On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 10:08:26AM +0300, Joonas Niilola wrote:
>
> On 6/27/20 2:28 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> >
> > TL;DR: Please make it easier to search on the QA reports site for
> > issues, and only show things directly relevant to the search.
> >
> > A long time ago, there was blizzy's si
On 6/27/20 2:28 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
>
> TL;DR: Please make it easier to search on the QA reports site for
> issues, and only show things directly relevant to the search.
>
> A long time ago, there was blizzy's site that listed packages that were
> stabilization candidates, and you could fi
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 01:48:31PM -0400, Aaron Bauman wrote:
> So, thanks for proving my point that all the tooling changes, notices,
> ML posts, etc don't matter. Someone *will* find something to complain
> about.
They will also complain about the status quo, you won't win there!
> >2. The rep
On June 26, 2020 11:08:35 AM EDT, Rich Freeman wrote:
>On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 10:36 AM Aaron Bauman wrote:
>>
>> On June 26, 2020 7:13:07 AM EDT, Rich Freeman
>wrote:
>> >> Of all the methods listed in the previous posts, the QA reports,
>etc.
>> >> there is no excuse individuals can't find
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 10:36 AM Aaron Bauman wrote:
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> On June 26, 2020 7:13:07 AM EDT, Rich Freeman wrote:
> >> Of all the methods listed in the previous posts, the QA reports, etc.
> >> there is no excuse individuals can't find out if their package is py2
> >> only.
> >
> >None of those metho
On June 26, 2020 7:13:07 AM EDT, Rich Freeman wrote:
>On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 11:07 PM Aaron Bauman wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 04:21:14PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> >
>> > We're removing python2 around . You can help us out by
>updating
>> > any packages you have that use python2
On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 11:07 PM Aaron Bauman wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 04:21:14PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
> >
> > We're removing python2 around . You can help us out by updating
> > any packages you have that use python2. If you want to easily
> > identify these packages just do .
>
On June 26, 2020 2:45:07 AM EDT, Mart Raudsepp wrote:
>Ühel kenal päeval, N, 25.06.2020 kell 23:47, kirjutas Aaron Bauman:
>> Yes, there are successors in Gentoo.
>
>Traditionally p.mask entries point these out.
Feel free to find and report all possible alternatives for all the packages
that
Ühel kenal päeval, N, 25.06.2020 kell 23:47, kirjutas Aaron Bauman:
> Yes, there are successors in Gentoo.
Traditionally p.mask entries point these out.
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On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 8:14 PM Aaron Bauman wrote:
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> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 10:12:18AM -0700, Matt Turner wrote:
> > offlineimap is widely used and blocks no further work. It can easily
> > remain in the tree after all other python2_7 support is gone.
> >
> > This is not a hill worth dying on.
On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 11:52:28AM +0200, Thomas Deutschmann wrote:
> On 2020-06-20 21:24, Aaron Bauman wrote:
> > Thomas, unfortunately, I am shocked at your choice of words here. I
> > think it is reasonable that any developer would understand a lack
> > of forward momentum in removing Py2 only p
On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 10:12:18AM -0700, Matt Turner wrote:
> offlineimap is widely used and blocks no further work. It can easily
> remain in the tree after all other python2_7 support is gone.
>
> This is not a hill worth dying on.
>
I am confused here... are you saying that due to usage of t
On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 04:21:14PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 4:08 PM Michał Górny wrote:
> >
> > $ git grep -l mgo...@gentoo.org '**/metadata.xml' | cut -d/ -f1-2 |
> > xargs gpy-py2 2>/dev/null
> >
>
> I have no idea what gpy-py2 is, but I'll take your word for it.
