Re: [gentoo-dev] About how many spaces a tab represents

2013-04-14 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 15-04-2013 a las 07:21 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 23:22:04 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > I noticed this problem now that joe was modified to comply with this > > rule set in devmanual: > > http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/file-format/index.html#indent

Re: [gentoo-dev] About how many spaces a tab represents

2013-04-14 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 23:22:04 +0200 Pacho Ramos wrote: > I noticed this problem now that joe was modified to comply with this > rule set in devmanual: > http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/file-format/index.html#indenting-and-whitespace > > It stated a tab represents 4 spaces. Where does t

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2013-04-14 23h59 UTC

2013-04-14 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2013-04-14 23h59 UTC. Removals: sys-fs/device-mapper2013-04-09 09:50:27 ssuominen games-engines/gambatte 2013-04-13 21:19:06 hasufell Additions: a

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc: pt_chown setuid going away by default

2013-04-14 Thread James Cloos
> "JR" == Jeroen Roovers writes: JR> On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:08:10 -0400 JR> Mike Frysinger wrote: >> that you remember. i think it's more likely you copy & pasted some >> line a long time ago than baselayout modified it for you. JR> Exactly, but where did that come from? If it didn't com

Re: [gentoo-dev] About how many spaces a tab represents

2013-04-14 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sun, 14 Apr 2013, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 23:22:04 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: >> It stated a tab represents 4 spaces. Where does this rule come from? >> Why 8 spaces wasn't chosen instead? I say that because looks like 8 >> spaces equivalence is used by tools like "c

[gentoo-dev] OT: was Re: bash-3.1 stable

2013-04-14 Thread Gregory M. Turner
On 4/2/2013 10:54 AM, Duncan wrote: Tho in practice, if you're here long you do develop a rather thick hide. Nothing NEAR what it was a few years ago, tho. Before it gets anywhere near that, there's warnings, these days. Kinda just what happens, when you put a bunch of unpaid, sleep-deprived,

Re: [gentoo-dev] About how many spaces a tab represents

2013-04-14 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 23:22:04 +0200 Pacho Ramos wrote: > I noticed this problem now that joe was modified to comply with this > rule set in devmanual: > http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/file-format/index.html#indenting-and-whitespace > > It stated a tab represents 4 spaces. Where does th

[gentoo-dev] About how many spaces a tab represents

2013-04-14 Thread Pacho Ramos
I noticed this problem now that joe was modified to comply with this rule set in devmanual: http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/file-format/index.html#indenting-and-whitespace It stated a tab represents 4 spaces. Where does this rule come from? Why 8 spaces wasn't chosen instead? I say that

Re: [gentoo-dev] mono-env.eclass: new eclass to be used by most of dotnet packages

2013-04-14 Thread Zac Medico
On 04/14/2013 02:59 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > El dom, 14-04-2013 a las 11:45 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: >> On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 11:40:03 +0200 >> Pacho Ramos wrote: >> >>> # >=mono-0.92 versions using mcs -pkg:foo-sharp require shared memory, so >>> we set the >>> # shared dir to ${T} so that ${

Re: [gentoo-dev] Opportunities to use slot operators

2013-04-14 Thread Zac Medico
On 04/14/2013 06:09 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > Also, I'm sure I've used the portage API in less-than-ideal ways. > Having not really used it before this was half a learning exercise. > Feel free to send me suggestions/pointers. If somebody knows of an > easy way to process metadata in python (short

[gentoo-dev] OpenRC is now on github

2013-04-14 Thread William Hubbs
All, per lu_zero's request yesterday, OpenRC now has an organization and a repository on github [1] [2]. For now, we are still using gentoo's bugzilla for bugs, but this should ease collaboration on the project. If you want to be added to the team, please email me privately with your github user

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCHES] kernel-2.eclass: Various changes requested by users. + [STABLEREQ?] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.8.7: Any objections against stabilizing?

