[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Shall econf append its arguments to end of ./configure invocation?

2013-04-30 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013, Ryan Hill wrote: > Then the person implementing the code for Paludis is either a monkey > or a robot*. Anyone capable of reasoning could puzzle out the > implications of not allowing user-given options to override the > defaults. Obviously you can write code that follows

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Shall econf append its arguments to end of ./configure invocation?

2013-04-30 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 19:52:03 -0600 Ryan Hill wrote: > Then the person implementing the code for Paludis is either a monkey > or a robot*. > > *or both (?!) I believe they prefer the term "mathematician". -- Ciaran McCreesh signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GCC USE flag changes

2013-04-30 Thread Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/30/2013 11:49 PM, Ryan Hill wrote: > On Wed, 01 May 2013 11:33:00 +0800 > Patrick Lauer wrote: > >> On 05/01/2013 11:25 AM, Ryan Hill wrote: >>> Since people like to start whinging threads every time we have to change >>> flags on gcc this is a

Re: [gentoo-dev] GNOME migrating from GConf to GSettings; effects on Gentoo?

2013-04-30 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
On Tue, 2013-04-30 at 23:26 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:17:35PM -0400, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote > > > It impacts users who use stable keywords and are therefore stuck with > > GNOME-2.32. The workaround is for affected users to switch to ~arch > > keywords (note that G

Re: [gentoo-dev] GNOME migrating from GConf to GSettings; effects on Gentoo?

2013-04-30 Thread Grant
>> It impacts users who use stable keywords and are therefore stuck with >> GNOME-2.32. The workaround is for affected users to switch to ~arch >> keywords (note that GNOME-3.x ebuilds in ~arch get vastly more care and >> attention from us than the theoretically stable GNOME-2.32). >> >> And the re

[gentoo-dev] Re: GCC USE flag changes

2013-04-30 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 01 May 2013 11:33:00 +0800 Patrick Lauer wrote: > On 05/01/2013 11:25 AM, Ryan Hill wrote: > > Since people like to start whinging threads every time we have to change > > flags on gcc this is a friendly notice of some upcoming changes. > > > [snip lots of good ideas] > > > > Any though

Re: [gentoo-dev] GCC USE flag changes

2013-04-30 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 05/01/2013 11:25 AM, Ryan Hill wrote: > Since people like to start whinging threads every time we have to change flags > on gcc this is a friendly notice of some upcoming changes. > [snip lots of good ideas] > > Any thoughts? I'm in favour of unleashing 4.8 in ~arch soon - I've been building

Re: [gentoo-dev] GNOME migrating from GConf to GSettings; effects on Gentoo?

2013-04-30 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:17:35PM -0400, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote > It impacts users who use stable keywords and are therefore stuck with > GNOME-2.32. The workaround is for affected users to switch to ~arch > keywords (note that GNOME-3.x ebuilds in ~arch get vastly more care and > attention f

Re: [gentoo-dev] GNOME migrating from GConf to GSettings; effects on Gentoo?

2013-04-30 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
On Tue, 2013-04-30 at 22:29 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > I was going to file a bug at bugzilla, but this looks like it's going > to involve virtually every GNOME-related app, so playing whack-a-mole is > going to be painfull. It'll have to be tackled higher up, which is why > I'm posting here. I

[gentoo-dev] GCC USE flag changes

2013-04-30 Thread Ryan Hill
Since people like to start whinging threads every time we have to change flags on gcc this is a friendly notice of some upcoming changes. I'm adding an "lto" flag to work around some issues we have with stabilization of 4.6 on alpha (though the flag will be added to all versions). I'm also going

[gentoo-dev] GNOME migrating from GConf to GSettings; effects on Gentoo?

2013-04-30 Thread Walter Dnes
I was going to file a bug at bugzilla, but this looks like it's going to involve virtually every GNOME-related app, so playing whack-a-mole is going to be painfull. It'll have to be tackled higher up, which is why I'm posting here. I apologize if there is a more correct way of reporting this.

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Shall econf append its arguments to end of ./configure invocation?

2013-04-30 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 12:12:13 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 05:30:03 + (UTC) > Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > > There's value in someone being just contrarian enough to purposefully > > look for the strangest or most illogical read of a spec and > > (initially) im

Re: [gentoo-dev] RANT: Upgrade icu and KDE at once

2013-04-30 Thread Zac Medico
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Jörg Schaible wrote: > The most annoying fact is, that none of this would have been necessary with > portage 2.2, but maybe we have to wait for 2.1.11.500 before 2.2 gets > stable... Since portage-2.1.11.20 [1], you can do this: echo 'FEATURES="${FEATURES} pre

Re: [gentoo-dev] RANT: Upgrade icu and KDE at once

2013-04-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > I haven't ran revdep-rebuild for a year, you can set > FEATURES="preserve-libs" which will preserve any libs, once libs are > being preserved you can then get rid of them by doing an `emerge > @preserved-rebuild` whenever you feel like as oppos

Re: [gentoo-dev] RANT: Upgrade icu and KDE at once

2013-04-30 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 18:51:06 +0200 Jörg Schaible wrote: > Well, here we go again! Again an update of Gentoo stable where emerge > tries to upgrade icu and KDE in one run (and this time additionally > libreoffice). If you don't want that to happen, use package sets and exclusion. > Other essenti