>
On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 2:45 PM John Helmert III wrote:
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> On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 07:32:04AM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> > On 2020-06-24 16:08, Michał Górny wrote:
> > >
> > > $ git grep -l mgo...@gentoo.org '**/metadata.xml' | cut -d/ -f1-2 |
> > > xargs gpy-py2 2>/dev/null
> > find -L "${
On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 07:32:04AM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 2020-06-24 16:08, Michał Górny wrote:
> >
> > $ git grep -l mgo...@gentoo.org '**/metadata.xml' | cut -d/ -f1-2 |
> > xargs gpy-py2 2>/dev/null
> >
>
> The big problem with this is that it misses any aliases (like graphics@)
On 2020-06-24 16:08, Michał Górny wrote:
>
> $ git grep -l mgo...@gentoo.org '**/metadata.xml' | cut -d/ -f1-2 |
> xargs gpy-py2 2>/dev/null
>
The big problem with this is that it misses any aliases (like graphics@)
that you're a member of. But let's golf; this is POSIX sh, doesn't use
grep to p
On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 4:08 PM Michał Górny wrote:
>
> $ git grep -l mgo...@gentoo.org '**/metadata.xml' | cut -d/ -f1-2 |
> xargs gpy-py2 2>/dev/null
>
I have no idea what gpy-py2 is, but I'll take your word for it.
In any case, the solution in this case is to send a nice email to
-dev-announc
On Wed, 2020-06-24 at 16:03 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 3:04 PM Andreas Sturmlechner
> wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 11:29 AM Rich Freeman wrote:
> > > > Sure, you can use the portage API to find this info. However, that is
> > > > as easy to do for a list of all
On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 3:04 PM Andreas Sturmlechner wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 11:29 AM Rich Freeman wrote:
> > > Sure, you can use the portage API to find this info. However, that is
> > > as easy to do for a list of all impacted packages in the tree with
> > > their maintainers as f
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 11:29 AM Rich Freeman wrote:
> > Sure, you can use the portage API to find this info. However, that is
> > as easy to do for a list of all impacted packages in the tree with
> > their maintainers as for any individual maintainer to obtain this info
> > for their own pack
On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 2:40 PM Alec Warner wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 11:29 AM Rich Freeman wrote:
>>
>> Sure, you can use the portage API to find this info. However, that is
>> as easy to do for a list of all impacted packages in the tree with
>> their maintainers as for any individual
On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 11:29 AM Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 2:18 PM Andreas Sturmlechner
> wrote:
> >
> > The lack of curiosity for one's own packages' python compatibility is
> not just
> > a py27 isolated issue, it was a big problem with py36 -> py37 with so
> many
> > devs
On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 2:18 PM Andreas Sturmlechner wrote:
>
> The lack of curiosity for one's own packages' python compatibility is not just
> a py27 isolated issue, it was a big problem with py36 -> py37 with so many
> devs simply not filing that necessary stabilisation.
That suggests that if
On Wednesday, 24 June 2020 20:03:57 CEST Michał Górny wrote:
> I think you're making the wrong assumption that Gentoo developers run
> bleeding edge systems. Instead, many of them prefer running stable
> and avoiding anything even remotely problematic.
That's not a contradiction for stable system
On Wed, 2020-06-24 at 19:48 +0200, Andreas Sturmlechner wrote:
> On Wednesday, 24 June 2020 13:19:08 CEST Rich Freeman wrote:
> > You seem to think that maintainers should know if they're maintaining
> > a v2-only package. I suspect that most maintainers don't pay that
> > close attention to what v
On Wednesday, 24 June 2020 13:19:08 CEST Rich Freeman wrote:
> You seem to think that maintainers should know if they're maintaining
> a v2-only package. I suspect that most maintainers don't pay that
> close attention to what versions of python are supported by their
> various packages, and neithe
On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 2:52 AM Thomas Deutschmann wrote:
> On 2020-06-20 21:24, Aaron Bauman wrote:
> > Thomas, unfortunately, I am shocked at your choice of words here. I
> > think it is reasonable that any developer would understand a lack
> > of forward momentum in removing Py2 only packages o
On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 12:24 PM Aaron Bauman wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 01:29:46PM +0200, Thomas Deutschmann wrote:
> > On 2020-06-20 12:07, Michał Górny wrote:
> > >> Al least, python2 is not on your list.
