Re: [gentoo-dev] imlate x86 Editon and more x86 fun

2005-08-11 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 11:15:17PM -0400, Olivier Cr?te wrote: > After Ciaran's comment on -core, I wondered how imlate would fare on > x86. For those who are not familiar with it, imlate list all packages on > one architecture that are outdated compared to another architecture. All > other archite

Re: [gentoo-dev] imlate x86 Editon and more x86 fun

2005-08-11 Thread Chris White
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 23:15:17 -0400 Olivier Crête <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We really need to form an x86 team... > > -- > Olivier Crête > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > x86 Security Liaison I really do agree with not only this, but the need for stable marking as well. Gentoo is very bleeding edge a

Re: [gentoo-dev] X modular migration howto

2005-08-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: | I started a brief migrating to modular X howto, on popular demand. | Comments and additions would be appreciated. | | It's at | http://dev.gentoo.org/~spyderous/xorg-x11/migrating_to_modular_x_howto.txt I just updated it to t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 11/08/2005-21:06:34(-0700): Donnie Berkholz types > Georgi Georgiev wrote: > | As you can see, it's the "static" in the end of the line. Maybe you > | should grep for "-static" instead. > > | - To avoid eventual problems with similarly named libraries (libpam and > | libpam_misc for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Georgi Georgiev wrote: | As you can see, it's the "static" in the end of the line. Maybe you | should grep for "-static" instead. | - To avoid eventual problems with similarly named libraries (libpam and | libpam_misc for example; grepping for

Re: [gentoo-dev] X modular migration howto

2005-08-11 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 12/08/2005-07:16:10(+1000): Ben Skeggs types > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >I started a brief migrating to modular X howto, on popular demand. > >Comments and additions would be appreciated. > > > > > Just a quick note for any brave

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 11/08/2005-16:05:02(-0700): Donnie Berkholz types > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > Attached an update to incorporate this and your other grep comments. > > Here's a new one. It prints some useful information while it's > searching, like OK or Not found!. Also fixes a little more ugly output >

[gentoo-dev] imlate x86 Editon and more x86 fun

2005-08-11 Thread Olivier Crête
Hi, After Ciaran's comment on -core, I wondered how imlate would fare on x86. For those who are not familiar with it, imlate list all packages on one architecture that are outdated compared to another architecture. All other architectures use x86 as a reference.. That clearly didn't work for us. S

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-11 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Thursday 11 August 2005 21:26, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thursday 11 August 2005 07:02 am, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > On Thursday 11 August 2005 09:04, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > On Wednesday 10 August 2005 07:56 pm, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > > > I was referring to compiler version. Portage FEATURE

Re: [gentoo-dev] portage-2.1_alpha20050718 out

2005-08-11 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Friday 12 August 2005 02:26, Marius Mauch wrote: > Hi, > > For all those drooling over their keyboards after reading this topic, > please also read the rest of this mail. > So yes, finally a portage-2.1 pre-pre-pre-alpha version is out and in > the tree (p.masked). However, it's not the 2.1 that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Attached an update to incorporate this and your other grep comments. Here's a new one. It prints some useful information while it's searching, like OK or Not found!. Also fixes a little more ugly output (double/single quotes a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Ferris McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 11 Aug 2005, Donnie Berkholz wrote: --[PinePGP]--[begin]-- Ferris McCormick wrote: I'm happy with libGL; I just reverted the ebuild to be as it started, but to define a sparc-specific set of d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ferris McCormick wrote: > I'm happy with libGL; I just reverted the ebuild to be as it started, > but to define a sparc-specific set of dri drivers. All my problems came > from my mistaken belief that mesa would still build cleanly using the > sparc as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Georgi Georgiev wrote: > Why not pull these greps out of the loop? No need to do the *same* thing > for every library. Or did you forget to mention $libname in there? My rationale was that over the course of a compilation, both shared and static libs