2013-04-14 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 14-04-2013 a las 19:15 +0200, Andreas K. Huettel escribió: > Am Sonntag, 14. April 2013, 12:06:48 schrieb Pacho Ramos: > > > > The messages are shown the first time by elog *and* saved > > in /usr/share/doc/*/README.gentoo, adding the advantage of users having > > that docs always present

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCHES] kernel-2.eclass: Various changes requested by users. + [STABLEREQ?] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.8.7: Any objections against stabilizing?

2013-04-14 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 14. April 2013, 12:06:48 schrieb Pacho Ramos: > > The messages are shown the first time by elog *and* saved > in /usr/share/doc/*/README.gentoo, adding the advantage of users having > that docs always present without needing to re-emerge the package or > manually read ebuilds How abou

Re: [gentoo-dev] Opportunities to use slot operators

2013-04-14 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 14. April 2013, 15:09:13 schrieb Rich Freeman: > For whoever is interested I tossed together a script to identify > packages that would immediately benefit from slot operator > dependencies but which are not doing so. > > The list can be found at: > http://dev.gentoo.org/~rich0/misseds

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Cleaning up PMS to have ${D} not end with a slash

2013-04-14 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 17:39:44 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 16:58:07 +0200 > Michał Górny wrote: > > On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 15:22:42 +0100 > > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 23:23:57 +0200 > > > Michał Górny wrote: > > > > As most of you probably doesn't know

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Cleaning up PMS to have ${D} not end with a slash

2013-04-14 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 16:58:07 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 15:22:42 +0100 > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 23:23:57 +0200 > > Michał Górny wrote: > > > As most of you probably doesn't know, PMS guarantees that ${D} > > > always ends with a slash. It seems that t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCHES] kernel-2.eclass: Various changes requested by users. + [STABLEREQ?] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.8.7: Any objections against stabilizing?

2013-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 14/04/2013 12:52, Tom Wijsman wrote: > If people don't agree with this apporach, we may want to solve the > actual problem in a different manner; one could write `eselect elog` > just like we have `eselect news`, that would force them to process > through the log messages and just not simply ign

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Cleaning up PMS to have ${D} not end with a slash

2013-04-14 Thread Michał Górny
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 16:14:57 +0200 hasufell wrote: > On 04/13/2013 11:23 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > Your thoughts? > > > > Sounds ok, but how will the transition happen exactly? Will the > behavior just change for new EAPIs or for all? If for al

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Cleaning up PMS to have ${D} not end with a slash

2013-04-14 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 15:22:42 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 23:23:57 +0200 > Michał Górny wrote: > > As most of you probably doesn't know, PMS guarantees that ${D} always > > ends with a slash. It seems that this particular wording was enforced > > by historical portage behav

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Cleaning up PMS to have ${D} not end with a slash

2013-04-14 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 23:23:57 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > As most of you probably doesn't know, PMS guarantees that ${D} always > ends with a slash. It seems that this particular wording was enforced > by historical portage behavior (instead of fixing the ebuilds...) yet > it didn't ever get really

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Cleaning up PMS to have ${D} not end with a slash

2013-04-14 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/13/2013 11:23 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > Your thoughts? > Sounds ok, but how will the transition happen exactly? Will the behavior just change for new EAPIs or for all? If for all, who will do the tinderbox run? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Ver

[gentoo-dev] Re: Opportunities to use slot operators

2013-04-14 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 14/04/2013 23:09, Rich Freeman wrote: For whoever is interested I tossed together a script to identify packages that would immediately benefit from slot operator dependencies but which are not doing so. The list can be found at: http://dev.gentoo.org/~rich0/missedslotops.txt This was generat

[gentoo-dev] Opportunities to use slot operators

2013-04-14 Thread Rich Freeman
For whoever is interested I tossed together a script to identify packages that would immediately benefit from slot operator dependencies but which are not doing so. The list can be found at: http://dev.gentoo.org/~rich0/missedslotops.txt This was generated by: https://github.com/rich0/finddepslot

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Cleaning up PMS to have ${D} not end with a slash

2013-04-14 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 13:32:29 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > There you can find at least my rough estimates of how many ebuilds > are directly affected. Shortly saying, if we fix PMS, we need to fix, > say, 200 ebuilds. If we leave it as is, we have around 1750 obviously > broken ebuilds + over 3000

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Cleaning up PMS to have ${D} not end with a slash

2013-04-14 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 23:23:57 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > As most of you probably doesn't know, PMS guarantees that ${D} always > ends with a slash. It seems that this particular wording was enforced > by historical portage behavior (instead of fixing the ebuilds...) yet > it didn't ever get reall

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH eutils] Support recursive operation in edos2unix.

