Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: where goes Gentoo?

2005-08-04 Thread Brian D. Harring
On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 05:31:43PM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > The only things I could see being needed out of portage itself is the > ability to control "emerge" commands remotely, such as forcing an update > of apache to $version to resolve a vulnerability. The requirements of portage, or w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: where goes Gentoo?

2005-08-04 Thread Brian D. Harring
Long one kiddies... responses inlined, bit more interested in discussion of what's required/desired then "your definition of enterprise sucks"... (throws on the flamesuit)... On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 02:35:08PM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 11:48 -0400, Eric Brown wrote:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Hold on portage feature requests

2005-07-28 Thread Brian D. Harring
On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 09:22:56AM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Jason Stubbs wrote: > > | The reason behind this is that at approximately two thirds of bugs > received > | are feature requests and they are drowning at the real bugs. More > importantly, > | the critical bugs are becoming very ha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: upgrade's and rc-scripts

2005-07-22 Thread Brian D. Harring
On Sat, Jul 23, 2005 at 01:20:19AM +0200, Sven Köhler wrote: > > Out of curiousity, has any put any thought into some automated method > > or hook for allowing restarting of rc-scripts on upgrade/re-emerge of > > a package? > > > > Other question is if any such hook is even needed. > > So... tho

Re: [gentoo-dev] upgrade's and rc-scripts

2005-07-20 Thread Brian D. Harring
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 06:10:31PM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 16:54 -0500, Brian D. Harring wrote: > > Out of curiousity, has any put any thought into some automated method > > or hook for allowing restarting of rc-scripts on upgrade/re-emerge of

[gentoo-dev] upgrade's and rc-scripts

2005-07-20 Thread Brian D. Harring
Out of curiousity, has any put any thought into some automated method or hook for allowing restarting of rc-scripts on upgrade/re-emerge of a package? Other question is if any such hook is even needed. So... thoughts? I don't really have any input on it, aside from I'd like to gather what peop

Re: [gentoo-dev] splitting build deps out from depends

2005-07-06 Thread Brian D. Harring
Clarification, mixture of the emails I haven't responded to addressed here (further, sorry for the delay, didn't think the thread would go any further while I was offline for birthdays/4th of july stuff)... On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 04:39:14AM +0200, Martin Schlemmer wrote: > On Tue, 2005-07-05 at

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: qt.eclass

2005-07-03 Thread Brian D. Harring
On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 01:43:43PM +0200, foser wrote: > On Fri, 2005-07-01 at 18:33 +0300, Dan Armak wrote: > > > calling a function in a global scope is a bad idea. it leads to lots of > > > unneccessary (and timely) computations > > Necessary in the case of kde split ebuilds. Take a look at > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] splitting build deps out from depends

2005-07-03 Thread Brian D. Harring
On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 08:16:46PM -0500, Kito wrote: > Accurate deps should be a goal for the tree, a long term one > obviously... Picking at the words (not you), but "long term" == it gets ignored till someone starts screaming/foaming at the mouth. If BDEPEND were added, it's extra data that

Re: [gentoo-dev] splitting build deps out from depends

2005-07-01 Thread Brian D. Harring
On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 08:56:45PM +0200, Maurice van der Pot wrote: > On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 01:45:20PM -0500, Brian D. Harring wrote: > > Not tenuable > > > > What you're effectivelly suggesting is that portage stomp ahead and, > > hit a failure, try and fi

Re: [gentoo-dev] splitting build deps out from depends

2005-07-01 Thread Brian D. Harring
On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 08:53:18PM +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Friday 01 July 2005 20:42, Brian D. Harring wrote: > > Err... missing the point, and proving my point.  Current portage > > _will_ fail because it's an unstated dependency.  Why shouldn

Re: [gentoo-dev] splitting build deps out from depends

2005-07-01 Thread Brian D. Harring
> > > Full dependency information hasn't be viable due to resolver issues, > > > which will be fixed. > > > > so why dont you come back once you have something that is supposed to work > > ? > > you're proposing we start generating a ton of circular dependencies which > > we > > arent even cl

Re: [gentoo-dev] splitting build deps out from depends

2005-07-01 Thread Brian D. Harring
On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 08:35:36PM +0200, Maurice van der Pot wrote: > If the point is to make dependencies complete, isn't there a way to > build in some support for detecting it into some tool or other? > > If we have a program that can create an environment and detect which > programs are run w

Re: [gentoo-dev] splitting build deps out from depends

2005-07-01 Thread Brian D. Harring
On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 02:30:12PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Friday 01 July 2005 02:11 pm, Brian D. Harring wrote: > > Meanwhile, back to the "you want us to add what?", our dependency > > graph *is* incomplete. > > so what ? i dont see it being a bug I

Re: [gentoo-dev] splitting build deps out from depends

2005-07-01 Thread Brian D. Harring
On Fri, Jul 01, 2005 at 01:49:19PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Friday 01 July 2005 12:25 pm, Brian D. Harring wrote: > > Currently, we pretty much leave out the big dogs of build depends from > > ebuilds- basically we rely on the profile to require a suitable > > toolcha

[gentoo-dev] splitting build deps out from depends

2005-07-01 Thread Brian D. Harring
Hola. Quick statement of terminology- x-compile == cross compiling, building arm crap on an x86, building up a x-compile target in a subdirectory of / (fex) Currently, we pretty much leave out the big dogs of build depends from ebuilds- basically we rely on the profile to require a suitable