Re: [IP Clearance] CouchDB: rcouch

2013-10-16 Thread Noah Slater
;content-type=text%2Fplain > > > Thanks! > Jan > -- > -- Noah Slater https://twitter.com/nslater

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Metamodel 4.0.0 incubating

2014-01-15 Thread Noah Slater
January 2014 14:00 CET> and passes if a > majority of at least 3 IPMC votes are cast. > > Regards > Ankit -- Noah Slater https://twitter.com/nslater - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Metamodel 4.0.0 incubating

2014-01-19 Thread Noah Slater
e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > -- Noah Slater https://twitter.com/nslater - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Metamodel 4.0.0 incubating

2014-01-22 Thread Noah Slater
Congrats! On 21 January 2014 13:05, Ankit Kumar wrote: > HI All, > > The vote for Apache Metamodel 4.0.0-incubating is closed. The vote passes > with 4(+1) votes. > > Following IPMC votes were received. > > *+1* > hsaputra > mfranklin > arvind > nslater >

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Metamodel 4.0.0 incubating

2014-01-22 Thread Noah Slater
; already taken care of by Ankit's release procedure, or do we need to do > something more for the distribution part of the release? > > > 2014/1/22 Noah Slater > >> Congrats! >> >> On 21 January 2014 13:05, Ankit Kumar wrote: >> > HI All, >>

When to sign-off on Incubator reports?

2014-04-08 Thread Noah Slater
, it looks like I endorse it. If I don't, it looks like I am inattentive. I pinged about getting the report done last week, and only just noticed it was added to the wiki without an announcement. Thanks, -- Noah Slater https:/

Re: When to sign-off on Incubator reports?

2014-04-08 Thread Noah Slater
s odd. Though certainly possible I accidentally deleted a thread about it. On 8 April 2014 13:11, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:29 AM, Noah Slater wrote: >> If a podling you are mentoring completes its report late, and there >> are sections of it you are concer

Re: When to sign-off on Incubator reports?

2014-04-08 Thread Noah Slater
s, with comments, if there's things you need to say. >> >> Upayavira >> > > +1 to that. And its still over a week till the baord meeting and lots of > mentors active in Stratos so its not like there are surprises.

Re: When to sign-off on Incubator reports?

2014-04-08 Thread Noah Slater
Okay, all sorted. Thanks for the feedback! On 8 April 2014 14:46, Noah Slater wrote: > The deadline is tonight, and the report is supposed to be submitted tomorrow. > > On 8 April 2014 14:33, ant elder wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Upayavira wrote: >> &g

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Stratos as a TLP

2014-04-28 Thread Noah Slater
>> [3] - http://incubator.apache.org/projects/stratos.html >> [4] - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-45 > > As a mentor, this has my +1. > > ----- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional comma

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Stratos as a TLP

2014-05-02 Thread Noah Slater
Project be and hereby >> > is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache >> > Incubator Stratos podling; and be it further >> > >> > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache >> > Incubator Stratos podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator >> > Project are hereafter discharged. >> > - >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > -- > Lahiru Sandaruwan > Committer and PPMC member, Apache Stratos(incubating), > Senior Software Engineer, > WSO2 Inc., http://wso2.com > lean.enterprise.middleware > > email: lahi...@wso2.com cell: (+94) 773 325 954 > blog: http://lahiruwrites.blogspot.com/ > twitter: http://twitter.com/lahirus > linked-in: http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/lahiru-sandaruwan/16/153/146 -- Noah Slater https://twitter.com/nslater - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Draft Report July 2014 - please review

2014-07-09 Thread Noah Slater
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Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-26 Thread Noah Slater
others will chime in as well.] > > Generally, I lean towards having a veto. If one member has a real > concern, I'd prefer to see it worked through and achieve consensus > rather than overriding someone. > > Best, > > jzb > -- > Joe Brockmeier > j...@zonk

Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-26 Thread Noah Slater
- The shape of your community For young projects, I would recommend being strict, and then loosening up if you start to have problems. On Friday, 26 September 2014, Noah Slater wrote: > As the primary author of the CouchDB bylaws, I will weigh in here. > > Agree with Ross on the discuss