Re: [gentoo-dev] RANT: Upgrade icu and KDE at once

2013-04-30 Thread Michael Mol
On 04/30/2013 01:06 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Jörg Schaible wrote: >> The most annoying fact is, that none of this would have been necessary with >> portage 2.2, but maybe we have to wait for 2.1.11.500 before 2.2 gets >> stable... > > Actually, @preserved-rebuil

Re: [gentoo-dev] RANT: Upgrade icu and KDE at once

2013-04-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Jörg Schaible wrote: > The most annoying fact is, that none of this would have been necessary with > portage 2.2, but maybe we have to wait for 2.1.11.500 before 2.2 gets > stable... Actually, @preserved-rebuild is supported in the current stable portage. It jus

[gentoo-dev] RANT: Upgrade icu and KDE at once

2013-04-30 Thread Jörg Schaible
Well, here we go again! Again an update of Gentoo stable where emerge tries to upgrade icu and KDE in one run (and this time additionally libreoffice). Other essential libraries (e.g. libpng) can always be updated, because the ebuild preserves the old shared libs and let me run revdep-rebuild ag

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Shall econf append its arguments to end of ./configure invocation?

2013-04-30 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 15:25:08 +0200 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Tue, 30 Apr 2013, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > Below is a patch that brings the spec in line with common sense. > > And in fact, I wonder why we're even discussing the issue. > Paludis was fixed already more than a year ago: > ht

Re: [gentoo-pms] Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Shall econf append its arguments to end of ./configure invocation?

2013-04-30 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 15:13:25 +0200 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > \item[econf] Calls the program's \t{./configure} script. This is > designed to work with GNU Autoconf-generated scripts. Any additional > parameters passed to \t{econf} are passed directly > -to \t{./configure}. \t{econf} will look in

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Shall econf append its arguments to end of ./configure invocation?

2013-04-30 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > Below is a patch that brings the spec in line with common sense. And in fact, I wonder why we're even discussing the issue. Paludis was fixed already more than a year ago: http://git.exherbo.org/paludis/paludis.git/commit/?id=ad2ae2ba3b6fc8f11363

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Shall econf append its arguments to end of ./configure invocation?

2013-04-30 Thread Ulrich Mueller
Below is a patch that brings the spec in line with common sense. Ulrich >From 34023bdee8fb9b60e6a91e1f340bef5c97f07e05 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: =?UTF-8?q?Ulrich=20M=C3=BCller?= Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 14:59:15 +0200 Subject: [PATCH] econf arguments override default options. This matches l

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Shall econf append its arguments to end of ./configure invocation?

2013-04-30 Thread Duncan
Rich Freeman posted on Tue, 30 Apr 2013 08:40:50 -0400 as excerpted: > I think PMS has been a great thing for Gentoo, but we shouldn't treat > changing it like changing the TCP spec. Thanks. += -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Shall econf append its arguments to end of ./configure invocation?

2013-04-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > Another analogy would be that these people are human versions of the > kernel's trinity fuzz tester... Requirements generally are not intended to be defensible to fuzz testing, or completely determinate. Rather, they're inten

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Shall econf append its arguments to end of ./configure invocation?

2013-04-30 Thread Duncan
Ciaran McCreesh posted on Tue, 30 Apr 2013 12:12:13 +0100 as excerpted: > On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 05:30:03 + (UTC) > Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: >> There's value in someone being just contrarian enough to purposefully >> look for the strangest or most illogical read of a spec and (initial

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Shall econf append its arguments to end of ./configure invocation?

2013-04-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 13:42:22 +0200 > "viv...@gmail.com" wrote: >> Now, is it possible to alter the behaviour of paludis to act, still >> following the specs, in a way compatible with portage and which seem >> more logical to the majority o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Shall econf append its arguments to end of ./configure invocation?

2013-04-30 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 13:42:22 +0200 "viv...@gmail.com" wrote: > Now, is it possible to alter the behaviour of paludis to act, still > following the specs, in a way compatible with portage and which seem > more logical to the majority of people writing this thread? Sure, and as an added bonus, we c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Shall econf append its arguments to end of ./configure invocation?

2013-04-30 Thread viv...@gmail.com
On 04/30/13 13:12, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 05:30:03 + (UTC) > Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: >> There's value in someone being just contrarian enough to purposefully >> look for the strangest or most illogical read of a spec and >> (initially) implement it that way,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Shall econf append its arguments to end of ./configure invocation?

2013-04-30 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 05:30:03 + (UTC) Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > There's value in someone being just contrarian enough to purposefully > look for the strangest or most illogical read of a spec and > (initially) implement it that way, in ordered to root out and get the > bugs in the

[gentoo-dev] New USE_EXPANDs for uWSGI: UWSGI_LANGUAGES, UWSGI_PLUGINS and plans for uwsgi-2

2013-04-30 Thread Tiziano Müller
Hi everyone, the new versions of uwsgi (1.9+) support even more languages/platforms and plugins. Currently we do everything with common USE flags and build-in many plugins since we didn't want to expose them right from the start to the user (the selection is based on upstreams base configuration)