Re: [gentoo-dev] a new TLP to "unify" programming langiages?

2006-10-11 Thread Matthew Kennedy
George Shapovalov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > What I propose is to create a TLP page for "Gentoo Programming Resources" (or > pick your name) and move all the individual languages into the subdirs of it. > Any opinions? If I get any "yay's" or no "nays" I'll create a bug about it > and

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Alon Bar-Lev (alonbl)

2006-10-11 Thread Michael Cummings
On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 08:35 -0700, Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote: > Eldad Zack wrote: > > Christian Heim wrote: > >> Its my pleasure to introduce to you Alon "alonbl" Bar-Lev, the latest > >> addition joining to help out with the crypto herd. > >> > >> He hails from Israel (hrm, they don't have c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42?

2006-10-11 Thread Stephen Bennett
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 22:08:31 +0100 "Stuart Herbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We use space-delimited USE flags everywhere else. It would make a lot > of sense to keep it consistent here. We also use space-delimited depend atoms everywhere else. It makes no sense to break that when a comma wor

Re: [gentoo-dev] Livecd, python, pyopengl and broken gtk installer

2006-10-11 Thread Steev Klimaszewski
Dominique Michel wrote: > It seam at it is a big problem with the livecd. > >>From the forum: > QUOTE: The problem is you can't use the GTK installer due to this problem. It > crashes out and leaves you with no option but to wash, rinse, repeat, > re-crash. > > By saying they won't fix the bug

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42?

2006-10-11 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 22:08:31 +0100 "Stuart Herbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On 10/11/06, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > Spaces in dep atoms would be highly evil, since it'd mean they were | > no longer simply space delimited. Commas [foo,-bar,baz] would be | > fine... | | Writ

Re: [gentoo-dev] a new TLP to "unify" programming langiages?

2006-10-11 Thread Stuart Herbert
Hi George, On 10/11/06, George Shapovalov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi gang. As I looked for a place where to put some documentation naturally falling in a "project domain" for Ada, I realized that we have TLPs for many individual (programming) languages. First I though to ping some people on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42?

2006-10-11 Thread Stuart Herbert
On 10/11/06, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Spaces in dep atoms would be highly evil, since it'd mean they were no longer simply space delimited. Commas [foo,-bar,baz] would be fine... Write a better parser then :P We use space-delimited USE flags everywhere else. It would make a

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42?

2006-10-11 Thread Stuart Herbert
Hi Zac, This is all good news. On 10/11/06, Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2) Default USE flags at the ebuild and/or profile level [2]. This one would be very very useful for Seeds, if we can set per-ebuild USE flags at the profile level. Best regards, Stu -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mai

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: GLEP 42?

2006-10-11 Thread Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.-
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:52:08 -0400 (EDT) "Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.-" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | What's the point of all the square brackets? Is there some benefit | over just [foo -bar baz]? Spaces in dep atoms would be highly evil, since it'd

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42?

2006-10-11 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:52:08 -0400 (EDT) "Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.-" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | What's the point of all the square brackets? Is there some benefit | over just [foo -bar baz]? Spaces in dep atoms would be highly evil, since it'd mean they were no longer simply space delimited

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42?

2006-10-11 Thread Brian Harring
On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 03:52:08PM -0400, Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.- wrote: > On Wed, 11 Oct 2006, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > >On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:30:03 -0400 Chris Gianelloni > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >| On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 19:44 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >| > On Wed, 11 Oct 2

[gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42?

2006-10-11 Thread Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.-
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:30:03 -0400 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 19:44 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | > On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:36:16 -0500 Brian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > wrote: | > | > ${CATEGORY}/${PN}:${S

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42?

2006-10-11 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:30:03 -0400 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 19:44 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | > On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:36:16 -0500 Brian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > wrote: | > | > ${CATEGORY}/${PN}:${SLOT}. | > | | > | I thought we were eventually

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42?

2006-10-11 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 19:44 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:36:16 -0500 Brian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | > ${CATEGORY}/${PN}:${SLOT}. > | > | I thought we were eventually going to use that format to specify > | deps with specific USE set. > > That's [use]. I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Missing: Universal-CD - Gentoo discriminates shell and networkless users

2006-10-11 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 12:18 -0400, Caleb Cushing wrote: > I fear the idea that valid bugs may be closed do to a -march=i586. If they're a bug dealing with an issue only present on < i686, then yes, they likely would be, at least for release media, unless you also provide a patch. This is what bei

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42?