[IP CLEARANCE] CouchDB Docs

2012-09-12 Thread Noah Slater
Hey, Please review the following for IP clearance: http://incubator.staging.apache.org/ip-clearance/couchdb-docs.html Thanks, -- NS

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] CouchDB Docs

2012-09-13 Thread Noah Slater
Anyone else? This is our first time doing this. I just wanna be sure we've covered all bases? On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Noah Slater wrote: > Hey, > > Please review the following for IP clearance: > > http://incubator.staging.apache.org/ip-clearance/couchdb-do

[RESULT] (Was: Re: [IP CLEARANCE] CouchDB Docs)

2012-09-19 Thread Noah Slater
I'm closing this thread (a bit late) with a lazy consensus. IP clearance is complete. On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Noah Slater wrote: > Anyone else? This is our first time doing this. I just wanna be sure we've > covered all bases? > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11

Re: [VOTE] Apache Cordova (incubating) 2.1.0

2012-09-24 Thread Noah Slater
Speaking as CouchDB's RM, I would consider missing license headers a blocker. Are rules more lax within the Incubator? On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > > I had a look and things mostly look good, but

Re: [VOTE] Apache Cordova (incubating) 2.1.0

2012-09-24 Thread Noah Slater
Okay, thanks. :) On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Noah Slater wrote: > > Speaking as CouchDB's RM, I would consider missing license headers a > > blocker. > > > > Are rules more lax within the Incuba

How to handle non-OS jars in repository

2012-09-30 Thread Noah Slater
Hey, It came up on the CloudStack list that we have non-OS (I don't know the specific license, but I can find out if it's important) jars in the repository, and some people (at least one) is downloading them from that location for convenience. Obviously, we're not going to ship them, and we can c

Re: How to handle non-OS jars in repository

2012-09-30 Thread Noah Slater
gt; version control history? Where do they find the references to their > existence there? > > Noah Slater wrote on Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 22:41:53 +0100: > > Hey, > > > > It came up on the CloudStack list that we have non-OS (I don't know the > > specific licen

Re: How to handle non-OS jars in repository

2012-09-30 Thread Noah Slater
time back. Those are the only two that jump to mind that weren't under some sort of an > open source license, but my memory might be fallible. On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Noah Slater wrote: > In relation to the non-OS jars, Chiradeep Vittal wrote: > > I am currently

Re: How to handle non-OS jars in repository

2012-09-30 Thread Noah Slater
Okay cool. My root concern was that we have non-OS data in our repository. But if you think that's an academic concern (i.e. we've not released it, so it doesn't matter) then okay. On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > Noah Slater wrote on Sun, Sep 30, 2012

Re: How to handle non-OS jars in repository

2012-09-30 Thread Noah Slater
Thanks. :) On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > If you've not released it and you've deleted it from HEAD of all > branches, I think you're fine. > > Noah Slater wrote on Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 23:09:45 +0100: > > Okay cool. > > > >

Re: How to handle non-OS jars in repository

2012-10-01 Thread Noah Slater
Okay, thanks. :) On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > Podling frequently check in dubious IP as part of initial imports, and > then clean up HEAD later. I've never seen any evidence of a more > thorough extirpation. > >

Re: [VOTE] Apache Cordova (incubating) 2.1.0

2012-10-02 Thread Noah Slater
Congrats! On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Steven Gill wrote: > The vote has now closed. The results are: > > Bertrand Delacretaz +1 > Olivier Lamy + 1 > > Along with the 17 other +1's which can be viewed at > http://markmail.org/thread/lkgvtg3t6r3wxvwj. > > The vote is ***successful*** > > Apach

Re: How to handle non-OS jars in repository

2012-10-03 Thread Noah Slater
We have a situation with CloudStack where we have some jars that we do not know our distribution rights. If it turns out that we do not have the right to distribute them (Apache compatibility aside) what course of action should we take? On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Upayavira wrote: > Note, po

Can someone add me to the wiki Contributor Group?

2012-10-03 Thread Noah Slater
Hey, I'm trying to sign off on a board report, but I don't have edit permission. Can someone add me to the wiki Contributor Group? Thanks, -- NS

Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc])

2012-10-03 Thread Noah Slater
Can we please adjust this system to send the notice out two days prior? As it stands, this notice gives the project a single day to prepare the board report. As it happens, I missed it, because I didn't check my mail yesterday. Which is annoying, because I had some comments on what was proposed.

