Re: [gentoo-dev] rash of elibtoolize failures and you

2005-05-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 13 May 2005 01:00 am, Mike Frysinger wrote: > if you have any questions, or you think your package is special (everyone > does), feel free to pipe up now and ask for a 3rd party review to make everyones' lives easier (well just mine really), if you want me to review your package and you

[gentoo-dev] rash of elibtoolize failures and you

2005-05-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
as some may have noticed, a lot of packages have suddenly started aborting with messages such as: * Patching ${S}/ltmain.sh ... * Portage patch failed to apply (ltmain.sh version 1.3.4)! !!! ERROR: category/package failed. !!! Function elibtoolize, Line 240, Exitcode 0 !!! Portage patch failed to

Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager

2005-05-12 Thread Marius Mauch
Michael Haubenwallner wrote: - Original Message - From: "Marius Mauch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ciaran McCreesh wrote: As for the new metadata variable, I think it should be a complement to RESTRICT (not limited to prefix). As the name for this var I suggest SUPPORTS, so for an ebuild that can

Re: [gentoo-dev] have_NPTL proposal/question

2005-05-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 12 May 2005 09:31 am, Mike Frysinger wrote: > if mono is the only thing [ab]using have_NPTL, then maybe i'll bug > latexer/dotnet guys and see why they cant utilize USE=nptl aaand it's gone so your only solution now is `use nptl`, muwahahahaha -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org maili

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New category proposal

2005-05-12 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 08:01:23PM +0100, Stroller wrote: > >>>* Unique ID strings for packages, zynot style. Messy as hell though, > >>>DEPEND="foo/bar {12379812AD7382164BD87678652438FC65E43A2}" doesn't > >>>have > >>>the same kind of ring to it... > >> > >>Maybe I'm just a messy person, but I re

Re: [gentoo-dev] get_number_of_jobs

2005-05-12 Thread Aron Griffis
Rafael EspÃndola wrote:[Thu May 12 2005, 02:40:46PM EDT] > Why does get_number_of_jobs reduces the number of parallel jobs to "to > ensure successful merge"? In my humble opinion if a package fails to > compile with a large -j then the ebuild should know the limit and > reduce it. Nope, if

[gentoo-dev] Re: have_NPTL proposal/question

2005-05-12 Thread R Hill
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday 11 May 2005 05:20 pm, Francesco Riosa wrote: what we have: At the moment have_NPTL is defined in eclass/eutils.eclass, it compile a small test program to check if glibc have nptl support. hasnt this been outgrown ? people should `use nptl` now i think in fact gli

Re: [gentoo-dev] encode useflag

2005-05-12 Thread Gregorio Guidi
On Thursday 12 May 2005 21:22, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Thursday 12 May 2005 21:20, Gregorio Guidi wrote: > > Is there a package where this could apply? > > We have couple of packages which can use both lame or toolame. ...toolame doesn't seem to do mp3s, so it doesn't overlap with la

Re: [gentoo-dev] libstdc++-v3-3.4.3

2005-05-12 Thread Nick Dimiduk
Rafael EspÃndola wrote: For this reason I have ported the ebuild to gcc 3.4.3. Should I submit a bug report with it? Yes, a bug report is ideal. -- Nick Dimiduk Gentoo for MacOS Developer ndimiduk (at) gentoo (dot) org -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] encode useflag

2005-05-12 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Thursday 12 May 2005 21:20, Gregorio Guidi wrote: > Is there a package where this could apply? We have couple of packages which can use both lame or toolame. -- Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò Gentoo Developer (Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, Gentoo/AMD64) http://dev.gentoo.org/~flameeyes/ pgpfon0vIe2JM.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New category proposal

2005-05-12 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stroller wrote: > > On May 12, 2005, at 10:11 am, Patrick Lauer wrote: > >> On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 23:58 +0100, Stroller wrote: >> >>> On May 11, 2005, at 8:10 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >>> * Unique ID strings for packages, zynot style. Mes

