Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Sanchan

2005-12-10 Thread sanchan
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: Welcome Sandro :) Thanks Diego What scares me is the proportion of engineers... :P Why? -- Sandro -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Sanchan

2005-12-10 Thread sanchan
Luca Barbato wrote: the Italian conspiracy taking place? who knows ^^ Welcome =) Thanks! Have a lot of fun and beware of the rabid developer =) Ok :-) -- Sandro -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 (Critical news reporting) updates

2005-12-10 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Sunday 11 December 2005 10:35, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Whenever relevant unread news items are found, the package manager will > create a file named ``/var/lib/portage/news/news.unread`` (if it does not > already exist) and append the news item identifier (eg > ``2005-11-01-yoursql-updates``) o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42 (Critical news reporting) updates

2005-12-10 Thread Homer Parker
On Sat, 2005-12-10 at 22:31 -0500, Dan Meltzer wrote: > Point of Clarity, > > > and the ``mysql-5`` database format changes. > > These changes actually occured in mysql 4.1, not mysql-5 > > > * The sender's first name ends in 'an', and they are not me. Um, your first name ends in 'an' s

[gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42 (Critical news reporting) updates

2005-12-10 Thread Dan Meltzer
Point of Clarity, > and the ``mysql-5`` database format changes. These changes actually occured in mysql 4.1, not mysql-5 On 12/10/05, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Main changes since the previous edition: > > * File format tweaks. > > * Changes to the way relevance headers work

[gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 (Critical news reporting) updates

2005-12-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
Main changes since the previous edition: * File format tweaks. * Changes to the way relevance headers work to make it easy to do things like "show this to gcc-3.3 users on x86 or sparc". * News items are no longer copied. This makes it considerably easier to install news items -- there's no long

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X update

2005-12-10 Thread Ben Skeggs
Am Samstag, den 10.12.2005, 17:00 -0800 schrieb Donnie Berkholz: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ben Skeggs wrote: > | Am Freitag, den 09.12.2005, 23:12 + schrieb Donnie Berkholz: > | > |>2) Users with no X installed will pull in the virtual/x11 package > |>because there

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X update

2005-12-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ben Skeggs wrote: | Am Freitag, den 09.12.2005, 23:12 + schrieb Donnie Berkholz: | |>2) Users with no X installed will pull in the virtual/x11 package |>because there is no longer a default virtual. | | A user in #gentoo-amd64 ran into issues with

Re: [gentoo-dev] December Council Meeting

2005-12-10 Thread Lance Albertson
Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 08:05:40PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >>On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 19:40:59 + Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>wrote: >>| there's no point in bringing it back to the council in the current >>| form as we're just likely to approve it again >> >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Sanchan

2005-12-10 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Saturday 10 December 2005 23:09, Luca Barbato wrote: > the Italian conspiracy taking place? Would also be time :P Welcome Sandro :) What scares me is the proportion of engineers... :P -- Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò - http://dev.gentoo.org/~flameeyes/ Gentoo/ALT lead, Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, AMD

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X update

2005-12-10 Thread Ben Skeggs
Am Freitag, den 09.12.2005, 23:12 + schrieb Donnie Berkholz: > 2) Users with no X installed will pull in the virtual/x11 package > because there is no longer a default virtual. A user in #gentoo-amd64 ran into issues with this that I reproduced in a chroot. On a new install, with no X install

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Sanchan

2005-12-10 Thread Luca Barbato
Mike Doty wrote: "I live in Italy on the river of the lake of Como in a small country of less than 200 inhabitants. the Italian conspiracy taking place? who knows ^^ Welcome =) Have a lot of fun and beware of the rabid developer =) lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gent

Re: [gentoo-dev] December Council Meeting

2005-12-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 08:05:40PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 19:40:59 + Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | there's no point in bringing it back to the council in the current > | form as we're just likely to approve it again > > So the council is aware of

Re: [gentoo-dev] December Council Meeting

2005-12-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 19:40:59 + Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | there's no point in bringing it back to the council in the current | form as we're just likely to approve it again So the council is aware of all the shortcomings and impossibilities with the GLEP in its current form, a

Re: [gentoo-dev] December Council Meeting

2005-12-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 06:21:20PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 13:07:19 -0500 Dan Meltzer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | On 12/10/05, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | > On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 23:49:59 + Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > | > wrote: > | > |

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Sanchan

2005-12-10 Thread sanchan
Mike Doty wrote: Please take a minute and welcome our newest developer, Sandro Bonazzola. Sanchan has joined to help with the embedded team. I'll let him introduce himself. Thanks Mike! -- Sandro -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Sanchan

