Re: [PROPOSAL] Storm for Apache Incubator

2013-09-04 Thread Ted Dunning
e Storm messaging layer pluggable, and plan to use > > Netty (which is licensed under Apache License v2) as our default > messaging > > plugin (while keep 0MQ as an optional plugin). > > > > == Cryptography == > > > > We do not expect Storm to be a controll

Re: [PROPOSAL] Storm for Apache Incubator

2013-09-04 Thread Ted Dunning
gt; >>> licensed directly to the Apache foundation through our signed > Individual > >>> Contributor License Agreements for all committers on the project. > >>> > >>> Yahoo! is also willing to move Storm-on-YARN code from github to be a > >>&g

Re: [PROPOSAL] Storm for Apache Incubator

2013-09-08 Thread Ted Dunning
on entering Apache, Yahoo! will sign over copyright to Apache > foundation. > >> > >> == External Dependencies == > >> > >> To the best of our knowledge, all of Storm dependencies (except 0MQ/JMQ) > >> are distributed under Apache compatible licenses. Upon a

Re: [Drill] - Re: Shepherd assignments, September 2013

2013-09-10 Thread Ted Dunning
Dave, I would take some issue with your comments here. If you look at what is happening right now, the entire Drill team is focussed on making a release and particularly focussed on getting the IP issues right. There have been several release candidates posted and the community members have been

Re: [VOTE] Accept Storm into the Incubator

2013-09-12 Thread Ted Dunning
rialization plugins … Storm provides plugins for > plain-object serialization and blowfish encryption. > > == Required Resources == > > === Mailing lists === > > * storm-user > * storm-dev > * storm-commits > * storm-private (with moderated subscriptions) > > ==

Re: [Drill] - Re: Shepherd assignments, September 2013

2013-09-13 Thread Ted Dunning
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > Thanks to Dave for his long record of contributing as a shepherd. > Indeed. And thanks to Dave for checking out Drill. More eyes on a project is always a good thing.

Re: [Drill] - Re: Shepherd assignments, September 2013

2013-09-13 Thread Ted Dunning
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > Sorry for any consternation. Best of luck. I do think that once your > podling does release that TLP status should come soon. > I would say that we have a little more practice needed in incubator. But the progress is happening. One issue t

[VOTE] first milestone release of Apache Drill (incubating)

2013-09-17 Thread Ted Dunning
We've held a vote on drill-dev to release the first milestone release. The vote thread can be found here: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-drill-dev/201309.mbox/%3ccaka9qdkmxjp-r8v+zwabm5e4b5osrypjyp+dupvq2lr-d70...@mail.gmail.com%3E The vote passed with 4 x +1 binding votes 7

Re: [VOTE] first milestone release of Apache Drill (incubating)

2013-09-17 Thread Ted Dunning
Lest anybody not understand my implicit vote: +1 (binding) On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > Wonderful. > > On Sep 17, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > > > We've held a vote on drill-dev to release the first milestone release. > > >

Re: [VOTE] first milestone release of Apache Drill (incubating)

2013-09-18 Thread Ted Dunning
eteness > or stability of the code, it does indicate that the project has yet to be > fully endorsed by the ASF. > > > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 6:24 AM, Grant Ingersoll > wrote: > > +1, binding > > > > On Sep 17, 2013, at 6:29 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: &

Re: [VOTE] first milestone release of Apache Drill (incubating)

2013-09-18 Thread Ted Dunning
Thanks for reviewing at all! Even more thanks for reviewing when you should be sleeping. On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Ted Dunning > wrote: > > Benson, > > > > The disclaimer is in the README now: > &

Re: [VOTE] first milestone release of Apache Drill (incubating)

2013-09-18 Thread Ted Dunning
This vote has been open for nearly 24 hours out of 72 hours and has just over 48 hours to run. This is a tickler in case somebody wants to vote, but has been distracted. The current tally is 4 binding +1, 1 ambiguous, none against. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > We

Re: [VOTE] first milestone release of Apache Drill (incubating)

2013-09-18 Thread Ted Dunning
, Dave Brondsema wrote: > Do you have a KEYS file posted somewhere besides within the release? > > On 09/17/2013 06:29 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > > We've held a vote on drill-dev to release the first milestone release. > > > > The vote thread can be f

Re: [VOTE] first milestone release of Apache Drill (incubating)

2013-09-22 Thread Ted Dunning
ame before a product is published: > http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/naming.html<http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html> > I don't see why Drill is an exception, but maybe I have missed something. > > Until I know more, I need to -1 this. > > Thanks!

