be removed >> unless there is evidence of a serious bug (and that includes things >> blocking other Gentoo packages). > I would probably go

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-06 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Friday, January 6, 2017 9:13:20 AM EST Michael Mol wrote: > > The bigger resource drain, I suspect, will come from maintaining new ebuilds > of old packages; as eclass development and maintenance seeks to eliminate > old and buggy code, old ebuilds will need to be dragged along for the ride. Th

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-06 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Friday, January 6, 2017 9:14:54 AM EST Alec Warner wrote: > > The nice thing about ::graveyard or similar is that its a clear demarcation > between maintained (in tree) and unmaintained (graveyard.) It also means > that people doing actual maintenance work can basically ignore the > graveyard as

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Alec Warner wrote: > > So my understanding of the status quo is that maintainers get to make the > call with regard to what is reasonable to keep or drop. I'm loathe to add > additional policy here; mostly because the expectation is that the > maintainer has the mo

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-06 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 8:27 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: > On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 10:23:02 -0500 > Rich Freeman wrote: > > > I tend to be firmly in the camp that a package shouldn't be removed > > unless there is evidence of a serious bug (and that includes things > > blocking other Gentoo packages). > >

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 11:27 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: > > If packages had a field called "BUGS=" it could contain an array of > bugs a package is known to contain, but can be conditionally avoided if > you're careful. > > Packages with non-empty BUGS= fields would be treated as hard-masked > for th

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-06 Thread Michael Mol
On Friday, January 6, 2017 5:27:24 PM EST Kent Fredric wrote: > On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 10:23:02 -0500 > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > I tend to be firmly in the camp that a package shouldn't be removed > > unless there is evidence of a serious bug (and that includes things > > blocking other Gentoo packa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

2017-01-06 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, N, 05.01.2017 kell 22:00, kirjutas Daniel Campbell: > I'm in favor of keeping software around until it breaks. When there's > a > non-existent upstream and nobody's willing to take up the helm > themselves, it's a clear indication that it's in danger of being > treecleaned. In so

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

2017-01-05 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 01/03/2017 06:31 AM, M. J. Everitt wrote: > On 03/01/17 11:05, Michał Górny wrote: >> On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 16:00:52 +0700 (+07) >> gro...@gentoo.org wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, Brian Evans wrote: IMO, this one should be given last-rites as upstream is dead and it heavily depends on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

2017-01-05 Thread Kent Fredric
On Wed, 04 Jan 2017 05:11:18 +0200 Mart Raudsepp wrote: > I believe with this mgorny has given ample proof that he is just a > ciaranm sock puppet account. One neat trick is to have *two* sock puppet accounts, and then have one accuse the other of being a sock puppet, which typically leads peop

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-05 Thread Kent Fredric
On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 10:23:02 -0500 Rich Freeman wrote: > I tend to be firmly in the camp that a package shouldn't be removed > unless there is evidence of a serious bug (and that includes things > blocking other Gentoo packages). I would probably go further and extend that argument to older versi

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-04 Thread Thomas Kahle
On 03/01/2017 15:24, Damien LEVAC wrote: > > > On 01/03/2017 09:14 AM, Michael Mol wrote: >> On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 12:05:10 PM EST Michał Górny wrote: >>> On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 16:00:52 +0700 (+07) >>> >>> gro...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, Brian Evans wrote: > IMO, this o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

2017-01-03 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, T, 03.01.2017 kell 09:34, kirjutas Damien LEVAC: > > On 01/03/2017 09:31 AM, M. J. Everitt wrote: > > > > On 03/01/17 11:05, Michał Górny wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 16:00:52 +0700 (+07) > > > gro...@gentoo.org wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, Brian

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-03 Thread Matthew Thode
On 01/03/2017 09:10 AM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 01/03/2017 03:57 PM, Michael Mol wrote: >> For security's sake, even mature software needs, at minimum, routine >> auditing. >> Unless someone's doing that work, the package should be considered for >> removal. (Call that reason # π, in h

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-03 Thread Matthew Thode
On 01/03/2017 09:11 AM, Damien LEVAC wrote: > But routine auditing, while being wishful thinking in the open-source > world (even when the projects are alive), are not meant to find those > kind of bugs anyway (and wouldn't be effective at doing so either). > I think it's wishful thinking in ever

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-03 Thread james
On 01/03/2017 10:41 AM, Alice Ferrazzi wrote: On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 12:23 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Michael Mol wrote: For security's sake, even mature software needs, at minimum, routine auditing. Unless someone's doing that work, the package should be conside

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 11:09 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > > Ideas like this is one reason I'm looking for a corpus of pros and cons for > treecleaning. I don't see it as black and white. But having ideas like these > brought up is at least useful. > Sure, and almost any rule has its exceptions. My t

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-03 Thread Michael Mol
On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 10:23:02 AM EST Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > > For security's sake, even mature software needs, at minimum, routine > > auditing. Unless someone's doing that work, the package should be > > considered for removal. (Call that

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-03 Thread Alice Ferrazzi
On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 12:23 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Michael Mol wrote: >> >> For security's sake, even mature software needs, at minimum, routine >> auditing. >> Unless someone's doing that work, the package should be considered for >> removal. (Call that reaso

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > > For security's sake, even mature software needs, at minimum, routine auditing. > Unless someone's doing that work, the package should be considered for > removal. (Call that reason #π, in honor of TeX.) > Are you suggesting that we should

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-03 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 03/01/17 14:57, Michael Mol wrote: > On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 9:24:19 AM EST Damien LEVAC wrote: >> On 01/03/2017 09:14 AM, Michael Mol wrote: >>> On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 12:05:10 PM EST Michał Górny wrote: On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 16:00:52 +0700 (+07) gro...@gentoo.org wrote: >>