2006-10-11 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:36:16 -0500 Brian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > ${CATEGORY}/${PN}:${SLOT}. | | I thought we were eventually going to use that format to specify | deps with specific USE set. That's [use]. -- Ciaran McCreesh Mail: ciaranm at ciaranm.org Web

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42?

2006-10-11 Thread Danny van Dyk
Am Mittwoch, 11. Oktober 2006 20:36 schrieb Brian Jackson: > On Oct 11, 2006, at 12:37 PM, Zac Medico wrote: encies. > > * The world and system sets allow automatic update of all installed > > slots. > > * DEPEND atoms support SLOT dependencies of the form > > ${CATEGORY}/${PN}:${SLOT}. Yay! > I t

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42?

2006-10-11 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Zac Medico wrote: >> * DEPEND atoms support SLOT dependencies of the form >> ${CATEGORY}/${PN}:${SLOT}. > > No way, it happened!! > > So when can we start actually using this feature? We can either wait until several mon

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42?

2006-10-11 Thread Brian Jackson
On Oct 11, 2006, at 12:37 PM, Zac Medico wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stuart Herbert wrote: Whatever happened to the work to implement GLEP 42? Is there anyone actively working on this atm? It's been on my todo list, but I haven't gotten around to it yet due to othe

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42?

2006-10-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Zac Medico wrote: > * DEPEND atoms support SLOT dependencies of the form > ${CATEGORY}/${PN}:${SLOT}. No way, it happened!! So when can we start actually using this feature? Thanks, Donnie signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42?

2006-10-11 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stuart Herbert wrote: > Whatever happened to the work to implement GLEP 42? Is there anyone > actively working on this atm? It's been on my todo list, but I haven't gotten around to it yet due to other portage work that's kept me extremely busy. I h

Re: [gentoo-dev] a new TLP to "unify" programming langiages?

2006-10-11 Thread Duncan Coutts
On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 17:24 +0200, George Shapovalov wrote: > Hi gang. > > As I looked for a place where to put some documentation naturally falling in > a "project domain" for Ada, I realized that we have TLPs for many individual > (programming) languages. First I though to ping some people on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Missing: Universal-CD - Gentoo discriminates shell and networkless users

2006-10-11 Thread Caleb Cushing
I fear the idea that valid bugs may be closed do to a -march=i586. release media should not have to be tuned to i386. perhaps thes older machines shouldn't be a priority, but that doesn't mean they should become completely unsupported. if a general move to i686 is desired perhaps the archs should

[gentoo-dev] Re: Missing: Universal-CD - Gentoo discriminates shell and networkless users

2006-10-11 Thread Duncan
Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:46:05 +0200: > A couple of years ago (when we were still using gcc-2.95 I used to run > gentoo on my server machine which was a pentium-60 (with fdiv bug). While > it took a while to compile the

[gentoo-dev] Re: Missing: Universal-CD - Gentoo discriminates shell and networkless users

2006-10-11 Thread Duncan
Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Tue, 10 Oct 2006 12:24:21 -0400: > There's a difference between "support" and "ability". You will retain the > ability to install on < i686 machines. We just don't want to support it. > This means we aren't goin

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Alon Bar-Lev (alonbl)

2006-10-11 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Eldad Zack wrote: > Christian Heim wrote: >> Its my pleasure to introduce to you Alon "alonbl" Bar-Lev, the latest >> addition joining to help out with the crypto herd. >> >> He hails from Israel (hrm, they don't have cities down there ?). So >> far it looks like Alon is completely constrained to h

[gentoo-dev] a new TLP to "unify" programming langiages?

2006-10-11 Thread George Shapovalov
Hi gang. As I looked for a place where to put some documentation naturally falling in a "project domain" for Ada, I realized that we have TLPs for many individual (programming) languages. First I though to ping some people on irc, but, as I went down the page the noticed number became nontrivia

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42?

2006-10-11 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:59:59 +0100 Stuart Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Whatever happened to the work to implement GLEP 42? Is there anyone | actively working on this atm? There's a full implementation in Paludis. I believe Christel was working on backporting it to the legacy package manag

[gentoo-dev] GLEP 42?

2006-10-11 Thread Stuart Herbert
Hi, Whatever happened to the work to implement GLEP 42? Is there anyone actively working on this atm? Best regards, Stu -- -- Stuart Herbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Developer http://www.gentoo.org/