2005-12-10 Thread sanchan
Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: Yay - a fellow embedded developer - welcome :) Will you be joining the embedded team or the dev-embedded team? Thanks for the welcome! Probably I'll join dev-embedded, I was working on TinyOS related ebuilds when dragonheart mentored me. -- Sandro -- gentoo-dev

Re: [gentoo-dev] December Council Meeting

2005-12-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 13:07:19 -0500 Dan Meltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On 12/10/05, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 23:49:59 + Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > wrote: | > | current agenda: | > | none ?! | > | > How about a decision on what's to be do

Re: [gentoo-dev] December Council Meeting

2005-12-10 Thread Dan Meltzer
On 12/10/05, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 23:49:59 + Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | current agenda: > | none ?! > > How about a decision on what's to be done to fix the GLEP 41 mess? glep 41 was approved... people ranted, it fell off the maps

Re: [gentoo-dev] December Council Meeting

2005-12-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 23:49:59 + Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | current agenda: | none ?! How about a decision on what's to be done to fix the GLEP 41 mess? -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (I can kill you with my brain) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web

Re: [gentoo-dev] December Council Meeting

2005-12-10 Thread Marius Mauch
Sven Vermeulen wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 11:15:15AM +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: No, I mean the mail I sent to council@ a few weeks ago (relating to an earier -dev thread). Oh, the tree signing stuff. Got it. Sorry. Nope, not the signing stuff ;) But some update on that would be nice t

Re: [gentoo-dev] The deal with epkgmove

2005-12-10 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 05:29:09PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 16:56:55 +0100 Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | wrote: | | I'd suggest having a look at git or mercurial, they are tested on a | | quite big workload and they seems good enough for the task. | | Workload isn'

Re: [gentoo-dev] The deal with epkgmove

2005-12-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 16:56:55 +0100 Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | I'd suggest having a look at git or mercurial, they are tested on a | quite big workload and they seems good enough for the task. Workload isn't the issue. It's number of files. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (I

Re: [gentoo-dev] The deal with epkgmove

2005-12-10 Thread Dan Meltzer
Gcc has also moved to subversion... On 12/10/05, Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 11 December 2005 00:56, Luca Barbato wrote: > > svn so far was good but I don't know which big projects had it deployed. > > KDE uses subversion, depending on what you call big of course. > > -- > J

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Sanchan

2005-12-10 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 10:51:49AM -0600, Mike Doty wrote: > Please take a minute and welcome our newest developer, Sandro Bonazzola. > Sanchan has joined to help with the embedded team. I'll let him > introduce himself. Yay - a fellow embedded developer - welcome :) Will you be joining the emb

Re: [gentoo-dev] The deal with epkgmove

2005-12-10 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Sunday 11 December 2005 00:56, Luca Barbato wrote: > svn so far was good but I don't know which big projects had it deployed. KDE uses subversion, depending on what you call big of course. -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] New Developer: Sanchan

2005-12-10 Thread Mike Doty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 All- Please take a minute and welcome our newest developer, Sandro Bonazzola. Sanchan has joined to help with the embedded team. I'll let him introduce himself. "I live in Italy on the river of the lake of Como in a small country of less than 200 i

Re: [gentoo-dev] The deal with epkgmove

2005-12-10 Thread Benoit Boissinot
On 12/10/05, Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kurt Lieber wrote: > > > CVS may not be the new, shiny kid on the block, but it's been very stable, > > presented few problems and, in general, has served us well over the past 5+ > > years. Folks tend to point at the fancy bells and whistles

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild suggestion: texmaker

2005-12-10 Thread Alexandre Buisse
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 12:41:53PM -0200, Herbert Lists wrote: > Hi, > > A great software that would be fun to have on Gentoo is texmaker. > > http://www.xm1math.net/texmaker/ Actually, it's already in portage (and have been for some time). It was even bumped to the latest qt4 version a few days

Re: [gentoo-dev] The deal with epkgmove

2005-12-10 Thread Caleb Tennis
> As for moving packages by hand vs. using a tool, that's not really infra's > call. If you were asking about CVS vs. SVN, I have been and remain > opposed > to using SVN for gentoo-x86 until someone can offer a whole lot of > assurances around SVN's ability to manage a repo of our size. (1.3GB,

Re: [gentoo-dev] The deal with epkgmove

2005-12-10 Thread Caleb Tennis
> As for moving packages by hand vs. using a tool, that's not really infra's > call. If you were asking about CVS vs. SVN, I have been and remain > opposed > to using SVN for gentoo-x86 until someone can offer a whole lot of > assurances around SVN's ability to manage a repo of our size. (1.3GB,