2013-04-14 Thread Peter Stuge
Michał Górny wrote: > > > Any thoughts? > > > > If doing this at all I think it should take an -r option to enable > > the new recursion, for symmetry with the do* functions and for > > backwards compatibility. > > Backwards compatibility with what? With the old non-recursive behavior of edos2un

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCHES] kernel-2.eclass: Various changes requested by users. + [STABLEREQ?] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.8.7: Any objections against stabilizing?

2013-04-14 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 12:06:48 +0200 Pacho Ramos wrote: > The messages are shown the first time by elog *and* saved > in /usr/share/doc/*/README.gentoo, adding the advantage of users > having that docs always present without needing to re-emerge the > package or manually read ebuilds How are users

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH eutils] Support recursive operation in edos2unix.

2013-04-14 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 12:37:05 +0200 Peter Stuge wrote: > Michał Górny wrote: > > Any thoughts? > > If doing this at all I think it should take an -r option to enable > the new recursion, for symmetry with the do* functions and for > backwards compatibility. Backwards compatibility with what? --

Re: [gentoo-dev] mono-env.eclass: new eclass to be used by most of dotnet packages

2013-04-14 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 12:25:27 +0200 Pacho Ramos wrote: > El dom, 14-04-2013 a las 12:08 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > > On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 11:59:14 +0200 > > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > > > El dom, 14-04-2013 a las 11:45 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > > > > On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 11:40:03 +0200 >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH eutils] Support recursive operation in edos2unix.

2013-04-14 Thread Peter Stuge
Michał Górny wrote: > Any thoughts? If doing this at all I think it should take an -r option to enable the new recursion, for symmetry with the do* functions and for backwards compatibility. //Peter

Re: [gentoo-dev] mono-env.eclass: new eclass to be used by most of dotnet packages

2013-04-14 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 14-04-2013 a las 12:08 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 11:59:14 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > El dom, 14-04-2013 a las 11:45 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > > > On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 11:40:03 +0200 > > > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > > > > > # >=mono-0.92 versions using

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Cleaning up PMS to have ${D} not end with a slash

2013-04-14 Thread Peter Stuge
Michał Górny wrote: > Your thoughts? +1 pgp1yo32f0xoD.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] mono-env.eclass: new eclass to be used by most of dotnet packages

2013-04-14 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 11:59:14 +0200 Pacho Ramos wrote: > El dom, 14-04-2013 a las 11:45 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > > On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 11:40:03 +0200 > > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > > > # >=mono-0.92 versions using mcs -pkg:foo-sharp require shared memory, so > > > we set the > > > # shared

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCHES] kernel-2.eclass: Various changes requested by users. + [STABLEREQ?] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.8.7: Any objections against stabilizing?

2013-04-14 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 14-04-2013 a las 04:08 -0600, Ryan Hill escribió: > On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 10:23:00 +0200 > "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > > > Am Sonntag, 14. April 2013, 10:24:18 schrieb Ryan Hill: > > > > > > Personally I think that the entire idea of only displaying messages on the > > > first install is

Re: [gentoo-dev] mono-env.eclass: new eclass to be used by most of dotnet packages

2013-04-14 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 14-04-2013 a las 11:45 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 11:40:03 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > # >=mono-0.92 versions using mcs -pkg:foo-sharp require shared memory, so > > we set the > > # shared dir to ${T} so that ${T}/.wapi can be used during the install > > pr

Re: [gentoo-dev] mono-env.eclass: new eclass to be used by most of dotnet packages

2013-04-14 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 14-04-2013 a las 11:45 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 11:40:03 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > # >=mono-0.92 versions using mcs -pkg:foo-sharp require shared memory, so > > we set the > > # shared dir to ${T} so that ${T}/.wapi can be used during the install > > pr

[gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCHES] kernel-2.eclass: Various changes requested by users. + [STABLEREQ?] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.8.7: Any objections against stabilizing?

