Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Sylvain Alain wrote: > Hi all, about the Mdev stuff, Slashbeast from Funtoo.org started that > project a while ago. > > https://github.com/slashbeast/mdev-like-a-boss > > I think that it's actually working pretty good on his box. > > Some Coredevs from Funtoo are

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs: app-editors/xemacs and app-xemacs/*

2012-07-13 Thread Hans de Graaff
If you are looking to pick up ~130 packages in one quick move, then wait no longer and add yourself to the xemacs herd! You'll get app-editors/xemacs and all the packages in app-xemacs/* You will inherit a few open bugs, but nothing high priority. XEmacs editor and package release happen quite in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Graham Murray
"Walter Dnes" writes: > On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 01:49:32AM +0300, Maxim Kammerer wrote >> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Richard Yao wrote: >> > mdev would need to switch to the netlink hotplug interface. >> >> I think that's quite unlikely, since mdev is not a daemon. Perhaps by >> the time

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Sylvain Alain
Hi all, about the Mdev stuff, Slashbeast from Funtoo.org started that project a while ago. https://github.com/slashbeast/mdev-like-a-boss I think that it's actually working pretty good on his box. Some Coredevs from Funtoo are actually running with that stuff. Sylvain 2012/7/13 William Hubbs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev

2012-07-13 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 08:13:43PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 01:49:32AM +0300, Maxim Kammerer wrote > > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Richard Yao wrote: > > > mdev would need to switch to the netlink hotplug interface. > > > > I think that's quite unlikely, since mde

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: [snip] > A lot of that is optional. The only hard dependencies are: > >>=sys-apps/kmod-5 >>=sys-apps/util-linux-2.20 > dev-util/gperf >>=dev-util/intltool-0.40.0 > virtual/pkgconfig > virtual/os-headers > > Everything else is optional. I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 03:41:36AM +0300, Maxim Kammerer wrote >>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 3:13 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: >>> > Do you realize this would effectively kill linux in the embedd

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Olivier Crête wrote: > And on any new embedded platform, one should seriously think about using > systemd too. It is very lean, replaces most of the giant, unmaintainable > shellscripts that you find in many devices with smaller compiled code, > and was designed to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 03:41:36AM +0300, Maxim Kammerer wrote >> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 3:13 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: >> > Do you realize this would effectively kill linux in the embedded >> > device area? Udev, even without the systemd code,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 03:41:36AM +0300, Maxim Kammerer wrote > On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 3:13 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > Do you realize this would effectively kill linux in the embedded > > device area? Udev, even without the systemd code, is simply to large > > for embedded devices. > > What's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Olivier Crête
On Fri, 2012-07-13 at 21:10 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 08:40:20PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote > > > I'll venture a guess the solution will be to create a shim daemon > > which turns around and launches udev. > > A quicker-and-dirtier solution would be to create a shim daem

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 08:40:20PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote > >> I'll venture a guess the solution will be to create a shim daemon >> which turns around and launches udev. > > A quicker-and-dirtier solution would be to create a shim daemon th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 08:40:20PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote > I'll venture a guess the solution will be to create a shim daemon > which turns around and launches udev. A quicker-and-dirtier solution would be to create a shim daemon that runs under the the name "udev", and passes all calls to /s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 3:13 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: > Do you realize this would effectively kill linux in the embedded > device area? Udev, even without the systemd code, is simply to large > for embedded devices. What's “too large”? Udev already looks pretty small to me (116k udevd, 50k libudev

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 01:49:32AM +0300, Maxim Kammerer wrote >> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Richard Yao wrote: >> > mdev would need to switch to the netlink hotplug interface. >> >> I think that's quite unlikely, since mdev is not a da

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 01:49:32AM +0300, Maxim Kammerer wrote >> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Richard Yao wrote: >> > mdev would need to switch to the netlink hotplug interface. >> >> I think that's quite unlikely, since mdev is not a da

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 01:49:32AM +0300, Maxim Kammerer wrote > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Richard Yao wrote: > > mdev would need to switch to the netlink hotplug interface. > > I think that's quite unlikely, since mdev is not a daemon. Perhaps by > the time /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug is go

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Richard Yao wrote: > mdev would need to switch to the netlink hotplug interface. I think that's quite unlikely, since mdev is not a daemon. Perhaps by the time /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug is gone, mdev advocates will have settled on some early udev fork. [1] [1] h

