Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-02 Thread Graham Murray
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn writes: > My point is that packages can cause downgrades through "<" dependencies. > There is no rule against it. Nearly all of which prevent the upgrade of the dependent package rather forcing the downgrade of an already installed package.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-02 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 10/2/11 8:26 PM, Arun Raghavan wrote: > Removing the package again seems to just be unnecessary when the > maintainer has stated that he'll fix the problem. Would masking it > till it was fixed not suffice? Seems like a bit unjustified to me > (from information on this thread alone). I find the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-02 Thread Arun Raghavan
On 2 October 2011 13:50, Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 10/02/2011 02:44 AM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: [...] >> Bug 361181 is certainly on my TODO list, just not very high up to now. >> If you think that there is some urgency in getting rid of the package, >> please do explain so in advance

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 00:31 Mon 03 Oct , Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > It may be obvious to you, but it certainly is not obvious to me why > linux-headers downgrade is so bad. If vapier's unsupported out-of-tree > software fails to build against old linux-headers, then he has to make > sure to have the co

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2011-10-02 23h59 UTC

2011-10-02 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2011-10-02 23h59 UTC. Removals: media-sound/gnomeradio 2011-09-30 19:34:47 ssuominen media-tv/xdtv 2011-09-30 19:36:11 ssuominen net-im/qutecom

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-02 Thread malc
Really... it took me less time to chuck the new-videodev.patch from [1] into src_prepare() and compile-test than it did to read the noise in this thread... :) HTH, malc. [1] http://patch-tracker.debian.org/package/qutecom/2.2.1+dfsg1-2

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-02 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Samuli Suominen schrieb: >>> Poor example to make a case. >> >> VIDEO_CARDS is just for user convenience. run "emerge nvidia-drivers" on >> any system with xorg-server-1.11 installed and it will downgrade, no >> matter what VIDEO_CARDS is set to. > > And your point is? My point is that packages c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 10/03/2011 12:37 AM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > Samuli Suominen schrieb: > >>> And again, downgrade of dependencies it is not against any rule which >>> would justify mask and removal. >>> >>> Another example from the X.org packages, installing the proprietary >>> ATI/NVidia drivers

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-02 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Samuli Suominen schrieb: >> And again, downgrade of dependencies it is not against any rule which >> would justify mask and removal. >> >> Another example from the X.org packages, installing the proprietary >> ATI/NVidia drivers will cause downgrades for xorg-server on ~arch >> systems. Nobody in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 10/02/2011 11:40 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > Mike Frysinger schrieb: >> the system is functioning wrongly because you're forcing users to needlessly >> upgrade/downgrade packages. in addition, packages in the tree aren't the >> only >> things to be considered. if the user is b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-02 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Mike Frysinger schrieb: > the system is functioning wrongly because you're forcing users to needlessly > upgrade/downgrade packages. in addition, packages in the tree aren't the > only > things to be considered. if the user is building code that works fine > against > the latest stable, but

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday, October 02, 2011 16:00:30 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > I agree that a downgrade is a bit inconvenient for users. But if another > package is built later with DEPEND on newer linux-headers or emerge > --deep option, then it will get upgraded again. As no package runtime > depends

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-02 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Mike Frysinger schrieb: > On Sunday, October 02, 2011 08:58:19 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: >> Samuli Suominen schrieb: Please point to existing authoritative documentation which says that downgrades are unacceptable. > It is NOT gentoo-x86 compatible package in it's curre

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday, October 02, 2011 08:58:19 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > Samuli Suominen schrieb: > >> Please point to existing authoritative documentation which says that > >> downgrades are unacceptable. > >> > >>> It is NOT gentoo-x86 compatible package in it's current form. > >> > >> It set

Re: [gentoo-dev] FEATURES="stricter" as a default in developer profile not the best idea

2011-10-02 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 9/17/11 5:42 PM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > TLDR: Let's remove FEATURES="stricter" from developer profile, I bet > most people have it disabled anyway and it doesn't seem useful. This is now done. Nobody complained and there was +1 from Rafael Martins. Enjoy a more usable developer profile!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-02 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Samuli Suominen schrieb: >> Please point to existing authoritative documentation which says that >> downgrades are unacceptable. >> >>> It is NOT gentoo-x86 compatible package in it's current form. >> >> It sets correct dependency on an existing ebuild in tree. The dependency >> is only build time,

[gentoo-dev] Heads up with linux-headers >= 2.6.38 stabilization (#384733)

2011-10-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
People using stable, are welcomed to join the effort in http://bugs.gentoo.org/384733 We have finished reviewing the bugs, that blocked the linux-headers tracker bug but as Diego's tinderbox doesn't run on stable, but on ~arch, it's very hard to track down everything So on your stable system, try

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-portage/cfg-update

2011-10-02 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 10/02/2011 03:26 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Markos Chandras > wrote: >> # Markos Chandras (01 Oct 2011) # >> Unmaintained. Plenty of open bugs ( 219892, 230183, 303199 ). # >> Replaced by dispatch-conf and/or etc-u

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 10/02/2011 02:44 AM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > Samuli Suominen schrieb: >> On 10/01/2011 08:02 PM, Chi-Thanh Christopher Nguyen (chithanh) wrote: >>> chithanh11/10/01 17:02:59 >>> >>> Added:metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild >>> Log: >>> Bri

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Candidates for global USE flags

2011-10-02 Thread James Broadhead
On 2 October 2011 03:57, Ryan Hill wrote: > On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 11:19:26 +0300 > Samuli Suominen wrote: > >> >    17   tools >> >     9   utils >> >> tools, and utils, what's the difference? perhaps pick one and unify them >> into global USE flag > > Saying what?  "Install optional tools or utili