Re: [gentoo-dev] encode useflag

2005-05-12 Thread Gregorio Guidi
On Thursday 12 May 2005 20:55, Simon Stelling wrote: > Mike Frysinger wrote: > > so ? can you show me a package that this difference matters ? if not, > > then having lame sep from mp3 is pointless ... > > It's analog to the lesstif use flag: > > lesstif - Use lesstif over openmotif in cases wher

Re: [gentoo-dev] get_number_of_jobs

2005-05-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 12 May 2005 02:40 pm, Rafael Espíndola wrote: > Why does get_number_of_jobs it's an old hack that should be punted ... it's only used by glibc/gcc now, i just havent gotten around to removing it there's some parallel build issues in glibc, i just havent gotten up the guts to track i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New category proposal

2005-05-12 Thread Stroller
On May 12, 2005, at 10:11 am, Patrick Lauer wrote: On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 23:58 +0100, Stroller wrote: On May 11, 2005, at 8:10 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: * Unique ID strings for packages, zynot style. Messy as hell though, DEPEND="foo/bar {12379812AD7382164BD87678652438FC65E43A2}" doesn't have the

Re: [gentoo-dev] encode useflag

2005-05-12 Thread Simon Stelling
Mike Frysinger wrote: > so ? can you show me a package that this difference matters ? if not, then > having lame sep from mp3 is pointless ... It's analog to the lesstif use flag: lesstif - Use lesstif over openmotif in cases where a program supports both lame - Use lame over $OTHER_MP3ENCODI

[gentoo-dev] get_number_of_jobs

2005-05-12 Thread Rafael Espíndola
Why does get_number_of_jobs reduces the number of parallel jobs to "to ensure successful merge"? In my humble opinion if a package fails to compile with a large -j then the ebuild should know the limit and reduce it. An example of the problem: My machine has one processor but there are many icecc

[gentoo-dev] libstdc++-v3-3.4.3

2005-05-12 Thread Rafael Espíndola
I know that the libstdc++v3 is intended to help in the migration to gcc 3.4. But I also find it usefull to build very small installations without gcc. For this reason I have ported the ebuild to gcc 3.4.3. Should I submit a bug report with it? Rafael Ávila de Espíndola # Copyright 1999-2005 Gento

Re: [gentoo-dev] encode useflag

2005-05-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 12 May 2005 01:19 pm, Matthijs van der Vleuten wrote: > On 5/12/05, Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > if you created a USE=lame, it would simply be a subset of USE=mp3 > > But USE=mp3 could mean mp3 decoding support in audio players, while > lame is not a decoder. so ? can

Re: [gentoo-dev] encode useflag

2005-05-12 Thread Matthijs van der Vleuten
On 5/12/05, Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > if you created a USE=lame, it would simply be a subset of USE=mp3 But USE=mp3 could mean mp3 decoding support in audio players, while lame is not a decoder. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] encode useflag

2005-05-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 12 May 2005 12:50 pm, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Thursday 12 May 2005 18:18, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > lame doesnt produce any other formats than mp3s afaik > > But there are other libraries which produce mp3s. Lame is just one of them. whats your point ? if you created a U

Re: [gentoo-dev] encode useflag

2005-05-12 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Thursday 12 May 2005 18:18, Mike Frysinger wrote: > lame doesnt produce any other formats than mp3s afaik But there are other libraries which produce mp3s. Lame is just one of them. -- Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò Gentoo Developer (Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, Gentoo/AMD64) http://dev.gentoo.org/~flam

Re: [gentoo-dev] encode useflag

2005-05-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 12 May 2005 11:52 am, Simon Stelling wrote: > Mike Frysinger wrote: > >>My proposal is to start using lame useflag to enable lame support (in > >>software which is just encoding on itself), > > > > why not re-use the 'mp3' USE flag ? > > I guess the focus here wouldn't be on supporting

Re: [gentoo-dev] encode useflag

2005-05-12 Thread Simon Stelling
Mike Frysinger wrote: >>My proposal is to start using lame useflag to enable lame support (in >>software which is just encoding on itself), > > > why not re-use the 'mp3' USE flag ? because LAME Ain't an Mp3 Encoder? ;) I guess the focus here wouldn't be on supporting mp3-encoding as such but

