Re: [gentoo-dev] What did we achieve in 2012? What are our resolutions for 2013?

2013-01-06 Thread Ben de Groot
On 5 January 2013 07:28, Sebastian Pipping wrote: > Coming to my mind: > > > There have been continued regular releases of genkernel integrating > patches from various people: > http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/genkernel.git;a=tags > > And there has been a constant stream of people as

Re: [gentoo-dev] DNSSEC (w/ DLV) live on *.dev.gentoo.org

2013-01-06 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 1/6/13 5:31 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > Just a heads up, > > DNSSEC is now live on *.dev.gentoo.org hosts. Wow, that sounds pretty cool to me! This could be a nice news: "Gentoo one of the first to deploy DNSSEC" - what do you think? :) Paweł signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

[gentoo-dev] Re: About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2013-01-06 Thread Duncan
Michael Mol posted on Sun, 06 Jan 2013 20:36:00 -0500 as excerpted: > If we had README.gentoo, I'd love it if Portage alerted me as those > files changed. That should be simple enough, provided that the files are installed with a package. Simply config-protect README.gentoo, and you'd deal with

Re: [gentoo-dev] DNSSEC (w/ DLV) live on *.dev.gentoo.org

2013-01-06 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > Just a heads up, > > DNSSEC is now live on *.dev.gentoo.org hosts. So for those that had to look up some or all of what Robin mentioned, I'll summarize below. > > There is a DLV anchor registered at dlv.isc.org, so all public DNSSEC > loo

Re: [gentoo-dev] GCC 4.6 stabilization

2013-01-06 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 01/06/2013 08:22 PM, Ryan Hill wrote: This is way past due so I'd like to get 4.6 into stable. There are hardly any blockers on bug #418383 which makes me go "?!", so if anyone knows of any issues please let us know. I was actually thinking of poking you about this. I've been using 4.6 o

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2013-01-06 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/06/2013 05:36 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > > On Jan 6, 2013 8:32 PM, "Zac Medico" > wrote: >> >> On 01/06/2013 01:04 AM, Ralph Sennhauser wrote: >> > On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 23:34:59 -0600 >> > Donnie Berkholz mailto:dberkh...@gentoo.org>> > wrote: >> > >> >> On 10:26 Sat

[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages with optional test dependencies

2013-01-06 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 11:38:42 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > a) depend on all optional test dependencies conditionally to USE=test, >therefore always requesting the widest (and consistent) testing, We also need to be more strict about making sure testsuites pass and fixing them (or disabling them

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2013-01-06 Thread Michael Mol
On Jan 6, 2013 8:32 PM, "Zac Medico" wrote: > > On 01/06/2013 01:04 AM, Ralph Sennhauser wrote: > > On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 23:34:59 -0600 > > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > > >> On 10:26 Sat 22 Dec , Pacho Ramos wrote: > >>> Hello > >>> > >>> After seeing: > >>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?i

[gentoo-dev] DNSSEC (w/ DLV) live on *.dev.gentoo.org

2013-01-06 Thread Robin H. Johnson
Just a heads up, DNSSEC is now live on *.dev.gentoo.org hosts. There is a DLV anchor registered at dlv.isc.org, so all public DNSSEC lookups within the domain should work fine. Here's visualisation on my two test cases: http://dnsviz.net/d/dev.gentoo.org/dnssec/ http://dnsviz.net/d/mv78100.arm.d

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2013-01-06 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/06/2013 01:04 AM, Ralph Sennhauser wrote: > On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 23:34:59 -0600 > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > >> On 10:26 Sat 22 Dec , Pacho Ramos wrote: >>> Hello >>> >>> After seeing: >>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440214 >>> >>> Looking to a lot of its blockers shows that we

[gentoo-dev] GCC 4.6 stabilization

2013-01-06 Thread Ryan Hill
This is way past due so I'd like to get 4.6 into stable. There are hardly any blockers on bug #418383 which makes me go "?!", so if anyone knows of any issues please let us know. -- gcc-porting toolchain, wxwidgetslearn a language baby, it's that kind of place @ gentoo.org

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2013-01-06 23h59 UTC

2013-01-06 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2013-01-06 23h59 UTC. Removals: mail-client/pine2013-01-04 08:55:25 eras Additions: media-video/pgcedit 2012-12-31 00:46:07 vapier dev-pyth

Re: [gentoo-dev] Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...)

2013-01-06 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 1/4/13 9:47 PM, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > I did much of the design work nearly 2 years ago: > > http://dev.gentoo.org/~dberkholz/gentoo_website/gentoo_landing_black.png > http://dev.gentoo.org/~dberkholz/gentoo_website/gentoo_landing_install.png > http://dev.gentoo.org/~dberkholz/gentoo_website/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...)

2013-01-06 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 01/05/2013 12:47 AM, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > Some early work on it using Bootstrap: > > http://a3li.li/~alex/g.o/ > I really like this. The (admittedly kind-of ugly) logo and the flying saucer thing are incorporated tastefully and it makes a big difference. The zebra tables, and especial

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages with optional test dependencies

2013-01-06 Thread Matthew Thode
On 01/06/2013 06:56 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > I forgot to mention that (a) is what the Ruby team has been doing up > to now -- it feels a bit more cumbersome in some cases, but it's > definitely easier to spot the problems from the start than finding > them months after adding the package of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please guys use checkpath in init scripts

2013-01-06 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 1/6/13 8:30 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > I just gave a quick look at the init scripts installed on the tinderbox, > and the amount of them that use mkdir to create the directories in /run > and similar is astounding. > > Please check `man runscript` and use the checkpath helper instead. Sho

[gentoo-dev] Please guys use checkpath in init scripts

2013-01-06 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
I just gave a quick look at the init scripts installed on the tinderbox, and the amount of them that use mkdir to create the directories in /run and similar is astounding. Please check `man runscript` and use the checkpath helper instead. Thanks, -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flame

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages with optional test dependencies

2013-01-06 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
I forgot to mention that (a) is what the Ruby team has been doing up to now -- it feels a bit more cumbersome in some cases, but it's definitely easier to spot the problems from the start than finding them months after adding the package of the tree. Especially if you change your mind and decide t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages with optional test dependencies

2013-01-06 Thread hasufell
I agree with "a". A problem with "b" is: the user might install one of those "optional dependencies" later, but that will not trigger a rebuild of the other package and another run through the test phase. I would find "c" a bit confusing. The most elegant way would probably be to trigger a remerge

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages with optional test dependencies

2013-01-06 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Go for a. The widest and more consistent the testing, the better. Otherwise the day after tomorrow you'll get a bug from me that with $foo installed, $bar fails tests. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Michał Górny

[gentoo-dev] Packages with optional test dependencies

2013-01-06 Thread Michał Górny
Hello, There are some Python packages which have a bunch of optional tests utilizing external packages. For example, the dev-python/logilab-common runs a few additional tests if dev-python/egenix-mx-base is installed; if the package is not installed, it just skips those tests. Those tests can't b

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using a CONFIGURATION (or SETUP) file under /usr/share/doc for configuration information

2013-01-06 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 23:34:59 -0600 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 10:26 Sat 22 Dec , Pacho Ramos wrote: > > Hello > > > > After seeing: > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440214 > > > > Looking to a lot of its blockers shows that we are using "elog" > > messages for informing people ab

Re: [gentoo-dev] Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...)

2013-01-06 Thread Aaron Bauman
On Saturday 05 January 2013 15:29:05 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Alec Warner wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > >> Even if you're not a business you should care about maintainable > >> solutions. > > > > I'm sure at the time it was c