Re: [gentoo-dev] X modular migration howto

2005-08-11 Thread Ben Skeggs
Donnie Berkholz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I started a brief migrating to modular X howto, on popular demand. Comments and additions would be appreciated. Just a quick note for any brave amd64 users who might want to try this, it seems that something isn't quite ri

[gentoo-dev] X modular migration howto

2005-08-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I started a brief migrating to modular X howto, on popular demand. Comments and additions would be appreciated. It's at http://dev.gentoo.org/~spyderous/xorg-x11/migrating_to_modular_x_howto.txt Thanks, Donnie -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: G

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 11/08/2005-11:58:31(-0700): Donnie Berkholz types > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > Here's a slightly better version: > > And here's the enhanced, scripted version. It traces libs back to their > packages to really make things easy. > > Seems to work quite well. > > Thanks, > Donnie > echo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Ferris McCormick
On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 12:25 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ferris McCormick wrote: > > Notice, however, that the mesa ebuild does not seem to install the dri > > drivers anyplace. I suppose they should go > > into /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 11/08/2005-21:11:35(+0200): Jan Spitalnik types > Dne čt 11. srpna 2005 20:58 Donnie Berkholz napsal(a): > > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > > Here's a slightly better version: > > > > And here's the enhanced, scripted version. It traces libs back to their > > packages to really make things eas

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jan Spitalnik wrote: > as it should be equivalent. You'd think so, but consider this case: Package A provides foo.so Package B provides foo.a Package C links against both Thanks, Donnie -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ferris McCormick wrote: > Notice, however, that the mesa ebuild does not seem to install the dri > drivers anyplace. I suppose they should go > into /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers, but the don't. It seems that the > ebuild uses mesa's 'installmesa' sc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Jan Spitalnik
Dne čt 11. srpna 2005 20:58 Donnie Berkholz napsal(a): > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > Here's a slightly better version: > > And here's the enhanced, scripted version. It traces libs back to their > packages to really make things easy. you can replace (starting line 37) if $(grep ' \-l[a-zA-Z

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Ferris McCormick
On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 11:02 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > And why is this a good thing? I'm adamantly against building the non-glx > > libGL here for standard use, and I will continue to oppose it. Be normal > > peopl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Here's a slightly better version: And here's the enhanced, scripted version. It traces libs back to their packages to really make things easy. Seems to work quite well. Thanks, Donnie -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: G

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > And why is this a good thing? I'm adamantly against building the non-glx > libGL here for standard use, and I will continue to oppose it. Be normal > people and do the same thing as everybody else in the world who's ever > used

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ferris McCormick wrote: > 3. With USE=-dri, for testing purposes (and in the end, perhaps for > performance reasons as well), it seems better to change the make target > to HOSTCONF=linux-sparc, and let user's CFLAGS define the architecture. > When yo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Ferris McCormick
On Wed, 2005-08-10 at 17:46 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ferris McCormick wrote: > | It always makes sense to enable glx (Mesa) whether there is DRI support > | or not; some applications can run adequately well using the > | Mesa-indirect appr

[gentoo-dev] portage-2.1_alpha20050718 out

2005-08-11 Thread Marius Mauch
Hi, For all those drooling over their keyboards after reading this topic, please also read the rest of this mail. So yes, finally a portage-2.1 pre-pre-pre-alpha version is out and in the tree (p.masked). However, it's not the 2.1 that some of you might expect as it doesn't have a new dep resolver

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proper commit messages

2005-08-11 Thread Drake Wyrm
Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > also, four tabs rule I prefer single-character tabs. (0x09) -- I used to think romantic love was a neurosis shared by two, a supreme foolishness. I no longer thought that. There's nothing foolish in loving anyone. Thinking you'll be loved in return is

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-11 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:03:13 -0400 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 11 August 2005 09:40 am, Marius Mauch wrote: > > If you read it again you'll notice the {pre,post} part ;) > > IIRC that's already in HEAD for /etc/portage/bashrc, so extending > > it to $PORTDIR shouldn't b