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Richard Yao
On 07/13/2012 04:04 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 05:58:25AM +, Duncan wrote > >> They're seriously thinking about (and may be planning on) removing >> that option from the kernel entirely, to keep people configuring >> their first kernels from getting themselves in trouble,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev

2012-07-13 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 05:58:25AM +, Duncan wrote > They're seriously thinking about (and may be planning on) removing > that option from the kernel entirely, to keep people configuring > their first kernels from getting themselves in trouble, but of course > that's now part of the kernel/use

[gentoo-dev] Last rite: app-misc/jbidwatcher

2012-07-13 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
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Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: udev-rules.eclass

2012-07-13 Thread William Hubbs
All, mgorny has written a patch for udev, which if it gets accepted, will make it read rules from /lib/udev/rules.d, so there will be nothing that we need to do on our side at all. William pgpBzeeg8CYM1.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] inittab with SIGPWR support

2012-07-13 Thread James Cloos
> "DEP" == Diego Elio Pettenò writes: DEP> They _are_ deprecated after all. >> >> Where is that documented? DEP> man inittab Not here. (/usr/share/man/man5/inittab.5.bz2 from sys-apps/sysvinit-2.88-r3.) -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: using array variables in qt4-r2.eclass

2012-07-13 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:26:58 +0200 Davide Pesavento wrote: > > [...] > >> + # backward compatibility for non-array variables > >> + if [[ -n ${DOCS} ]] && [[ "$(declare -p DOCS 2>/dev/null > >> 2>&1)" != "declare -a"* ]]; then > >> + dodoc ${DOCS} || die "dodoc failed" > >> +

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: using array variables in qt4-r2.eclass

2012-07-13 Thread Davide Pesavento
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 20:02:19 +0800 > Ben de Groot wrote: > >> --- /usr/portage/eclass/qt4-r2.eclass 2012-04-20 >> 07:01:13.0 +0800 +++ qt4-r2.eclass.new2012-07-13 >> 19:45:59.259773917 +0800 @@ -19,6 +19,22 @@ >> >> export

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: using array variables in qt4-r2.eclass

2012-07-13 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 20:02:19 +0800 Ben de Groot wrote: > --- /usr/portage/eclass/qt4-r2.eclass 2012-04-20 > 07:01:13.0 +0800 +++ qt4-r2.eclass.new2012-07-13 > 19:45:59.259773917 +0800 @@ -19,6 +19,22 @@ > > export XDG_CONFIG_HOME="${T}" > > +# @ECLASS-VARIABLE: DOCS > +# @DEF

[gentoo-dev] RFC: using array variables in qt4-r2.eclass

2012-07-13 Thread Ben de Groot
Hi, We'd like to start using array variables for DOCS and HTML_DOCS in qt4-r2.eclass, as they are already more widely used in other eclasses. Please check the attached diff and let us know what you think. Thanks on behalf of the Qt team! -- Cheers, Ben | yngwin Gentoo developer Gentoo Qt projec

Re: [gentoo-dev] inittab with SIGPWR support

2012-07-13 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il 13/07/2012 13:48, Tobias Klausmann ha scritto: > You seem to have a different version than I do: Sorry wrong man, it was man init: Usage of SIGPWR and /etc/powerstatus is discouraged. Someone wanting to interact with init should use the /dev/initctl control channel - see the source code

Re: [gentoo-dev] inittab with SIGPWR support

2012-07-13 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Thu, 12 Jul 2012, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > > DEP> They _are_ deprecated after all. > > > > Where is that documented? > > man inittab You seem to have a different version than I do: $ equery f sysvinit|xargs grep -i deprecated 2>/dev/null $ equery f sysvinit|xargs bzgrep -i deprecated

Re: [gentoo-dev] dev-libs/ffcall is looking for a new maintainer

2012-07-13 Thread Bernard Cafarelli
Le 12/07/2012 16:12, Samuli Suominen a écrit : On 07/11/2012 04:36 PM, Bernard Cafarelli wrote: This package historically belongs to the gnustep herd, but ffcall support in gnustep has been deprecated for some time now in favor of libffi (in fact the USE-flag may go away soon) Also, I do not ha