On 14/07/17 11:32, Mike Gilbert wrote:
> Please share your comments/questions on the proposed news item below.
> There is no immediate action required for most users, but it seems
> like a significant enough change to warrant a broadcast.
>
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> Title: systemd rootprefix migration
> Author: M
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x11-apps/python-whiteboard
x11-apps/whyteboard
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Please share your comments/questions on the proposed news item below.
There is no immediate action required for most users, but it seems
like a significant enough change to warrant a broadcast.
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Title: systemd rootprefix migration
Author: Mike Gilbert
Posted: 2017-07-14
Revision: 1
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Am 12.07.2017 um 22:03 schrieb Mike Gilbert:
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:42 AM, William Hubbs wrote:
OpenRC 0.28 will mount efivars read only by default due to concerns
about users bricking systems by writing to this filesystem unexpectedly.
Here is the newsitem covering this change.
William
On Jul 13, 2017 7:42 PM, "Mike Gilbert" wrote:
On Jul 13, 2017 7:30 PM, "William Hubbs" wrote:
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 08:52:23AM -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 12:30:12PM +0200, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote:
> > On 07/12/2017 05:42 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > > OpenRC 0.
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 08:52:23AM -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 12:30:12PM +0200, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote:
> > On 07/12/2017 05:42 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > > OpenRC 0.28 will mount efivars read only by default due to concerns
> > > about users bricking systems by wr
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 12:45 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 10:29:06 -0400 Mike Gilbert wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 7:35 AM, M. J. Everitt wrote:
>>> > On 13/07/17 12:09, Rich Freeman wrote:
>>> >> Presumably you
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 10:29:06 -0400 Mike Gilbert wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 7:35 AM, M. J. Everitt wrote:
>> > On 13/07/17 12:09, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> >> Presumably you'd only want to remount it if it was mounted ro to
>> >> star
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
>
> But in some scenarios this command is normal. E.g. user installs
> Gentoo from some live dvd/flash, makes some mistakes, understands
> that system is broken beyond repair and decides to start over again.
> If there is no need to recreat
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 17:58:29 +0300 Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 10:29:06 -0400 Mike Gilbert wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 7:35 AM, M. J. Everitt wrote:
> > > On 13/07/17 12:09, Rich Freeman wrote:
> > >> Presumably you'd only want to remount it if it was mounted ro to
> > >>
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 10:29:06 -0400 Mike Gilbert wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 7:35 AM, M. J. Everitt wrote:
> > On 13/07/17 12:09, Rich Freeman wrote:
> >> Presumably you'd only want to remount it if it was mounted ro to
> >> start, since it sounds like openrc will be diverging from systemd
> >
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote:
>
> We are actually talking about protecting people who run something like
> rm -rf /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/ as root.
>
> If you are dumb enough to do something like that, you almost deserve
> to spend a couple hundred on a new motherboard.
>
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 7:35 AM, M. J. Everitt wrote:
> On 13/07/17 12:09, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> Presumably you'd only want to remount it if it was mounted ro to
>> start, since it sounds like openrc will be diverging from systemd
>> behavior here.
>>
>> While it seems like a good idea I'm not su
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 12:30:12PM +0200, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote:
> On 07/12/2017 05:42 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > OpenRC 0.28 will mount efivars read only by default due to concerns
> > about users bricking systems by writing to this filesystem unexpectedly.
> >
> > Here is the newsitem co
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
>
> I see no problems with compatibility. In case of software needs to
> write to efivars (bootloader installation, etc) algo is simple:
>
> flag = false;
> if (mounted(efivars) == RO) { remount(efivars, RW); flag = true; }
> do_usual_stuff(
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 12:35:50 +0100 M. J. Everitt wrote:
> On 13/07/17 12:09, Rich Freeman wrote:
> > Presumably you'd only want to remount it if it was mounted ro to
> > start, since it sounds like openrc will be diverging from systemd
> > behavior here.
> >
> > While it seems like a good idea I'm
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:54:44 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote:
[...]
> >> Presumably you'd only want to remount it if it was mounted ro to
> >> start, since it sounds like openrc will be diverging from systemd
> >> behavior here.
> >>
> >> While it seems like a good idea I'm not sure how big an improvement
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 7:43 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:09:45 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 2:30 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
>> > On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:42:50 -0700 Matt Turner wrote:
>> >> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Lucas Ramage
>> >> wrot
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 07:09:45 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 2:30 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> > On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:42:50 -0700 Matt Turner wrote:
> >> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Lucas Ramage
> >> wrote:
> >> > What needs to be changed for the bootloaders? I may be
On 13/07/17 12:09, Rich Freeman wrote:
> Presumably you'd only want to remount it if it was mounted ro to
> start, since it sounds like openrc will be diverging from systemd
> behavior here.
>
> While it seems like a good idea I'm not sure how big an improvement it
> is in the larger scheme. We're
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 2:30 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:42:50 -0700 Matt Turner wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Lucas Ramage
>> wrote:
>> > What needs to be changed for the bootloaders? I may be able to assist.
>>
>> The documentation should be updated to say
On 07/12/2017 05:42 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> OpenRC 0.28 will mount efivars read only by default due to concerns
> about users bricking systems by writing to this filesystem unexpectedly.
>
> Here is the newsitem covering this change.
Although the changes seems sensible, I'm wondering if a news
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