On Friday 28 April 2006 21:29, George Shapovalov wrote:
> Friday, 28. April 2006 21:20, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) Ви написали:
> > OK; just to clarify my understanding, and perhaps for anyone else
> > watching who saw things as muddled as I did:
>
> [skip]
>
> Just to be really anal :)
>
> > 3) A her
On Wednesday 26 April 2006 20:29, Seemant Kulleen wrote:
> I would like emphasise:
>
> A herd is a group of like *packages*
> A team is a bunch of people who share a common goal (sometimes to
> maintain a herd of packages).
> A herd is also a bunch of mindless beasts who follow each other.
does it
Saturday, 29. April 2006 00:28, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) Ви написали:
> On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 21:29:58 +0200
>
> George Shapovalov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Friday, 28. April 2006 21:20, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote:
> > > 3) A herd does not have an email address - it's not a person or
> > > gro
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 21:29:58 +0200
George Shapovalov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Friday, 28. April 2006 21:20, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote:
> > 3) A herd does not have an email address - it's not a person or
> > group of people so an email address is nonsensical.
> 3a) A herd has an associated
Friday, 28. April 2006 21:20, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) Ви написали:
> OK; just to clarify my understanding, and perhaps for anyone else
> watching who saw things as muddled as I did:
[skip]
Just to be really anal :)
> 3) A herd does not have an email address - it's not a person or group
> of people
OK; just to clarify my understanding, and perhaps for anyone else
watching who saw things as muddled as I did:
1) A herd is a group of packages, no more, no less. A package must be a
member of at least one herd (since the herd entry is mandatory in
metadata.xml, and metadata.xml is mandatory).
2
On Thursday 27 April 2006 19:55, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 07:11:33PM +0200, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> > The thing is, in most cases it doesn't really matter. But a herd is a
> > group of packages.
>
> That may be how it was originally intended, but it seems to me - and
>
On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 14:14 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Thursday 27 April 2006 10:54, Stuart Herbert wrote:
> > I think the way forward would be to have this clarification (of herds
> > vs teams) added to the metastructure document, and then for us to sort
> > out the metadata.xml files on th
On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 19:54 +0200, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote:
> > Where?
>
> Two places. First, in the description of maintainer:
>
> "Besides being a member of a herd, a package can also be maintained
> directly"
>
> which implies packages can be maintained by being a member of a herd and
Hi Mike,
On 4/27/06, Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 27 April 2006 10:54, Stuart Herbert wrote:
> > I think the way forward would be to have this clarification (of herds
> > vs teams) added to the metastructure document, and then for us to sort
> > out the metadata.xml file
On Thursday 27 April 2006 10:54, Stuart Herbert wrote:
> I think the way forward would be to have this clarification (of herds
> vs teams) added to the metastructure document, and then for us to sort
> out the metadata.xml files on the back of that.
imho, rather than "fixing" the people's understa
On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 15:54 +0100, Stuart Herbert wrote:
> > A herd is a group of like *packages*
> > A team is a bunch of people who share a common goal (sometimes to
> > maintain a herd of packages).
> > A herd is also a bunch of mindless beasts who follow each other.
>
> The metastructure docum
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 07:11:33PM +0200, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> The thing is, in most cases it doesn't really matter. But a herd is a group
> of
> packages.
That may be how it was originally intended, but it seems to me - and
to others it seems - that the "herds" have evolved into what was
ori
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 10:27:12 -0400
Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 09:22 +0200, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote:
> > I must admit I've assumed that the herd entry in metadata.xml is a
> > reasonable fall-back if the maintainer entry is missing or the
> > listed ma
On Thursday 27 April 2006 09:22, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:29:32 -0400
>
> Seemant Kulleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > To that end, it's been brought up that perhaps the metadata.xml files
> > are partly to blame, in that they imply that the package is maintained
>
Hi Seemant,
On 4/27/06, Seemant Kulleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Consider this both a rant and a GLEP pre-proposal. When we created the
> idea of herds back in the day, there was a clear distinction between a
> herd and a team (and a project). Over time, those definitions have
On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 09:22 +0200, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote:
> I must admit I've assumed that the herd entry in metadata.xml is a
> reasonable fall-back if the maintainer entry is missing or the listed
> maintainer is away/not responding. This is implied by
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/met
Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote:
>It would be useful to know how many people think herds are not
>maintainers - if only a few people think this then I suggest it would
>be better to accept the common interpretation of herd as a group of
>people who can maintain a package.
>
>
>
I've always conside
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:29:32 -0400
Seemant Kulleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To that end, it's been brought up that perhaps the metadata.xml files
> are partly to blame, in that they imply that the package is maintained
> by a herd. There is not maintainer-team listed, just a herd.
>
> So, I
Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wednesday 26 April 2006 22:38, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
Daniel Goller wrote:
I like the idea. (But i guess you figured that out already ;)
To make it easy, we could just s/herd/team/.
then you might as well just keep herd and discard team altogether
Yeah, pretty much
On Wednesday 26 April 2006 22:38, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Daniel Goller wrote:
> > I like the idea. (But i guess you figured that out already ;)
>
> To make it easy, we could just s/herd/team/.
then you might as well just keep herd and discard team altogether
-mike
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Daniel Goller wrote:
I like the idea. (But i guess you figured that out already ;)
To make it easy, we could just s/herd/team/.
Donnie
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Seemant Kulleen wrote:
>> Is there a reason for this besides the definitions not falling into
>> place as they should? I'm not seeing a benefit from this to be honest.
>> People refer to teams as herds a lot of the time. It has become a
>> statement
> Is there a reason for this besides the definitions not falling into
> place as they should? I'm not seeing a benefit from this to be honest.
> People refer to teams as herds a lot of the time. It has become a
> statement over time that people understand. I'm not sure why we want to
> try and c
Seemant Kulleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Consider this both a rant and a GLEP pre-proposal. When we created the
> idea of herds back in the day, there was a clear distinction between a
> herd and a team (and a project). Over time, those definitions have
> become blurry. I would like emphasise
Hi All,
Consider this both a rant and a GLEP pre-proposal. When we created the
idea of herds back in the day, there was a clear distinction between a
herd and a team (and a project). Over time, those definitions have
become blurry. I would like emphasise:
A herd is a group of like *packages*
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