> > >>
> > >> Be first into the future by masking this stuff and
> > >> Last out
On Wed, 2020-06-24 at 11:52 +0200, Thomas Deutschmann wrote:
>
In the beginning of this month you just decided to disband graphics
> project. On your own. Please tell me what gave you the authority to just
> do that? You didn't even share your plan before executing it on any
> mailing list. Someth
On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 1:36 PM Aaron Bauman wrote:
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> On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 10:32:28AM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> > > On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Aaron Bauman wrote:
> >
> > >> # Aaron Bauman (2020-06-20)
> > >> # Py2 only
> > >> # Removal in 14 days
> >
> > I see these short deadlines quite
On 2020-06-20 21:24, Aaron Bauman wrote:
> Thomas, unfortunately, I am shocked at your choice of words here. I
> think it is reasonable that any developer would understand a lack
> of forward momentum in removing Py2 only packages only drives
> stagnation.
>
> If you have a more effective method t
On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 01:29:46PM +0200, Thomas Deutschmann wrote:
> On 2020-06-20 12:07, Michał Górny wrote:
> >> Al least, python2 is not on your list.
> >>
> >> Be first into the future by masking this stuff and
> >> Last out of the past by leaving up to users to decide.
> >> It could stay in
On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 10:32:28AM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> > On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Aaron Bauman wrote:
>
> >> # Aaron Bauman (2020-06-20)
> >> # Py2 only
> >> # Removal in 14 days
>
> I see these short deadlines quite often recently. Any reason why this
> can't be the usual 30 days?
>
On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 14:58:22 +0300
Azamat Hackimov wrote:
> > games-emulation/openmsx
>
> git version migrated to meson and python3
Yeah, don't worry, this has been on my TODO for a while and I'll step
it up the list. I was hoping they'd do a release but no such luck.
--
James Le Cuirot (ch
On Sat, 2020-06-20 at 13:29 +0200, Thomas Deutschmann wrote:
> On 2020-06-20 12:07, Michał Górny wrote:
> > > Al least, python2 is not on your list.
> > >
> > > Be first into the future by masking this stuff and
> > > Last out of the past by leaving up to users to decide.
> > > It could stay in t
On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 12:58:20AM -0400, Aaron Bauman wrote:
> > # Aaron Bauman (2020-06-20)
> > # Py2 only
> > # Removal in 14 days
> > dev-util/uftrace
This is a function tracer written in C. I don't know why it's on this
list. If a package has only optional support for python like this,
just
> games-emulation/openmsx
git version migrated to meson and python3
On 2020-06-20 12:07, Michał Górny wrote:
>> Al least, python2 is not on your list.
>>
>> Be first into the future by masking this stuff and
>> Last out of the past by leaving up to users to decide.
>> It could stay in the tree, masked, as long as python2.
>>
>
> Do you really think it'd be better
On Sat, 2020-06-20 at 10:36 +0100, Roy Bamford wrote:
> On 2020.06.20 05:58, Aaron Bauman wrote:
> > > # Aaron Bauman (2020-06-20)
> > > # Py2 only
> > > # Removal in 14 days
>
> [list of stuff]
>
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Aaron
> >
>
> Aaron,
>
> If everything that needs python2 is being remov
On 2020.06.20 05:58, Aaron Bauman wrote:
> > # Aaron Bauman (2020-06-20)
> > # Py2 only
> > # Removal in 14 days
[list of stuff]
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Aaron
>
Aaron,
If everything that needs python2 is being removed,
why not python2 itself?
Al least, python2 is not on your list.
Be first in
> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
>>> games-board/scid
> I wonder about scid appearing in the list. IIRC, it is written in C++,
> not Python.
It turns out that the ebuild installs a small Python script, which isn't
needed for normal functioning of the program. Bug 728876 now.
Ulr
> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, Aaron Bauman wrote:
>> # Aaron Bauman (2020-06-20)
>> # Py2 only
>> # Removal in 14 days
I see these short deadlines quite often recently. Any reason why this
can't be the usual 30 days?
>> [...]
>> games-board/scid
I wonder about scid appearing in the list. IIRC, i
> # Aaron Bauman (2020-06-20)
> # Py2 only
> # Removal in 14 days
> app-admin/clustershell
> app-crypt/openvpn-blacklist
> app-forensics/volatility
> app-misc/golly
> app-misc/yagtd
> app-text/pylize
> app-text/rpl
> app-vim/easytags
> app-vim/notes
> dev-db/metakit
> dev-python/backports-ssl-matc
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