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-11 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 11 August 2005 09:40 am, Marius Mauch wrote: > On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 08:26:49 -0400 > > Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday 11 August 2005 07:02 am, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > > With noman and the like, how's the following for a solution? A lot > > > of the ebuild funct

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-11 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 08:26:49 -0400 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 11 August 2005 07:02 am, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > With noman and the like, how's the following for a solution? A lot > > of the ebuild functions contained within portage will be moving > > into the tree once

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-11 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 11 August 2005 07:02 am, Jason Stubbs wrote: > On Thursday 11 August 2005 09:04, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Wednesday 10 August 2005 07:56 pm, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > > I was referring to compiler version. Portage FEATURES are not a > > > guaranteed part of an ebuild's "shell". Let me

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Ferris McCormick
On Wed, 2005-08-10 at 17:46 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ferris McCormick wrote: > | It always makes sense to enable glx (Mesa) whether there is DRI support > | or not; some applications can run adequately well using the > | Mesa-indirect appr

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have "doc" USE flag, why not a "man" USE flag too

2005-08-11 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Thursday 11 August 2005 09:04, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 10 August 2005 07:56 pm, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > On Thursday 11 August 2005 00:39, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > On Wednesday 10 August 2005 11:24 am, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > > > On Wednesday 10 August 2005 22:19, Ciaran McCreesh

Re: [gentoo-dev] Put DESCRIPTION HOMEPAGE and LICENSE in another place

2005-08-11 Thread Marius Mauch
Carlos Silva wrote: I know that portage team is closed for new features :) but this just came to my mind just 5 minutes ago and seemed good enought to try. Let's just think that portage handles 5 version of package foo and foo has "http://www.foo.org"; and homepage, "GPL-v2" license and "foo jus

Re: [gentoo-dev] Put DESCRIPTION HOMEPAGE and LICENSE in another place

2005-08-11 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Thursday 11 August 2005 07:23, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > Another alternative would also be to reduce the number of the files in the > tree. (Merging digests and manifests would shave off ~20k files, converting > the metadata cache files into large single files would shave off another > ~20k). Wh

Re: [gentoo-dev] Put DESCRIPTION HOMEPAGE and LICENSE in another place

2005-08-11 Thread Julien Allanos
Quoting Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Christian Parpart wrote: On Thursday 11 August 2005 02:04, Carlos Silva wrote: [...] What do you think of this? I once asked for a better place (namely metadata.xml), but got corrected with the following reason: HOMEPAGE/LICENSE/DESCRIPTION might c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: | A few updates: | | I'm working on a Mesa ebuild to add; this will provide the gl.h | everyone's been complaining about missing. My dev box is really screwy | because of orphaned files, things lying around from CVS, etc, so I |

Re: [gentoo-dev] Release files/portage snapshots auxiliary files naming scheme

2005-08-11 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 00:11 +0300, Marius Mauch wrote: > Not against unification, but using the snapshot format would probably be > the easier way, as emerge-webrsync (and maybe other tools) need at > least the md5sum files for verification. And while changing that is > trivial, deploying that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: | Per-Erik Westerberg wrote: | | Ubuntu "Breezy" has also problems with the "fixed" font when I updated | | it, the "fonts.alias" file is missing from the "/usr/share/fonts/misc" | | directory, maybe it is the same problem that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Georgi Georgiev wrote: | maillog: 10/08/2005-23:01:30(-0700): Donnie Berkholz types |>Needing to set ModulePath at all in a standard installation is broken. |>This shouldn't need to be in a configuration file; none of the tools I'm |>aware of generate

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 10/08/2005-23:01:30(-0700): Donnie Berkholz types > Georgi Georgiev wrote: > | Hm, why not just forget the transition, stick a warning telling people > | to add > | > | ModulesPath "/usr/lib/modules" > | ModulesPath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules" > > Needing to set ModulePath at all in a standar