[gentoo-dev] Re: [OT] Re: Re: RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Duncan
Andrew Savchenko posted on Sat, 06 Jun 2015 20:36:13 +0300 as excerpted: > On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 18:35:41 +0600 Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote: >> > * linewidth >> 80 (why do we have this short limit still in 2015) >> >> Actually, I dislike that too, but the reason is simple: some people >> still

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 3:26 AM, Justin Lecher (jlec) wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Hi everyone, > > Can we get an agreement on how we are indenting metadata.xml? > > I like to properly format and indent metadata.xml, but without having > an agreement or policy on t

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Samstag, 6. Juni 2015, 09:26:08 schrieb Justin Lecher (jlec): > Hi everyone, > > Can we get an agreement on how we are indenting metadata.xml? > > I like to properly format and indent metadata.xml, but without having > an agreement or policy on the indention, I make unhappy by choosing > the w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2015-06-06 Thread Daniel "zlg" Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 06/06/2015 09:02 AM, Jauhien Piatlicki wrote: > Hi, > > the list of packages that I'm no longer interested in: > > media-sound/apulse -- needs version bump dev-util/android-ndk -- > needs version bump > > I will remove myself from maintainers o

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Allan Wegan
> The two options which are already suggested are > * 2 spaces > * single tab > So what should it be? Two spaces per indention with a maximum line width of 80 single-width Unicode grapheme clusters (equals the with of 80 ASCII characters). -- Allan Wegan Jabber: allanwe...@jabber.ccc.de OTR-F

[OT] Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 18:35:41 +0600 Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote: > > * linewidth >> 80 (why do we have this short limit still in 2015) > > Actually, I dislike that too, but the reason is simple: some people still > using text-mode terminals. > > // It would be nice to finally fix that, but le

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 14:22:38 +0200 Justin Lecher (jlec) wrote: > Exactly, that was my intention. > > How about > > * indent with tab > * tab == 4 spaces > * linewidth >> 80 (why do we have this short limit still in 2015) Because of readability and ergonomics. The optimal page width is about 67 c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2015-06-06 Thread Jason Zaman
On Sat, Jun 06, 2015 at 06:02:48PM +0200, Jauhien Piatlicki wrote: > Hi, > > the list of packages that I'm no longer interested in: > > media-sound/apulse -- needs version bump > dev-util/android-ndk -- needs version bump I'll take android-ndk since I already maintain android-studio. -- Jason

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2015-06-06 Thread Jauhien Piatlicki
Hi, the list of packages that I'm no longer interested in: media-sound/apulse -- needs version bump dev-util/android-ndk -- needs version bump I will remove myself from maintainers of these packages and, if there is no other maintainers reassign bugs to maintainer-needed. dev-util/ext4_utils de

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Justin Lecher (jlec)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 06/06/15 17:21, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 06/06/2015 08:22 AM, Justin Lecher (jlec) wrote: >> >> * linewidth >> 80 (why do we have this short limit still in >> 2015) >> > > It's ancient typographic wisdom that the optimal measure (number of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 06/06/2015 08:22 AM, Justin Lecher (jlec) wrote: > > * linewidth >> 80 (why do we have this short limit still in 2015) > It's ancient typographic wisdom that the optimal measure (number of characters in column of text) is somewhere between 45 and 75. It varies somewhat depending on the typefa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Kent Fredric
On 7 June 2015 at 00:22, Justin Lecher (jlec) wrote: > * linewidth >> 80 (why do we have this short limit still in 2015) I wouldn't say this is the reason... but there's a specific benefit for me at least with the font size I use and the screen size I have. Means you can fit 2 terminals in ni

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
> * linewidth >> 80 (why do we have this short limit still in 2015) Actually, I dislike that too, but the reason is simple: some people still using text-mode terminals. // It would be nice to finally fix that, but let's be realistic: it looks like it wouldn't be finished in the near 10 years :-

