Re: [gentoo-dev] Keywording, for the umpteenth time

2005-05-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Cummings wrote: > It's a nice idea (I know I recently opened "negotiations" up with the mips > team for access so I could close some of my open bugs against them), but the > two problems I can see with this are: remote access tends to mean yo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keywording, for the umpteenth time

2005-05-20 Thread Tom Wesley
On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 22:22 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Not gonna happen. Emulators don't cut it and won't find all the problems > (but they will find a load of other bogus non-issues). Plus, from > experience I'd say that at least half our devs wouldn't have a clue > where to start when doing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keywording, for the umpteenth time

2005-05-20 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 20 May 2005 15:51:51 -0500 Brian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Wouldn't it be better from a QA perspective to go back to the (really) | old policy of dropping anything you can't test on. I know that puts | more work on you guys, but this is only going to get worse as we get | more de

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keywording, for the umpteenth time

2005-05-20 Thread Michael Cummings
On Friday 20 May 2005 16:51, Brian Jackson wrote: > > Get every dev access to all the supported arches (some of this could > probably be done with emulators of some sort, qemu or somesuch). Make them > test on every arch before they change any keywords. It's a nice idea (I know I recently opened "

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keywording, for the umpteenth time

2005-05-20 Thread Brian Jackson
Jason Wever wrote: > > From my perspective, if a package maintainer asks for testing and the > ability to keyword (i.e. Spanky asking me if it was OK to bump binutils > to 2.16, to which I said yes) then that is fine. However adding or > changing keywords in an ebuild for which you cannot test (

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keywording, for the umpteenth time

2005-05-20 Thread Jason Wever
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 20 May 2005, Duncan Coutts wrote: Sorry folks this was my fault. I've sent my grovelling apology to the sparc team. Hopefully they'll accept my apologies and put my digressions down to me being a new dev. :-) You can only take some of the credit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keywording, for the umpteenth time

2005-05-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 20 May 2005 02:53 pm, Duncan Coutts wrote: > Sorry folks this was my fault. ah, good to know ... thought it might have been my binutils-2.16 ~sparc marking, but i guess that's somewhat sane since Weeve gave it a quick run and it seems to be OK thus far ... -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keywording, for the umpteenth time

2005-05-20 Thread Duncan Coutts
On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 10:42 -0600, Jason Wever wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > OK, let's review this again. > > If you cannot test a given ebuild on a given arch, then don't touch that > arch's keyword (unless you need to remove it for broken dependencies). > > If y

[gentoo-dev] Keywording, for the umpteenth time

2005-05-20 Thread Jason Wever
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OK, let's review this again. If you cannot test a given ebuild on a given arch, then don't touch that arch's keyword (unless you need to remove it for broken dependencies). If you can test for a given arch and are not part of that arch team, please p