Re: [gentoo-dev] have_NPTL proposal/question

2005-05-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 12 May 2005 08:58 am, Francesco Riosa wrote: > Mike Frysinger wrote: > >On Wednesday 11 May 2005 05:20 pm, Francesco Riosa wrote: > >>what we have: > >>At the moment have_NPTL is defined in eclass/eutils.eclass, it compile a > >>small test program to check if glibc have nptl support. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] have_NPTL proposal/question

2005-05-12 Thread Francesco Riosa
Mike Frysinger wrote: >On Wednesday 11 May 2005 05:20 pm, Francesco Riosa wrote: > > >>what we have: >>At the moment have_NPTL is defined in eclass/eutils.eclass, it compile a >>small test program to check if glibc have nptl support. >> >> > >hasnt this been outgrown ? people should `use np

Re: [gentoo-dev] encode useflag

2005-05-12 Thread Brian Jackson
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: >Another useflag-related question. > >Currently, the encode useflag is defined as follow: > >encode - Adds support for MEncoder or LaME encoder, wherever applicable > >this is a loose definition which is quite useless for medium user, as it's >used also in a non-c

Re: [gentoo-dev] encode useflag

2005-05-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 12 May 2005 05:12 am, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > encode - Adds support for MEncoder or LaME encoder, wherever applicable > > this is a loose definition which is quite useless for medium user, as it's > used also in a non-complete-standard way in all ebuilds. agreed > My propos

Re: [gentoo-dev] have_NPTL proposal/question

2005-05-12 Thread Francesco Riosa
Mike Frysinger wrote: >On Wednesday 11 May 2005 07:26 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > >>On Wed, 11 May 2005 16:12:45 -0700 Donnie Berkholz >> >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>| Francesco Riosa wrote: >>| > case $(getconf GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION | tr >>| > abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQ

Re: [gentoo-dev] have_NPTL proposal/question

2005-05-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 11 May 2005 05:20 pm, Francesco Riosa wrote: > what we have: > At the moment have_NPTL is defined in eclass/eutils.eclass, it compile a > small test program to check if glibc have nptl support. hasnt this been outgrown ? people should `use nptl` now i think > there are drawbacks on

Re: [gentoo-dev] have_NPTL proposal/question

2005-05-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 11 May 2005 08:59 pm, Georgi Georgiev wrote: > maillog: 12/05/2005-00:26:14(+0100): Ciaran McCreesh types > > > On Wed, 11 May 2005 16:12:45 -0700 Donnie Berkholz > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > | Francesco Riosa wrote: > > | > case $(getconf GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION | tr > > | >

Re: [gentoo-dev] have_NPTL proposal/question

2005-05-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 11 May 2005 07:26 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 11 May 2005 16:12:45 -0700 Donnie Berkholz > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | Francesco Riosa wrote: > | > case $(getconf GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION | tr > | > abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ) in > | > | Wow, what

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-12 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
Brian Harring wrote: > > The layout on disk and the semantics of categories do not need to be > > > > related. > Yes and no. You're assuming that people don't use the layout on > disk for digging around without calling portage. Personally, I do. Sometimes I do the same; but other times I find

[gentoo-dev] encode useflag

2005-05-12 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
Another useflag-related question. Currently, the encode useflag is defined as follow: encode - Adds support for MEncoder or LaME encoder, wherever applicable this is a loose definition which is quite useless for medium user, as it's used also in a non-complete-standard way in all ebuilds. My p

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New category proposal

2005-05-12 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 23:58 +0100, Stroller wrote: > On May 11, 2005, at 8:10 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > > * Unique ID strings for packages, zynot style. Messy as hell though, > > DEPEND="foo/bar {12379812AD7382164BD87678652438FC65E43A2}" doesn't have > > the same kind of ring to it... > > M

Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager

2005-05-12 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
- Original Message - From: "Marius Mauch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > As for the new metadata variable, I think it should be a complement to > RESTRICT (not limited to prefix). As the name for this var I suggest > SUPPORTS, so for an ebuild that can install into /usr, $