2013-04-14 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 10:23:00 +0200 "Andreas K. Huettel" wrote: > Am Sonntag, 14. April 2013, 10:24:18 schrieb Ryan Hill: > > > > Personally I think that the entire idea of only displaying messages on the > > first install is completely asinine. What exactly is the benefit? Were > > users compla

Re: [gentoo-dev] mono-env.eclass: new eclass to be used by most of dotnet packages

2013-04-14 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 11:40:03 +0200 Pacho Ramos wrote: > # >=mono-0.92 versions using mcs -pkg:foo-sharp require shared memory, so we > set the > # shared dir to ${T} so that ${T}/.wapi can be used during the install > process. > export MONO_SHARED_DIR="${T}" Don't use ${T} in global scope. And

[gentoo-dev] mono-env.eclass: new eclass to be used by most of dotnet packages

2013-04-14 Thread Pacho Ramos
Due reasons explained here: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=462052#c1 We would like to start a process of simplifying dotnet maintained eclasses a lot because they are currently really hard to maintain. As a start point, we will need a simple eclass simply to export some variables needed t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCHES] kernel-2.eclass: Various changes requested by users. + [STABLEREQ?] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.8.7: Any objections against stabilizing?

2013-04-14 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 14-04-2013 a las 02:24 -0600, Ryan Hill escribió: > On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 08:55:39 +0200 > Tom Wijsman wrote: > > > On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 23:09:05 -0600 > > Ryan Hill wrote: > > > > > > > - Make use of readme.gentoo.eclass to make the user aware of the > > > > Gentoo Linux Kernel Upgrade G

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCHES] kernel-2.eclass: Various changes requested by users. + [STABLEREQ?] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.8.7: Any objections against stabilizing?

2013-04-14 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 14-04-2013 a las 08:55 +0200, Tom Wijsman escribió: > On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 23:09:05 -0600 > Ryan Hill wrote: > > > > > - Make use of readme.gentoo.eclass to make the user aware of the > > > Gentoo Linux Kernel Upgrade Guide only the first time he emerges > > > the package. Fixes bug #45

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Cleaning up PMS to have ${D} not end with a slash

2013-04-14 Thread Gregory M. Turner
On 4/13/2013 2:23 PM, Michał Górny wrote: Your thoughts? +1, this causes untold agonies for my pet platform. See #465772 for more thorough griping :) -gmt

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: toolchain-funcs: target-has-split-usr API?

2013-04-14 Thread Gregory M. Turner
On 4/13/2013 9:56 PM, Ryan Hill wrote: On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:04:57 -0700 "Gregory M. Turner" wrote: What do people think of something like this? Obviously the equivalent patch to prefix would need to include a test for PREFIX_DISABLE_GEN_USR_LDSCRIPT: Author: Gregory M. Turner Date: Fri

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCHES] kernel-2.eclass: Various changes requested by users. + [STABLEREQ?] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.8.7: Any objections against stabilizing?

2013-04-14 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 14. April 2013, 10:24:18 schrieb Ryan Hill: > > Personally I think that the entire idea of only displaying messages on the > first install is completely asinine. What exactly is the benefit? Were > users complaining that we were being too helpful and they'd like us to > hide important

[gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCHES] kernel-2.eclass: Various changes requested by users. + [STABLEREQ?] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.8.7: Any objections against stabilizing?

2013-04-14 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 08:55:39 +0200 Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 23:09:05 -0600 > Ryan Hill wrote: > > > > > - Make use of readme.gentoo.eclass to make the user aware of the > > > Gentoo Linux Kernel Upgrade Guide only the first time he emerges > > > the package. Fixes bug #457598