Re: [VOTE] first milestone release of Apache Drill (incubating)

2013-09-23 Thread Ted Dunning
ear the name before a product is published: > http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/naming.html<http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html> > I don't see why Drill is an exception, but maybe I have missed something. > > Until I know more, I need to -1 this. > > T

Re: [VOTE] first milestone release of Apache Drill (incubating)

2013-09-23 Thread Ted Dunning
ed to -1 this. > > Thanks! > > > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 03:29:46PM -0700, Ted Dunning wrote: >> >>> We've held a vote on drill-dev to release the first milestone release. >>> >>> The vote thread can be found here: >>> >>>

Re: [RESULT] first milestone release of Apache Drill (incubating)

2013-09-24 Thread Ted Dunning
This vote has closed and has passed according to majority vote because it has at least 3 +1 votes and more +1 than -1 votes. The final tally is this: *Binding +1 votes* Ted Dunning Steve Loughran Benson Margulies Grant Ingersoll Henry Saputra Isabel Drost-Fromm *Binding -1 votes* Christian

Re: Too many late reports

2013-10-06 Thread Ted Dunning
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > If my shepherding perspective is any indication this has been quite chronic > (although this month feels particularly bad). I think you're absolutely > right > in suggesting that we should try and address this somehow. > One thing that ha

Re: Licensing question for new incubator project

2013-10-11 Thread Ted Dunning
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > company. I would therefore like to verify that, in order to contribute the >> project to ASF, they will be required to sign a Corporate CLA, and a >> Software Grant Agreement. >> > > yes, the company will need to sign a software grant

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-07 Thread Ted Dunning
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > The Incubator has a fundamental structural flaw: it lacks a mechanism to > reward merit earned by individual podling contributors. Instead, we teach > people to hate the Incubator by placing their projects at the mercy of > Mentors. Our M

Re: [VOTE] Accept Twill for Incubation

2013-11-07 Thread Ted Dunning
+1 (binding) On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Patrick Hunt wrote: > +1 Accept Twill into the Incubator > > Patrick > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Andreas Neumann wrote: > > The discussion about the Weave proposal has calmed. As the outcome of the > > discussion, we have chosen a new name

Re: Do we need a disclaimer? (Storm)

2013-11-14 Thread Ted Dunning
First few words should read "A disclaimer ..." I blame a combo of jet lag and *really* slow net link. Not the guy who hit send without proofing, of course. On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Ted Dunning wrote: > > I disclaimer to clarify that the 0.9.0 release is neither an Ap

Re: [VOTE] Phoenix for incubator project

2013-12-05 Thread Ted Dunning
+1 (binding) On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Anil Gupta wrote: > +1 > > Hope to see Phoenix in Apache family. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 5, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Stack wrote: > > > > Discussion of the Phoenix proposal has settled since its original > > posting on November 7th. Feedback

Re: Engaging Mentors

2013-12-09 Thread Ted Dunning
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:45 AM, Matt Franklin wrote: > Christian is right. We are watching the lists and follow the discussions, > but do look for DISCUSS, VOTE, or MENTOR flags especially. > > > On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:07 AM, Christian Grobmeier >wrote: > > > Taylor, > > > > your mentors shoul

Re: IP Clearance before releasing

2013-12-12 Thread Ted Dunning
A point which is often missed by new comers is that votes aren't final until they vote closes and is tallied. That allows a vote that uncovers a serious defect to trigger a bunch of defecting votes (if the vote isn't just canceled) On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Doug Cutting wrote: > On Thu