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-03 Thread Damien LEVAC
On 01/03/2017 09:57 AM, Michael Mol wrote: On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 9:24:19 AM EST Damien LEVAC wrote: On 01/03/2017 09:14 AM, Michael Mol wrote: On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 12:05:10 PM EST Michał Górny wrote: On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 16:00:52 +0700 (+07) gro...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, 2 Ja

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-03 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 01/03/2017 03:57 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > For security's sake, even mature software needs, at minimum, routine > auditing. > Unless someone's doing that work, the package should be considered for > removal. (Call that reason # π, in honor of TeX.) A distinction here likely needs to be made

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-03 Thread Michael Mol
On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 9:24:19 AM EST Damien LEVAC wrote: > On 01/03/2017 09:14 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > > On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 12:05:10 PM EST Michał Górny wrote: > >> On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 16:00:52 +0700 (+07) > >> > >> gro...@gentoo.org wrote: > >>> On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, Brian Evans wrot

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

2017-01-03 Thread Damien LEVAC
On 01/03/2017 09:31 AM, M. J. Everitt wrote: On 03/01/17 11:05, Michał Górny wrote: On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 16:00:52 +0700 (+07) gro...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, Brian Evans wrote: IMO, this one should be given last-rites as upstream is dead and it heavily depends on wireless-tools a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

2017-01-03 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 03/01/17 11:05, Michał Górny wrote: > On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 16:00:52 +0700 (+07) > gro...@gentoo.org wrote: > >> On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, Brian Evans wrote: >>> IMO, this one should be given last-rites as upstream is dead and it >>> heavily depends on wireless-tools and WEXT. >> I use it on 2 notebook

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-03 Thread Damien LEVAC
On 01/03/2017 09:14 AM, Michael Mol wrote: On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 12:05:10 PM EST Michał Górny wrote: On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 16:00:52 +0700 (+07) gro...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, Brian Evans wrote: IMO, this one should be given last-rites as upstream is dead and it heavily depe

Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-03 Thread Michael Mol
On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 12:05:10 PM EST Michał Górny wrote: > On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 16:00:52 +0700 (+07) > > gro...@gentoo.org wrote: > > On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, Brian Evans wrote: > > > IMO, this one should be given last-rites as upstream is dead and it > > > heavily depends on wireless-tools and WE

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

2017-01-03 Thread Lars Wendler
Hi, On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 16:00:52 +0700 (+07) gro...@gentoo.org wrote: >On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, Brian Evans wrote: >> IMO, this one should be given last-rites as upstream is dead and it >> heavily depends on wireless-tools and WEXT. this is plain wrong. Upstream is not dead, just not very active any

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

2017-01-03 Thread Michał Górny
On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 16:00:52 +0700 (+07) gro...@gentoo.org wrote: > On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, Brian Evans wrote: > > IMO, this one should be given last-rites as upstream is dead and it > > heavily depends on wireless-tools and WEXT. > I use it on 2 notebooks. It works fine, and is (from my point of vie

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

2017-01-03 Thread grozin
On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, Brian Evans wrote: IMO, this one should be given last-rites as upstream is dead and it heavily depends on wireless-tools and WEXT. I use it on 2 notebooks. It works fine, and is (from my point of view) the most convenient tool to control ethernet and wifi connections on a no

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

2017-01-02 Thread Brian Evans
On 01/01/2017 12:16 PM, Lars Wendler wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 22:54:28 +0100 Thomas Kahle wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I will retire, so here are my remaining packages. > > Sad day seeing another dev leaving :-( > >> net-misc/wicd > > I can take this one if nobody else is interest

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

2017-01-01 Thread Lars Wendler
Hi Thomas, On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 22:54:28 +0100 Thomas Kahle wrote: >Hi, > >I will retire, so here are my remaining packages. Sad day seeing another dev leaving :-( >net-misc/wicd I can take this one if nobody else is interested in it. >Cheers, >Thomas > > I wish you all the best and if you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

2017-01-01 Thread James Le Cuirot
On Sun, 1 Jan 2017 10:42:51 +0100 Thomas Kahle wrote: > On 01/01/2017 00:00, James Le Cuirot wrote: > > On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 22:54:28 +0100 > > Thomas Kahle wrote: > > > >> I will retire > > > > Sorry to hear that. :( > > > >> app-text/tesseract > > > > I maintain media-libs/leptonica

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

2017-01-01 Thread Thomas Kahle
On 01/01/2017 00:00, James Le Cuirot wrote: > On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 22:54:28 +0100 > Thomas Kahle wrote: > >> I will retire > > Sorry to hear that. :( > >> app-text/tesseract > > I maintain media-libs/leptonica, which is primarily in the tree because > of Tesseract. I don't use Tesseract myself

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

2016-12-31 Thread James Le Cuirot
On Sat, 31 Dec 2016 22:54:28 +0100 Thomas Kahle wrote: > I will retire Sorry to hear that. :( > app-text/tesseract I maintain media-libs/leptonica, which is primarily in the tree because of Tesseract. I don't use Tesseract myself though and it's not a trivial package to maintain so I'd rather

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement

2016-12-31 Thread Thomas Kahle
Hi, I will retire, so here are my remaining packages. Feel free to e-mail me any questions re this. sci-math is in CC because there are quite a few math packages. app-emacs/undo-tree app-misc/anki app-portage/tatt app-text/tesseract app-text/pdfsandwich dev-cpp/gtest dev-python/python-wpactrl d