Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Mon, 13 May 2013 00:24:09 +0200 Alexander Berntsen wrote: > On 13/05/13 00:21, Peter Stuge wrote: > > There is no problem if github is only used for hosting, but if it > > is the primary point of contact, or if pull requests are accepted, > > then github is also writing to repositories, and me

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in mail-client/claws-mail: ChangeLog claws-mail-3.9.1.ebuild

2013-05-12 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 13/05/13 07:46, Christian Faulhammer (fauli) wrote: fauli 13/05/13 04:46:01 Modified: ChangeLog claws-mail-3.9.1.ebuild Log: move libnotify usage over to notification, forgotten in last commit - $(use_enable libnotify notification-plugin) +

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Arun Raghavan
On 12 May 2013 20:34, Markos Chandras wrote: [...] > Besides, most fixes come from users (maybe not the actual patches but > they spot most of the problems) so providing an easier way for them to > contribute is preferred. Moreover, github provides other facilities Is it easier because they alrea

Re: [gentoo-dev] Imprecise dependency specification causing problems with cave

2013-05-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Taahir Ahmed wrote: > It should be noted that the first position (that the dependencies specified in > the ebuilds are not sufficient) is the position of cave's developers. I tend > to agree -- How is cave to know that there hasn't been a brekaing change in a > li

[gentoo-dev] Imprecise dependency specification causing problems with cave

2013-05-12 Thread Taahir Ahmed
I've recently switched to using cave (part of the paludis project) as the package manager for my system. It's more conservative than emerge in some instances, specifically when it comes to bare dependencies (DEPENDS or RDEPENDS that are un-versioned). For example: * The ebuild for virtual/li

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2013-05-12 23h59 UTC

2013-05-12 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2013-05-12 23h59 UTC. Removals: gnome-extra/gnome-lirc-properties 2013-05-07 18:57:27 cardoe dev-python/python-selinux 2013-05-07 19:22:18 swift kde-base/printer-ap

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread W. Trevor King
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:24:09AM +0200, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > On 13/05/13 00:21, Peter Stuge wrote: > > There is no problem if github is only used for hosting, but if it > > is the primary point of contact, or if pull requests are accepted, > > then github is also writing to repositories, a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Peter Stuge
Alexander Berntsen wrote: > > There is no problem if github is only used for hosting, but if it > > is the primary point of contact, or if pull requests are accepted, > > then github is also writing to repositories, and merge commits are > > enforced for all external contributions. That does not sc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 13/05/13 00:21, Peter Stuge wrote: > There is no problem if github is only used for hosting, but if it > is the primary point of contact, or if pull requests are accepted, > then github is also writing to repositories, and merge commits are > enf

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Peter Stuge
Alexander Berntsen wrote: > > [GitHub] enforces some particular workflow > > You keep saying this. What do you mean? I'll clarify! > A lot of projects (including Linux) just use GitHub for hosting and > nothing else. I don't see the problem. There is no problem if github is only used for hosti

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 12/05/13 20:24, Peter Stuge wrote: > [GitHub] enforces some particular workflow You keep saying this. What do you mean? A lot of projects (including Linux) just use GitHub for hosting and nothing else. I don't see the problem. - -- Alexander ale

[gentoo-dev] GitLab Feature-Set / Was: devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread sascha-ml
[...] > > Another option that looks nice is GitLab. > > How does it work? The screenshots look exactly like github. Maybe, I can summarize it up a bit: - GitLab is a Ruby-On-Rails Application => Requires very few setup on a gentoo system: ruby, a webserver and a mysql or postgresl databas

[gentoo-dev] Re: devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 13/05/2013 04:24, Peter Stuge wrote: Michael Palimaka wrote: I agree that Java is sucky, but I don't think that rejecting Gerrit for that reason alone makes sense. Look at what the application does and how it works, to determine if it fits the project or not. I agree, but if infra is not wi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Peter Stuge
Michael Palimaka wrote: >> I agree that Java is sucky, but I don't think that rejecting Gerrit >> for that reason alone makes sense. Look at what the application does >> and how it works, to determine if it fits the project or not. > > I agree, but if infra is not willing to maintain something jav