Re: [VOTE] Accept DataFu into the Incubator

2013-12-31 Thread Ted Dunning
+1 Binding On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Joe Stein wrote: > +1 (non-binding) > > Awesome! Happy New Year!!! > > - Joe Stein > > > On Dec 31, 2013, at 3:48 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Jakob Homan wrote: > >> Incubator- > >> > >> Following the discussi

Re: GSoC Donation and/or clearance

2014-01-08 Thread Ted Dunning
The standard rules all apply to GSoC students. They should do their code in as close to the standard way as possible (which would have precluded the code being outside at this point) and they should file and ICLA if they do enough to warrant it. On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Alexander Broekhu

Re: Hoya Proposal

2014-01-13 Thread Ted Dunning
Too many people will read that as Jena, the city in Thuringia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jena -1 On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Andy Seaborne wrote: > On 13/01/14 20:25, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz >> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Jan

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Spark from the Incubator

2014-02-01 Thread Ted Dunning
+1 On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Matei Zaharia wrote: > Hi folks, > > The Apache Spark community has VOTEd to graduate from the Apache incubator > (vote thread: http://s.apache.org/kq, discussion thread: > http://s.apache.org/aEQ). > > I’m now calling an official IPMC VOTE to make this happ

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Spark from the Incubator

2014-02-06 Thread Ted Dunning
+1 (binding) These wrinkles are not as big as they appear. For instance, the issue with some committers not noticing that their accounts were live is actually due to a better submission and review process than most tlp's exhibit. The spark community has more of the apache spirit in it than mos

Re: Tool to generate disclaimer, NOTICE, etc. files

2014-02-08 Thread Ted Dunning
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 7:42 PM, sebb wrote: > > WDYT? > > Non-trivial; maintaining the meta-data needed to accurately generate > the NOTICE file is likely to require more effort than writing the > NOTICE file itself. > Actually, this sounds like a case where the effort for any individual projec

Re: Github pull request hooks

2014-02-10 Thread Ted Dunning
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 7:01 AM, Sergio Fernández < sergio.fernan...@salzburgresearch.at> wrote: > On 10/02/14 14:49, Daniel Gruno wrote: > >> I would suggest you create a new JIRA ticket with this _wish_ and label >> is as Git+Wilderness, and I'll try to figure out whether we can support >> this

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Spark from the Incubator

2014-02-11 Thread Ted Dunning
+1 (binding) On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:52 AM, Alex Karasulu wrote: > +1 (binding) > > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 6:50 AM, Mosharaf Chowdhury < > mosharafka...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > +1 > > > > -- > > Mosharaf Chowdhury > > http://www.mosharaf.com/ > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 8:45 P

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Storm 0.9.1-incubating

2014-02-15 Thread Ted Dunning
+1 (binding) On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Joseph Schaefer wrote: > I would say that is the right approach, and > that this vote should continue on. > > On Feb 15, 2014, at 2:34 PM, P. Taylor Goetz wrote: > > > Hi Joseph, > > > > Thank you very much for the clarification. > > > > After ch

Re: How to handle "module" contributions

2014-02-17 Thread Ted Dunning
The basic idea is that you have to have the right to incorporate the code and be able to demonstrate that right. For example #1, you can switch your contributions to ASL2 and be good, but you may have problems with the contributions of the others unless the contributions are trivial. For example

Re: How to handle "module" contributions

2014-02-17 Thread Ted Dunning
yeah. What Joe said. On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Joseph Schaefer wrote: > Judgement call depending on what you might > consider a reasonable size for a minor fix > versus an independent work (e.g. new module). > The larger the patch the more likely you should > consider having the author f

Mentor needs wiki permissions

2014-03-11 Thread Ted Dunning
Sebastian Schelter is a new mentor for Drill and needs wiki write permissions to sign off on monthly reports. At his request, I have marked the report for this month, but he would like to be able to do it himself before the next report. Can somebody help by giving him permissions? I copied him s

