Re: [gentoo-dev] multiple categories for a package (was: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal)

2005-05-16 Thread Brian Harring
On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 10:28:48PM +0200, David Klaftenegger wrote: > Georgi Georgiev wrote: > > Would it be inappropriate to start bitching (again) about a flat tree > > where each package can go in multiple categories? > > So now, that I've read all messages in this thread, I needed a point to

[gentoo-dev] multiple categories for a package (was: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal)

2005-05-16 Thread David Klaftenegger
Georgi Georgiev wrote: > Would it be inappropriate to start bitching (again) about a flat tree > where each package can go in multiple categories? So now, that I've read all messages in this thread, I needed a point to start at.. I guess my approach isn't a way to go, but I can't find the reason

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-12 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
Brian Harring wrote: > > The layout on disk and the semantics of categories do not need to be > > > > related. > Yes and no. You're assuming that people don't use the layout on > disk for digging around without calling portage. Personally, I do. Sometimes I do the same; but other times I find

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-11 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 11/05/2005-10:33:23(-0500): Brian Harring types > The original request was having a package turn up in multiple > categories for searching, right? Actually, that was a side effect. The original request was to stop moving packages around, which is the most annoying part and is also the pa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-11 Thread Brian Harring
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 11:11:02AM -0400, Alec Warner wrote: > >>>Yes and no. You're assuming that people don't use the layout on disk for > >>>digging > >>>around without calling portage. Personally, I do. >Not need to be related, but shouldn't be related. In essence this > allows people

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-11 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brian Harring wrote: > On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 06:01:17PM +0900, Georgi Georgiev wrote: > >>maillog: 11/05/2005-03:40:04(-0500): Brian Harring types >> On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 09:46:03AM +0200, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: Here's my suggestion, for w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-11 Thread Brian Harring
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 06:01:17PM +0900, Georgi Georgiev wrote: > maillog: 11/05/2005-03:40:04(-0500): Brian Harring types > > > On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 09:46:03AM +0200, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: > > > Here's my suggestion, for what it's worth :) > > > > > > The layout on disk and the semantics of c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-11 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 11/05/2005-03:40:04(-0500): Brian Harring types > > On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 09:46:03AM +0200, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: > > Here's my suggestion, for what it's worth :) > > > > The layout on disk and the semantics of categories do not need to be > > related. > Yes and no. You're assuming t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-11 Thread Brian Harring
> On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 09:46:03AM +0200, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: > Here's my suggestion, for what it's worth :) > > The layout on disk and the semantics of categories do not need to be related. Yes and no. You're assuming that people don't use the layout on disk for digging around without cal

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-11 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 07:09:20, Brian Harring wrote: > One thing that just clicked in the skull on why flat-tree has issues; > > currently it's possible to have a package with the same name, yet a > differing category (app-vim/sudo vs app-admin/sudo). Aa flat package namespace would necessitat

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-10 Thread Brian Harring
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 01:27:46PM +0900, Georgi Georgiev wrote: > As to whether the categories are good or not... think about it. If they > were good, would we still be seeing packages moving around the tree? > That's why I think that multiple categories are a necessity. Unless of > course, packag

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-10 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 10/05/2005-22:30:56(-0500): Brian Harring types > Re: having a package claimed by multiple categories... eh. yeah, > that's a bit valid although I'd think it's either A) an indiciation > our categories need to be adjusted a bit, or B) (hopefully) a rare > case. :) No, no, please not A

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-10 Thread Brian Harring
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 08:04:04PM +0900, Georgi Georgiev wrote: > maillog: 10/05/2005-11:28:21(+0200): Martin Schlemmer types > > On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 13:07 -0400, Aron Griffis wrote: > > > Georgi Georgiev wrote:[Sun May 08 2005, 08:19:20PM EDT] > > > > Would it be inappropriate to start bitc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-10 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 10/05/2005-11:28:21(+0200): Martin Schlemmer types > On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 13:07 -0400, Aron Griffis wrote: > > Georgi Georgiev wrote: [Sun May 08 2005, 08:19:20PM EDT] > > > Would it be inappropriate to start bitching (again) about a flat > > > tree where each package can go in multi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-10 Thread Martin Schlemmer
On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 13:07 -0400, Aron Griffis wrote: > Georgi Georgiev wrote:[Sun May 08 2005, 08:19:20PM EDT] > > Would it be inappropriate to start bitching (again) about a flat > > tree where each package can go in multiple categories? > > That's something I'd love to see eventually..

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-10 Thread Martin Schlemmer
On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 13:07 -0400, Aron Griffis wrote: > Georgi Georgiev wrote:[Sun May 08 2005, 08:19:20PM EDT] > > Would it be inappropriate to start bitching (again) about a flat > > tree where each package can go in multiple categories? > > That's something I'd love to see eventually..

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-10 Thread Martin Schlemmer
On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 13:07 -0400, Aron Griffis wrote: > Georgi Georgiev wrote:[Sun May 08 2005, 08:19:20PM EDT] > > Would it be inappropriate to start bitching (again) about a flat > > tree where each package can go in multiple categories? > > That's something I'd love to see eventually..

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-09 Thread Aron Griffis
Georgi Georgiev wrote: [Sun May 08 2005, 08:19:20PM EDT] > Would it be inappropriate to start bitching (again) about a flat > tree where each package can go in multiple categories? That's something I'd love to see eventually... I mean the flat tree, not the complaining ;-) Regards, Aron -- Aro

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-08 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 09/05/2005-01:50:04(+0200): Lars Weiler types > * Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05/05/08 17:01 -0600]: > > You could always borrow from the Germans and call it app-handy. > > Yeah! That's pure Denglisch :) > > And while we are on it, add all packages for presentations > into an "a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 08 May 2005 04:46 pm, Alin Nastac wrote: > R Hill wrote: > > this doesn't include anything like VOIP of course. btw i think > > "cellphone" is an Americanism. i worked for AT&T Wireless before they > > were bought by Cingular and the term "cellphone" was discouraged for > > that reason.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-08 Thread Lars Weiler
* Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05/05/08 17:01 -0600]: > You could always borrow from the Germans and call it app-handy. Yeah! That's pure Denglisch :) And while we are on it, add all packages for presentations into an "app-beamer" group ;-) Well, back on topic. Some of the suggested pac

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-08 Thread Collins Richey
On 5/8/05, W.Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In Oz, cellphone is only used in american movies, here they are called > "mobile phones" (formal), "mobiles" (common usage) and "mob" when > written (e.g., Mob: 0419...) > > There's also the upcoming "cell" processor architecture that may clash >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-08 Thread W.Kenworthy
In Oz, cellphone is only used in american movies, here they are called "mobile phones" (formal), "mobiles" (common usage) and "mob" when written (e.g., Mob: 0419...) There's also the upcoming "cell" processor architecture that may clash in the future. How about app-mobphone or app-mobilephone or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-08 Thread Alin Nastac
R Hill wrote: > > > this doesn't include anything like VOIP of course. btw i think > "cellphone" is an Americanism. i worked for AT&T Wireless before they > were bought by Cingular and the term "cellphone" was discouraged for > that reason. maybe just app-phone? hmm... I think it should includ

[gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-08 Thread R Hill
Alin Nastac wrote: Hi folks, I think we should make a new category called app-cellphone containing the following packages: net-dialup/gammu net-dialup/gnokii net-dialup/wammu net-wireless/gnome-phone-manager Yes, I know. It is a short list, but shouldn't be a category representative for its