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Peter Stuge
Theo Chatzimichos wrote: > > > Another option that looks nice is GitLab. > > > > How does it work? The screenshots look exactly like github. > > Don't ask, just go for it! That's not very helpful? I'm happy to expand on my experience with Gerrit, and I'll gladly answer specific questions if I c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites; dev-python/{etsdevtools,blockcanvas,envisagecore}

2013-05-12 Thread Theo Chatzimichos
On Sunday 12 of May 2013 23:21:15 IAN DELANEY wrote: > # Ian Delaney (12 May 2013) > # Recommended by upstream's own maintainer to drop the > # package, no longer valid. > # Masked for removal in 30 days > dev-python/etsdevtools > > # Ian Delaney (12 May 2013) > # Recommended by upstream's own m

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Theo Chatzimichos
On Sunday 12 of May 2013 19:20:03 Peter Stuge wrote: > Rich Freeman wrote: > > Gerrit > > .. > > I've never used it myself but I'm tempted to install it just to > > start messing with it personally. > > Go for it! It's a few steps to set up, but it's not too bad. > > Michael Palimaka wrote: > > I

[gentoo-dev] Re: devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 13/05/2013 03:20, Peter Stuge wrote: I agree that Java is sucky, but I don't think that rejecting Gerrit for that reason alone makes sense. Look at what the application does and how it works, to determine if it fits the project or not. I agree, but if infra is not willing to maintain something

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Peter Stuge
Rich Freeman wrote: > Gerrit > .. > I've never used it myself but I'm tempted to install it just to > start messing with it personally. Go for it! It's a few steps to set up, but it's not too bad. Michael Palimaka wrote: > I believe Gerrit has been suggested before and rejected because it > reli

[gentoo-dev] Re: devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sun, 12 May 2013, Markos Chandras wrote: > This is the kind of policies that kill user contributions. I am very > sad to witness this once again. I've nothing at all against mirroring the repository at github, or against accepting pull requests there. However, I think that we shouldn't r

[gentoo-dev] Re: devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 13/05/2013 02:08, Rich Freeman wrote: Second, I think this really points to there being value for something like Gerrit available on Gentoo, which might be the best of both worlds. I've never used it myself but I'm tempted to install it just to start messing with it personally. I'd be intere

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: > > > This is the kind of policies that kill user contributions. I am very > sad to witness this once again. > I have mixed feelings for this very reason. The concept of accepting contributions on github is an EXCELLENT one. The problem i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> However, the write access removed because of potential conflicts >> between g.o.g.o and github. If you can guarantee me that people will >> not mess things up and not commit only to one of the to remotes, >> then we can enable write access

[gentoo-dev] Re: devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 05/12/2013 04:48 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> On Sun, 12 May 2013, Markos Chandras wrote: > >>> Earlier you said: "Just to clarify, i never said I wanted to >>> deprecated the git.overlays.gentoo.org repo." > >>> Have I missed something? La

[gentoo-dev] Re: devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sun, 12 May 2013, Markos Chandras wrote: >> Earlier you said: "Just to clarify, i never said I wanted to >> deprecated the git.overlays.gentoo.org repo." >> Have I missed something? Last time I looked, github's server >> software wasn't open source. Why should we use non-free tools for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sun, 12 May 2013, Richard Yao wrote: >> Last time I looked, github's server software wasn't open source. >> Why should we use non-free tools for a central piece of Gentoo >> documentation? > The last that I looked, the Verilog designs and other hardware > schematics were not open source

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites; dev-python/{etsdevtools,blockcanvas,envisagecore}

2013-05-12 Thread Theo Chatzimichos
On Sunday 12 of May 2013 23:21:15 IAN DELANEY wrote: > # Ian Delaney (12 May 2013) > # Recommended by upstream's own maintainer to drop the > # package, no longer valid. > # Masked for removal in 30 days > dev-python/etsdevtools > > # Ian Delaney (12 May 2013) > # Recommended by upstream's own m