Re: Mentor needs wiki permissions

2014-03-11 Thread Ted Dunning
Thanks Nick. That's why I copied him. On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Nick Burch wrote: > On Tue, 11 Mar 2014, Ted Dunning wrote: > >> Sebastian Schelter is a new mentor for Drill and needs wiki write >> permissions to sign off on monthly reports. >> >&

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stratosphere

2014-03-30 Thread Ted Dunning
e - fabian.hue...@tu-berlin.de > * Daniel Warneke - warn...@posteo.de > * Robert Metzger - metrob...@gmail.com > * Ufuk Celebi - u.cel...@fu-berlin.de > * Aljoscha Krettek - aljoscha.kret...@gmail.com > * Kostas Tzoumas - kostas.tzou...@tu-berlin.de > * Sebastian Schelter

Re: [PROPOSAL] Stratosphere

2014-03-30 Thread Ted Dunning
On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Sebastien Goasguen wrote: > Maybe 'stratosphere' is too generic to be able to get trademarks > established down the road. > That is a significant issue that will need to dealt with during incubation. Good trademarks are very difficult to come up with.

Re: [DISCUSS] Meerkat as a Hama sub-module or sub-project

2014-04-28 Thread Ted Dunning
Edward, Sub-projects are generally frowned on. Incubator projects can graduate eventually to a top-level project, but starting a project as a sub is not so good. The incubator docs on this are pretty good reading. But if the committer community for your real-time BSP is (or can be) the same as

Re: [PROPOSAL] Optiq

2014-04-30 Thread Ted Dunning
gt; use of git/github. We request a writeable git repo git:// > git.apache.org/incubator-optiq, and mirroring to be set up to github > through INFRA. > > === Issue Tracking === > > Optiq currently uses the github issue tracking system associated with its > github repo: https://github.com/

Re: [PROPOSAL] Optiq

2014-05-01 Thread Ted Dunning
gt; > === Source control === > > The Optiq team would like to use git for source control, due to our current > use of git/github. We request a writeable git repo git:// > git.apache.org/incubator-optiq, and mirroring to be set up to github > through INFRA. > > === Issue Trackin

Re: [PROPOSAL] Optiq

2014-05-01 Thread Ted Dunning
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Kasper Sørensen < kasper.soren...@humaninference.com> wrote: > - Can you explain or link to more information about the type inference you > mention? > The type inferencing is used by Drill. The problem is that strong typing is normally required to parse SQL state

Re: [VOTE] Accept Optiq into the incubator

2014-05-10 Thread Ted Dunning
On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Ashutosh Chauhan wrote: > [X] +1 Accept Optiq into the Incubator > [ ] +0 Indifferent to the acceptance of Stratosphere > [ ] -1 Do not accept Optiq because ... > The appearance of Stratosphere is a clear typo. I still vote to accept.

Re: Shepherding Summary - June 2014

2014-06-08 Thread Ted Dunning
I am working with the Drill team to help them get the report in. The community is very active with >200 Jiras reported and fixed in the last 30 days. The problem with the report is likely due to the fact that the community member who has been creating the reports (Ellen Friedman) has been diverte

Re: Flink's report

2014-06-08 Thread Ted Dunning
Also, with a very new project, it is important to know that they have done releases before coming to Apache. On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 6:08 PM, John D. Ament > wrote: > > > If anyone from Flink can answer... as well as IPMC members. > > >

Re: Board Report Reminder

2014-06-08 Thread Ted Dunning
l project didn't reported after I > have > nudged them on the dev@ list and Ted Dunning forwarded the reminder from > the > board. > > Cos > > On Sat, Jun 07, 2014 at 10:50AM, John D. Ament wrote: > > Hi all > > > > Don't forget, board report

Re: DRAFT Board Report June 2014

2014-06-10 Thread Ted Dunning
Drill should probably be in that category as well. 300 issues resolved last 30 days, lots of contributors. They have about as much stuff happening as HBase. On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 6:13 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > Marvin, > > What do you think about listing storm under ready to graduate inste

Re: DRAFT Board Report June 2014

2014-06-10 Thread Ted Dunning
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 6:33 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Ted Dunning > wrote: > > Drill should probably be in that category as well. > > > > 300 issues resolved last 30 days, lots of contributors. > > > > They have ab

Re: Do we still need release metrics as part of the report?

