Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-11 Thread Kumba
Duncan wrote: Kumba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Mon, 11 Jun 2007 21:25:14 -0400: It's competition, at the core. No one likes draws, ties, or even photo finishes, let alone losing. They like to win, and win by a large margin. If someone tries to slip the

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-11 Thread Duncan
Matthias Langer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Mon, 11 Jun 2007 22:10:52 +0200: > On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 19:01 +0200, Alexander Gabert wrote: [snipped] > if you came to the conclusion, that ciaranm is some kind of ultra-nasty > troll, then why is it so hard for

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-11 Thread Duncan
Kumba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Mon, 11 Jun 2007 21:25:14 -0400: > It's competition, at the core. No one likes draws, ties, or even photo > finishes, let alone losing. They like to win, and win by a large > margin. If someone tries to slip the last word

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-11 Thread Kumba
Brian Harring wrote: Guess I'll be the killjoy, and throw in the -1 on it. Reasons are pretty straightforward (at least to me): 1) Creating such channels is just attempting to shift the problem out of sight. Not out of sight, just to an arena where it is more suitable. When I joined Gento

Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

2007-06-11 Thread Rémi Cardona
For the sake of adding something interesting : The gnome herd has unmasked Gnome 2.18 for all arches except arm, alpha and fbsd. Mart (leio) has updated the current stable Gnome to 2.16.3 which should be available on all supported stable arches. Either way, enjoy. Rémi -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mai

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-11 Thread Steve Long
Kent Fredric wrote: > On 6/12/07, Alexander Gabert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> There are others like him and there will be others after him. There >> were even people doing that before him. > As with trolls, theres more where they came for, but that doesn't make > gentoo-ML 'different' to as to

Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

2007-06-11 Thread Bernard Cafarelli
While I was too young a developer when this thread first appeared, I now have a few things to report in this relaunch ;) On the NX servers side: * servers based on NX 2.1 code are now in portage, including the binary free edition from Nomachine (the NX developers), and freenx 0.6 * both of these

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-11 Thread Wernfried Haas
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 01:42:40PM -0700, Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote: > That statement presumes that gentoo-politics will not be read. > I don't think this is (or should be) true. It's also based on the fact that people still read all the crap on gentoo-dev. Newsflash: They don't. cheers,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-11 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:27:44 -0600 > Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> PS. this thread is a good example of something that would belong on >> gentoo-project. ;) >> > > And this is why it's a bad idea: it's moving criticism away from where > people will actua

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-11 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/12/07, Alexander Gabert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There are others like him and there will be others after him. There were even people doing that before him. As with trolls, theres more where they came for, but that doesn't make gentoo-ML 'different' to as to how we slay a troll. I agr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-11 Thread Matthias Langer
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 19:01 +0200, Alexander Gabert wrote: > The person has personally attacked me after i simply concluded that he > should maybe change his attitude to make a better impression on > gentoo-dev and Gentoo developers. This guy is trolling for years and he > enjoys and knows it a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-11 Thread George Prowse
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:27:44 -0600 Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: PS. this thread is a good example of something that would belong on gentoo-project. ;) And this is why it's a bad idea: it's moving criticism away from where people will actually read it. And that's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-11 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:01:15 +0200 Alexander Gabert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What a stupid prick. All he had to do is aggravate. And he still > does. For someone who claims to want to improve the quality of discussion on gentoo-dev list, you're certainly going out of your way to drag it down

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-11 Thread Alexander Gabert
Kent Fredric schrieb: ... So you are saying that the person is not the problem but the problem is the problem. The person has personally attacked me after i simply concluded that he should maybe change his attitude to make a better impression on gentoo-dev and Gentoo developers. This guy i

Re: [gentoo-dev] irregular metdata.xml check

2007-06-11 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 01:41:30AM +0200, Thilo Bangert wrote: > Herds with no email > === > > As robbat2 points out, in order to allow for automatic bug assignment all > herds need to have an email address. The following herds do not have an > email address specified in herds.xm