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Justin Lecher (jlec)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 06/06/15 14:07, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> On Sat, 6 Jun 2015, Duncan wrote: > >>> *If* we should agree on using tabs, then we should also >>> standardise the tab width. Using the same rules for indenting >>> and whitespace as for ebuilds (i.e

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sat, 6 Jun 2015, Duncan wrote: >> *If* we should agree on using tabs, then we should also standardise >> the tab width. Using the same rules for indenting and whitespace as >> for ebuilds (i.e., tab stops every four positions) suggests itself: >> https://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writi

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread James Le Cuirot
On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 09:25:33 +0200 Patrick Lauer wrote: > On 06/06/15 09:26, Justin Lecher (jlec) wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > Can we get an agreement on how we are indenting metadata.xml? > > > > I like to properly format and indent metadata.xml, but without > > having an agreement or polic

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Duncan
Ulrich Mueller posted on Sat, 06 Jun 2015 12:17:25 +0200 as excerpted: >> On Sat, 6 Jun 2015, Michał Górny wrote: > >> Visual space is what you set in your editor. Which also gives tab the >> advantage that you can set it to something good for you, like 'more >> than 2 spaces so that it is re

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sat, 6 Jun 2015, Michał Górny wrote: > Visual space is what you set in your editor. Which also gives tab > the advantage that you can set it to something good for you, like > 'more than 2 spaces so that it is readable'. *If* we should agree on using tabs, then we should also standardise

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-06-06, o godz. 10:02:53 Ulrich Mueller napisał(a): > > On Sat, 6 Jun 2015, Michał Górny wrote: > > >> Tabs are too wasteful on space. Therefore, two spaces, and no > >> indentation of the top-level elements. > > > That's nonsense. Tab = 1 byte. Two spaces = 2 bytes. > > Visual sp

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Jason Zaman
On Sat, Jun 06, 2015 at 10:02:53AM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Sat, 6 Jun 2015, Michał Górny wrote: > > >> Tabs are too wasteful on space. Therefore, two spaces, and no > >> indentation of the top-level elements. > > > That's nonsense. Tab = 1 byte. Two spaces = 2 bytes. > > Visual s

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Jason Zaman
On Sat, Jun 06, 2015 at 09:34:41AM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2015-06-06, o godz. 09:26:08 > "Justin Lecher (jlec)" napisał(a): > > > Can we get an agreement on how we are indenting metadata.xml? > > > > I like to properly format and indent metadata.xml, but without having > > an agreemen

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sat, 6 Jun 2015, Michał Górny wrote: >> Tabs are too wasteful on space. Therefore, two spaces, and no >> indentation of the top-level elements. > That's nonsense. Tab = 1 byte. Two spaces = 2 bytes. Visual space. Ulrich pgpYsZj5GseK_.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-06-06, o godz. 09:46:27 Ulrich Mueller napisał(a): > > On Sat, 06 Jun 2015, Justin Lecher (jlec) wrote: > > > * 2 spaces > > * single tab > > > So what should it be? > > Tabs are too wasteful on space. Therefore, two spaces, and no > indentation of the top-level elements. That's

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015, Justin Lecher (jlec) wrote: > * 2 spaces > * single tab > So what should it be? Tabs are too wasteful on space. Therefore, two spaces, and no indentation of the top-level elements. Ulrich pgpmxfmE7_yBp.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-06-06, o godz. 09:26:08 "Justin Lecher (jlec)" napisał(a): > Can we get an agreement on how we are indenting metadata.xml? > > I like to properly format and indent metadata.xml, but without having > an agreement or policy on the indention, I make unhappy by choosing > the wrong. > > T

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 06/06/15 09:26, Justin Lecher (jlec) wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Can we get an agreement on how we are indenting metadata.xml? > > I like to properly format and indent metadata.xml, but without having > an agreement or policy on the indention, I make unhappy by choosing > the wrong. > > The two

[gentoo-dev] RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Justin Lecher (jlec)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi everyone, Can we get an agreement on how we are indenting metadata.xml? I like to properly format and indent metadata.xml, but without having an agreement or policy on the indention, I make unhappy by choosing the wrong. The two options which a