2014-06-11 Thread Ted Dunning
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > One thing that I noticed in the report is that the detailed > metrics around releases are missing. Do folks think > there's a value in having them? > What metrics do you mean? The metrics that really matter are up-take of the new versio

Re: Do we still need release metrics as part of the report?

2014-06-11 Thread Ted Dunning
Good point. Thanks for clarifying. Yes. I think that those metrics are an excellent measure of community health. On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Ted Dunning > wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Roman Shaposh

Re: [VOTE] Retire the S4 podling

2014-06-13 Thread Ted Dunning
+1 for retirement (binding) On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 1:23 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > +1 Please go ahead and retire from the incubator. (binding) > > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Per recent discussions on general@[1] and s4-dev@ [2], I went ahead a

Re: [VOTE] Retire the S4 podling

2014-06-17 Thread Ted Dunning
This is a vote thread, not a discussion thread. Read the earlier messages which are included in this thread for more context. On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 2:02 PM, abiola balogun wrote: > Why do u say so and who are you? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 16, 26 Heisei, at 8:18, abiola balogun w

Re: [DISCUSS] Incubator exit criteria

2014-06-18 Thread Ted Dunning
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 11:14 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > To this end, I'd like to prose a very simplistic criteria > for a potential retirement from the incubator: unless both > of of the following applies project get put to a retirement > IPMC vote: >* there has been a release in the past

Re: [DISCUSS] Incubator exit criteria

2014-06-18 Thread Ted Dunning
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 11:46 PM, Alexander Broekhuis wrote: > as the retirement criteria would IMO be too harsh for Celix when we > started. > In a similar vein, Drill currently has about the same number of commits and mail messages as Hive does, but hasn't had a release in a while. They have

Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-20 Thread Ted Dunning
I think that this is a serious problem for Tez graduation. So far, Tez has been essentially a one-company show and essentially all of the participants are there because of their day jobs. It doesn't seem like it has to be that way, but it also doesn't seem like there are organic drives to push it

Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-22 Thread Ted Dunning
Chris Regardless of whether it is an explicit requirement to have some specific level of diversity, there is a requirement that the group demonstrate community building. The page in question may be incorrect, but as it stands it does not appear that a diverse community has been built. I a

Re: Spam

2014-06-22 Thread Ted Dunning
My position on this sort of thing has shifted a whole lot over the last few years. I used to be very careful about offending bots but after dealing hundreds of these accounts on MapR user facing sites, I am way less sympathetic. Kudos for humanity but I recommend not losing much sleep here.

Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-23 Thread Ted Dunning
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) < chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: > >Regardless of whether it is an explicit requirement to have some specific > >level of diversity, there is a requirement that the group demonstrate > >community building. > > I'm also sympathetic to

Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-23 Thread Ted Dunning
he other mentors on the project can step up and have some > insight > into the below. I look forward to the discussion. > > > Cheers, > Chris > > > -Original Message- > From: Ted Dunning > Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" > Date: M

Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-23 Thread Ted Dunning
I will look as soon as possible. I am on a trip right now and am occupied with day job stuff >12 hours a day. If you don't hear from me in a short time, move forward based in your best judgment. I trust the group to consider my impressions and to think about what merit they may (or may not) h

Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]

2014-06-23 Thread Ted Dunning
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Bikas Saha wrote: > Community building is an organic process that grows on its own accord. > Really, I was going to run away for a bit, but my feeling is that this statement is amazingly naive about how communities are built. Community doesn't just happen. Comm

Re: July report project list

2014-06-28 Thread Ted Dunning
I feel your pain! Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 28, 2014, at 7:39, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > > Others are going to have to step up their game. > > Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Tez from Apache Incubator to TLP