Re: [gentoo-dev] The deal with epkgmove

2005-12-10 Thread Luca Barbato
Kurt Lieber wrote: CVS may not be the new, shiny kid on the block, but it's been very stable, presented few problems and, in general, has served us well over the past 5+ years. Folks tend to point at the fancy bells and whistles that other VCS offer, but they don't always stop to consider the s

Re: [gentoo-dev] December Council Meeting

2005-12-10 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 11:15:15AM +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: > No, I mean the mail I sent to council@ a few weeks ago (relating to an > earier -dev thread). Oh, the tree signing stuff. Got it. Sorry. Wkr, Sven Vermeulen -- Gentoo Foundation Trustee | http://foundation.gento

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild suggestion: texmaker

2005-12-10 Thread Lares Moreau
Heya, I don't know how this program pased under my radar. I'm a TeX geek. I have my local repository for my overlay. I'll start it and post as I go. I anyone wants access to my svn email me off list. On Sat, 2005-12-10 at 12:41 -0200, Herbert Lists wrote: > Hi, > > A great software that woul

Re: [gentoo-dev] The deal with epkgmove

2005-12-10 Thread Kurt Lieber
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 11:52:33AM + or thereabouts, Ian Leitch wrote: > For the time being and near future, I think moves should be done by hand. > > What are your thoughts on this, infra? As for moving packages by hand vs. using a tool, that's not really infra's call. If you were asking ab

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild suggestion: texmaker

2005-12-10 Thread Dan Meltzer
bugs.gentoo.org http://dev.gentoo.org/~plasmaroo/devmanual/ http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ebuild-submit.xml not gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org On 12/10/05, Herbert Lists <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > A great software that would be fun to have on Gentoo is texmaker. > > http://www.xm1math.net/

[gentoo-dev] ebuild suggestion: texmaker

2005-12-10 Thread Herbert Lists
Hi,   A great software that would be fun to have on Gentoo is texmaker.   http://www.xm1math.net/texmaker/   I don't know how to help on get this ebuild on Gentoo but I can try to help with this one if you guys tell me how.   Thanks,   Herbert

[gentoo-dev] The deal with epkgmove

2005-12-10 Thread Ian Leitch
For those who aren't devs; epkgmove is a tool to move and rename packages around in CVS. It lives here: [1] As it stands currently, epkgmove is likely to mess up the tree for anything but simple package moves/renames with only a couple of minor deps. The code is hideous, and needs a rewrite.

Re: [gentoo-dev] New x86 developer: Joshua Jackson

2005-12-10 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 11:09:50AM +0100, Bryan Østergaard wrote: > Joshua Jackson (tsunam) just joined the x86 arch team and will be > helping with stabling packages on x86 and solving x86 related bugs. Yay! Finally :) > Joshua have been participating in Bugday for a long time and it's nice > to

Re: [gentoo-dev] New x86 developer: Joshua Jackson

2005-12-10 Thread Jakub Moc
10.12.2005, 11:09:50, Bryan �stergaard wrote: > Added to the > menagerie are 3 fish, 2 bird and a hamster. Hey, so that was you who stole jforman's hamsters during bugzie upgrade and broke the thing? :P Welcome... ;) -- jakub pgp3AC7XoWZMa.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] December Council Meeting

2005-12-10 Thread Marius Mauch
Sven Vermeulen wrote: On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 01:56:37AM +0100, Marius Mauch wrote: current agenda: decision on multi-hash for Manifest1 You mean the Manifest2 GLEP, or did I miss something? No, I mean the mail I sent to council@ a few weeks ago (relating to an earier -dev thread). Ma

[gentoo-dev] New x86 developer: Joshua Jackson

2005-12-10 Thread Bryan Østergaard
Hi all. Joshua Jackson (tsunam) just joined the x86 arch team and will be helping with stabling packages on x86 and solving x86 related bugs. Joshua have been participating in Bugday for a long time and it's nice to finally see him become a developer. Here's how Joshua introduces himself: "Lets

Re: [gentoo-dev] December Council Meeting

2005-12-10 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 01:56:37AM +0100, Marius Mauch wrote: > > current agenda: > decision on multi-hash for Manifest1 You mean the Manifest2 GLEP, or did I miss something? Wkr, Sven Vermeulen -- Gentoo Foundation Trustee | http://foundation.gentoo.org Gentoo Documentation

Re: [gentoo-dev] Looking for jack maintainers

2005-12-10 Thread Eldad Zack
On Thursday 08 December 2005 14:43, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > Seems like the jack support in sound team started to be unavailable lately, > kito is full of other tasks and he's the only one, as far as I can see, > who's taking are of Jack. > > As I have no idea where to start looking for i