Re: [gentoo-dev] [gentoo-java] Last rites: dev-java/jdbc-mssqlserver

2007-06-11 Thread Vlastimil Babka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vlastimil Babka wrote: > +# Vlastimil Babka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (10 Jun 2007) > +# Outdated version, proprietary binary package, library that nothing in > tree > +# uses. Still generation-1. Assuming nobody needs it as there was never a > +# version bu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-11 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/12/07, Alexander Gabert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A Philosophy I picked up in a Politics chat room, was discuss problems & issues, not people. People in said room were repremanded for discussing others either directly or indirectly whether or not said persons were present ( this did exc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-11 Thread Alexander Gabert
lol owned :) Alex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-11 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 14:35:42 +0200 Alexander Gabert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, you cannot expect me as a developer to listen to your > continued rants and the problems you are creating. I am not creating problems. I am pointing them out, in the hopes that people will work to find soluti

Re: [gentoo-dev] merging man page documentation into eclasses

2007-06-11 Thread Joshua Nichols
Mike Frysinger wrote: > keeping documentation of functions in a separate file (man pages in this > case) > has obvious bit rot problems written all over it, so i'd like to merge the > documentation into the respective eclasses so that the man pages can be > automatically generated > For the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-11 Thread Alexander Gabert
CAUTION: You are wasting your time reading this. You are currently wasting my time because i had to write this. You are also wasting the time of every other developer or ML reader who is reading this. You may start wasting even more time of you, me and others putting more oil into this fire.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-11 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:30:13 +0200 Alexander Gabert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And this is why it's a bad idea: it's moving criticism away from > > where people will actually read it. > > > IMHO it is moving criticism away from where people will actually NOT > read it. > Get a life and stop

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-11 Thread Alexander Gabert
Ciaran McCreesh schrieb: On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:27:44 -0600 Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: PS. this thread is a good example of something that would belong on gentoo-project. ;) And this is why it's a bad idea: it's moving criticism away from where people will actually read it.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: How to help an ebuild move along

2007-06-11 Thread Matti Bickel
Christian Faulhammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Olivier Galibert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > So my question is, what could I do to help having it end up in the > > official package database? > > Become a developer. From the looks of it, there's already a gentoo developer on it. Please help Flammi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-11 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:27:44 -0600 Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > PS. this thread is a good example of something that would belong on > gentoo-project. ;) And this is why it's a bad idea: it's moving criticism away from where people will actually read it. -- Ciaran McCreesh signature.

[gentoo-dev] Re: How to help an ebuild move along

2007-06-11 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Olivier Galibert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > So my question is, what could I do to help having it end up in the > official package database? Become a developer. Or you could maintain it in Sunrise, which is a good place for such packages, which also means a level of QA for the ebuild itself. V-Li -

[gentoo-dev] How to help an ebuild move along

2007-06-11 Thread Olivier Galibert
I've had decided to do an ebuild for praat[1] as my first contribution. I checked in bugzilla just in case there was one added recently, and I found out there was one since two years and half[2], regularly kept up to date even. So my question is, what could I do to help having it end up in the of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-06-10 23h59 UTC

2007-06-11 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 07:52:19AM +0200, R??mi Cardona wrote: > Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > Removals: > > media-fonts/liberation-fonts-ttf2007-06-04 18:17:12 je_fro > > media-fonts/liberation-fonts-ttf2007-06-05 01:31:21 je_fro > > > > Additions: > > media-fonts/liberation-fonts-t

Re: [gentoo-dev] irregular metdata.xml check

2007-06-11 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 11:26:27AM +0300, Petteri R??ty wrote: > Marijn Schouten (hkBst) kirjoitti: > > Thilo Bangert wrote: > >> is a herd1300 > > These seem intentional. Is there anything wrong with it? > Yes. You use the element to mark herds. I do see a valid usage cas

Re: [gentoo-dev] irregular metdata.xml check

2007-06-11 Thread Petteri Räty
Marijn Schouten (hkBst) kirjoitti: > Thilo Bangert wrote: >> is a herd1300 > > These seem intentional. Is there anything wrong with it? > > Marijn Yes. You use the element to mark herds. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] irregular metdata.xml check

2007-06-11 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thilo Bangert wrote: > is a herd1300 These seem intentional. Is there anything wrong with it? Marijn -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.o