2014-07-01 Thread Ted Dunning
+1 On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 7:16 AM, Alan Gates wrote: > +1. > > Alan. > > Hitesh Shah > June 30, 2014 at 9:16 PM > Hello folks > > Tez entered incubation in February, 2013. Since then, we have made > progress towards graduation[1]. The Tez community recently voted positively > towards gradu

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Argus Proposal

2014-07-16 Thread Ted Dunning
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 1:20 AM, Chris Douglas wrote: > > So, I am fond of Henry's hope that the project will solicit a more > diversified > > set of mentors and initial committers. > > The committer and PPMC list should be honest. If there is no > diversity, that fact must be visible for it to b

Re: Podling binding votes

2014-07-24 Thread Ted Dunning
Sounds right to me. As a separate matter of etiquette and community building, it is usually good form for mentors to vote last during the community vote and first in the IPMC vote. On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:44 PM, P. Taylor Goetz wrote: > My interpretation (and it's just that) is: > > Exampl

Re: [VOTE] Apache Drill 0.4.0-incubating release

2014-08-04 Thread Ted Dunning
I checked the source artifact and found several internal SNAPSHOT dependencies (should be fixed) and one external SNAPSHOT dependency (must be fixed). The good news is that the external SNAPSHOT dependency is parquet version 1.5.0-SNAPSHOT. Since parquet 1.5.0 has been released, this should be a

Re: [VOTE] Apache Drill 0.4.0-incubating release

2014-08-05 Thread Ted Dunning
065058fff2ccc8cc806c5b2 > optiq: > > https://github.com/jacques-n/optiq/commit/4508b617bd3ffed2840055fe16e6684e1c0a35d7 > > Hopefully this satisfies the need to document the source references for > third party dependencies within the Apache Drill 0.4.0 release. > > thanks, >

Re: [VOTE] Apache Drill 0.4.0-incubating release

2014-08-08 Thread Ted Dunning
Also, I think that it is important that *all* dependency licenses be documented in the source release. Speaking as a consumer, I need to know what dependencies will come in when I compile the code. Marking the dependencies as source inclusions or as compile time or as test dependencies or as pack

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Storm to a TLP

2014-08-18 Thread Ted Dunning
tion of the Board of Directors as the chair > > of the Apache Storm Project, and to have primary responsibility > > for management of the projects within the scope of > > responsibility of the Apache Storm Project; and be it further > > > > RESOLVED,

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Storm to a TLP

2014-08-18 Thread Ted Dunning
Ted missed seeing the dev@ vote, else he (I) would have voted +1. On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 7:11 PM, P. Taylor Goetz wrote: > Yes. But Ted voted in this general@/IPMC thread. Arvind's vote was in the > dev@storm/PPMC thread. > > -Taylor > > > On Aug 18, 2014, at 9:38 PM, Henry Saputra > wrote:

Re: Tooling friendly incubator report

2014-09-03 Thread Ted Dunning
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > So how about creating the web form but having it generate text which can be > inserted into the wiki template? That would allow us to tune the web > interface without committing to the new format. > +1 A simple interface to copy/paste th

Re: [VOTE] Apache Drill 0.5.0-incubating release

2014-09-07 Thread Ted Dunning
+1 (binding) Others have checked signatures and conducted functional tests (and noted tiny discrepancies on the web-site build instructions). I have used this software from the master branch quite recently. As such, I focussed on non-functional aspects of the distro. This looks like a very clea

Re: [VOTE] Apache Drill 0.5.0-incubating release

2014-09-08 Thread Ted Dunning
Is the new process documented somewhere? On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 3:17 PM, sebb wrote: > On 7 September 2014 20:31, Jacques Nadeau wrote: > > As I understand the release guidelines, one is not allowed to put > something > > on dist.apache.org until after a release vote by the Incubator PMC > a