[gentoo-dev] Last rites; dev-python/{etsdevtools,blockcanvas,envisagecore}

2013-05-12 Thread IAN DELANEY
# Ian Delaney (12 May 2013) # Recommended by upstream's own maintainer to drop the # package, no longer valid. # Masked for removal in 30 days dev-python/etsdevtools # Ian Delaney (12 May 2013) # Recommended by upstream's own maintainer to drop the # package, no longer valid. # Masked for remov

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Peter Stuge
Markos Chandras wrote: > The repository is still accessible in http://git.overlays.gentoo.org > and read-only access is still available. However, the write access > removed because of potential conflicts between g.o.g.o and github. > If you can guarantee me that people will not mess things up and n

Re: [gentoo-dev] devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 05/12/2013 04:02 PM, Ben de Groot wrote: > On 12 May 2013 21:27, Peter Stuge wrote: >> Rich Freeman wrote: The devmanual git repository[1] moved to github[2]. >>> >>> The only thing that isn't FOSS is github itself. Not sure if >>> others

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Richard Yao
On 05/12/2013 09:15 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> On Sun, 12 May 2013, Markos Chandras wrote: > >> The devmanual git repository[1] moved to github[2]. Please update your >> local trees using the following command: > >> Developers: git remote set-url origin >> g...@github.com:gentoo/devmanual.g

Re: [gentoo-dev] devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 12/05/2013 14:27, Peter Stuge wrote: > I feel strongly against github. > > Making something like github the primary point of contact > communicates many negative things for Gentoo IMO. Oh heavens, for once I agree with Peter. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://

[gentoo-dev] Re: devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 05/12/2013 02:15 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> On Sun, 12 May 2013, Markos Chandras wrote: > >> The devmanual git repository[1] moved to github[2]. Please update >> your local trees using the following command: > >> Developers: git remote set

[gentoo-dev] Re: devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Duncan
Rich Freeman posted on Sun, 12 May 2013 09:12:03 -0400 as excerpted: > On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Markos Chandras > wrote: >> The devmanual git repository[1] moved to github[2]. > > No objections to mirroring it there, and accepting pull requests there. > However, would an outright move be

Re: [gentoo-dev] devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Ben de Groot
On 12 May 2013 21:27, Peter Stuge wrote: > Rich Freeman wrote: >> > The devmanual git repository[1] moved to github[2]. >> >> The only thing that isn't FOSS is github itself. Not sure if >> others feel strongly about it. > > I feel strongly against github. > > Making something like github the pri

Re: [gentoo-dev] devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Peter Stuge
Rich Freeman wrote: > > The devmanual git repository[1] moved to github[2]. > > The only thing that isn't FOSS is github itself. Not sure if > others feel strongly about it. I feel strongly against github. Making something like github the primary point of contact communicates many negative thin

[gentoo-dev] Re: devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sun, 12 May 2013, Markos Chandras wrote: > The devmanual git repository[1] moved to github[2]. Please update your > local trees using the following command: > Developers: git remote set-url origin > g...@github.com:gentoo/devmanual.gentoo.org > Read-only: git remote set-url origin > git

Re: [gentoo-dev] devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: > The devmanual git repository[1] moved to github[2]. No objections to mirroring it there, and accepting pull requests there. However, would an outright move be contrary to our social contract?: However, Gentoo will never depend upon a pie

[gentoo-dev] devmanual moved to github

2013-05-12 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Good day, The devmanual git repository[1] moved to github[2]. Please update your local trees using the following command: Developers: git remote set-url origin g...@github.com:gentoo/devmanual.gentoo.org Read-only: git remote set-url origin git://

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-python/gdl-python

2013-05-12 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 # Markos Chandras (12 May 2013) # Does not build. Dead upstream. Bug #467286 # Removal in 30 days dev-python/gdl-python - -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: G