Re: [VOTE] Apache Drill 0.5.0-incubating release

2014-09-08 Thread Ted Dunning
documentation? On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 4:27 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > Ted, > > Do you mean more than here: > > [1]: http://www.apache.org/dev/publishing-maven-artifacts.html > [2]: http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#host-rc > > On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Ted Dunning

Re: [VOTE] Apache Drill 0.5.0-incubating release

2014-09-08 Thread Ted Dunning
alternatives? On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 4:27 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > Ted, > > Do you mean more than here: > > [1]: http://www.apache.org/dev/publishing-maven-artifacts.html > [2]: http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#host-rc > > On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Ted Dunning

Re: September report

2014-09-09 Thread Ted Dunning
This is easier if you start from the template report that is on the wiki page. http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/September2014 Note that the deadline has passed already, so you will likely be asked to file your report next month. Some things that I don't see in this report are: - the amount of t

Re: New Committers not showing up on people.a.o

2014-09-11 Thread Ted Dunning
Last time I had to figure this out, this link was the key: http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#SVNaccess On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:23 PM, P. Taylor Goetz wrote: > We (Storm) have added a few committers/PPMC members, but they aren’t > listed under the project on people.apache.org. > > Poking t

Re: [PROPOSAL] Grill as new Incubator project

2014-09-19 Thread Ted Dunning
There is a strong phonetic similarity to Apache Drill, a project in the same general domain. Is the Grill name already baked in (pun intended)? On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 7:24 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) < chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: > Thank you Sharad. So I could use this system for r

Re: [PROPOSAL] Grill as new Incubator project

2014-09-22 Thread Ted Dunning
Both Lens and Blend are nice names. Nice connotations as well. I am slightly stunned by a quick search on the name Lens. I only found one software package with that name (and it was for lens calibration so far from databases). A name like that is usually massively over used. This might be a re

Re: [PROPOSAL] Grill as new Incubator project

2014-09-23 Thread Ted Dunning
> Thanks > Sharad > > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Ted Dunning > wrote: > > > Both Lens and Blend are nice names. Nice connotations as well. > > > > I am slightly stunned by a quick search on the name Lens. I only found > one > > software

Re: [PROPOSAL] Grill as new Incubator project

2014-09-26 Thread Ted Dunning
Drill uses standard sorts of CI infrastructure. Lens (was Grill) is something I don't know about and they are the ones who might have something unusual. On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 12:44 PM, David Nalley wrote: > > currently employed by SoftwareAG. Raghavendra Singh from InMobi has built > > the

Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-29 Thread Ted Dunning
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:52 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > The HTTP Server PMC has succeeded in working through these issues without > evicting a project member, and continuing to make progress. > There is a lot of credit due for this. Of course, there are different stresses on each project.

Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-30 Thread Ted Dunning
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 3:46 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > To the concrete question, the Subversion project never calls a strict > [VOTE] for new committers or PMC members. We discuss first, and that sets > the direction. People throw out +1 messages, but that is "sure, make it so" > rather than a true

Re: [VOTE] Apache Drill 0.6.0-incubating release

2014-10-07 Thread Ted Dunning
The unit test was only on Java 1.8. That problem will be resolved in the next release which will be in roughly a month from now. The current primary target of Drill is 1.7. The number of reviewers for the release is an indication of how the community doesn't view Java 1.8 as a critical platform

Re: [VOTE] Apache Drill 0.6.0-incubating release

2014-10-07 Thread Ted Dunning
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 8:41 AM, jan i wrote: > It seems (from the vote thread) you already have solved the problem, but > dont want to wait for a respin, can you please at least explain why the > project is under such a time constraint, that 72 hours is too long to wait > to make good quality. >

Re: [VOTE] Apache Drill 0.6.0-incubating release

2014-10-07 Thread Ted Dunning
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:46 PM, jan i wrote: > > 4.) And lastly, as Julian mentioned on the thread that the set of fixes > > might not be complete yet, > > I think we need more time before we can merge these changes in to a > release > > with confidence to > > support a new platform. > > > > I ag

Re: [VOTE] Apache Drill 0.6.0-incubating release

2014-10-07 Thread Ted Dunning
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:46 PM, jan i wrote: > My intentation was to raise a concern, NOT to block the release (I did on > purpose give a 0 and not -1). I am sorry if you feel its an over-statement, > but honestly for me failing unit tests and not checking a version > dependency (in case of older

Re: [VOTE] Apache Drill 0.6.0-incubating release

2014-10-08 Thread Ted Dunning
+1 (binding) I have downloaded the code, compiled and run the tests. I also checked all checksums, and verified the signatures. I also verified that the signing key was signed by people I trust (and indeed, by me as well) and correctly propagated to the gpg key servers. I also reviewed in both

Re: [VOTE] Apache Drill 0.6.0-incubating release

2014-10-08 Thread Ted Dunning
in - those just have to wait a month. Only for critical > correctness issues did I delay a release for a few days. > > Obviously that is just my opinion.) > > Thanks. > > -- Lars > > > > > > From: Ted Dunning >

Re: [VOTE] Apache Drill 0.6.0-incubating release

2014-10-10 Thread Ted Dunning
The standard practice has been drifting in incubator-land. When I brought this up previously, I was told a few things, 1) the notices required by BSD like licenses apparently should appear in the LICENSE file. 2) notices in the source distribution only need to include things that are included in

Re: [VOTE] Apache Drill 0.6.0-incubating release

2014-10-10 Thread Ted Dunning
Sean, Are you talking about the src distribution after doing the build? Before doing the build or after [mvn clean], there are no jars in the distribution. Videlicet: *ted:apache-drill-0.6.0-incubating-src$ mvn -q cleanted:apache-drill-0.6.0-incubating-src$ find . -name '*.jar'ted:apache-d

Re: [VOTE] Apache Drill 0.6.0-incubating release

2014-10-10 Thread Ted Dunning
ting.tar.gz > > This contains the third-party jar files in jars/. > > I assume http://www.apache.org/dev/licensing-howto.html is still the > law of the land so to speak and indicates that lots of these things > need to be in NOTICE. > > > On Oct 10, 2014 9:24 PM, "Ted

Re: [VOTE] Apache Drill 0.6.0-incubating release

2014-10-11 Thread Ted Dunning
some third-party uber jars > here like hive-exec, but I don't see a Drill uber jar. Maybe that > counts; maybe it's safer just to populate NOTICE appropriately. Or, > avoid shipping copies of all these jars directly? > > On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 7:17 AM, Ted Dunning > w

Re: Bloated NOTICE files are evil

2014-10-11 Thread Ted Dunning
In any case, the NOTICE files included in every jar are preserved. The Drill binary release complies *exactly* with the language "include a readable copy of the attribution notices contained within such NOTICE file". There is no violation of OSS licenses going on here. On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at

Re: Bloated NOTICE files are evil

2014-10-11 Thread Ted Dunning
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 6:51 AM, Sean Owen wrote: > Yes it means greater downstream burden, yes it may have originated > from a 'hack', but that doesn't seem to make the license not say what > it says. Obviously I'd rather not have to do this either. > It is a tortured and patently incorrect rea

Re: Bloated NOTICE files are evil

2014-10-11 Thread Ted Dunning
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Sean Owen wrote: > Here's another example. Drill distributes Netty 4.0.20, which is AL2 > licensed and contains a substantial NOTICE file with stuff like ... > > > --- > This product conta

Re: Bloated NOTICE files are evil

2014-10-11 Thread Ted Dunning
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Sean Owen wrote: > Unfortunately, Netty does not include NOTICE.txt in any of its jars > for you. This text does not appear therefore in the Drill binary > distro. At least, I grepped up and down the whole distro and didn't > see it, and it's not in the Netty jars

Re: Bloated NOTICE files are evil

2014-10-11 Thread Ted Dunning
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Sean Owen wrote: > On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Ted Dunning > wrote: > > Netty's artifacts ("its distribution") do not include a notice. Thus, > > They most certainly do. Please download the distribution of Netty 4.0.20: &

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