Re: Can someone add me to the wiki Contributor Group?

2012-10-03 Thread Noah Slater
Heh. "NoahSlater" :P On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 11:50 PM, David Crossley wrote: > Noah Slater wrote: > > > > I'm trying to sign off on a board report, but I don't have edit > permission. > > > > Can someone add me to the wiki Contributor G

Re: Can someone add me to the wiki Contributor Group?

2012-10-03 Thread Noah Slater
Danke! On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 11:59 PM, David Crossley wrote: > Noah Slater wrote: > > Heh. "NoahSlater" :P > > Done. > > -David > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubs

Re: Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc])

2012-10-03 Thread Noah Slater
customary in Apache. On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 12:15 AM, David Crossley wrote: > Noah Slater wrote: > > Can we please adjust this system to send the notice out two days prior? > > > > As it stands, this notice gives the project a single day to prepare the > > board repo

Re: Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc])

2012-10-04 Thread Noah Slater
Can we not run the cronjob ever day and have it wake up, do some date math, and then go back to sleep unless the moment is right. The moment being right defined as 72 hours before the deadline. On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 1:19

Seperate list for JIRA tickets

2012-10-05 Thread Noah Slater
Hey, The CloudStack dev@ list is... VERY high traffic. A lot of that are JIRA notifications. Can we, per Incubator policy, set up an issues@ list? (And STRONGLY encourage committers to subscribe to it.) I have not checked with the community to see if they want this, but I want to understand if i

Re: Project websites

2012-10-07 Thread Noah Slater
CloudStack dev@ should be copied in on this thread. On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 1:22 AM, Sheng Liang > wrote: > ... > > 1. When shall we redirect cloudstack.org to the Apache project page? > (e.g., http://incubator.apache.org/projec

Re: key signing

2012-10-08 Thread Noah Slater
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > > There's another side to this, which I would derisively label, 'so > what'? How does it help a user to see that my key is signed by 27 of > my fellow Apache contributors, if the user has never met any of us, > and has never met anyone who

Re: key signing

2012-10-08 Thread Noah Slater
This is an important point. Debian has a complete toolset and guidelines for managing this. http://www.debian.org/events/keysigning To quote: People should only sign a key under at least two conditions: 1. The key owner convinces the signer that the identity in the UID is > indeed their own

Re: key signing

2012-10-08 Thread Noah Slater
ng of a recluse!) On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Noah Slater wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Benson Margulies >wrote: > > > >> > >> There's another side to this, which I would derisive

Re: key signing

2012-10-08 Thread Noah Slater
Caveat: But I do think that if we do have a key signing guide (and I think we should) then it should be strict about our standards. (i.e. when and when not to sign somebody's key. Basic QA on what sort of "trust" we're trying to build here.) On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:15 PM

Re: key signing

2012-10-08 Thread Noah Slater
I don't know how to check that. Heh. Would be interested in giving it a shot. Are there tools to look up graphs? On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > Let's try a little statistically-invalid experiment of sample size > one. The last time I had a key signed at Apache, it was

Re: key signing

2012-10-08 Thread Noah Slater
Found one... Just poking around manually... J. Daniel Kulp http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x858FC4C4F43856A3 Signed by Carsten Ziegeler http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x132E49D4E41EDC7E Signed by Marcus Crafter http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op

Re: key signing

2012-10-09 Thread Noah Slater
, Oct 9, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Noah Slater wrote: > >> 1. The key owner convinces the signer that the identity in the UID is > >> indeed their own identity by whatever evidence the signer is willing to > >> accept as co

Re: key signing

2012-10-10 Thread Noah Slater
AM, Ted Dunning wrote: > If you know the person, it adds something that you don't get. > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Noah Slater wrote: > > > What, precisely, does a video call actually provide? > > > > The point of meeting in person is to verify photo IDs

Re: key signing

2012-10-10 Thread Noah Slater
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > > I have friends who live far away. I know them well. I don't know their > key fingerprint. > > If we send emails or if we text back and forth I not clear that it is > them. If I have a video conference and the hold up the fingerprint I kn

Re: key signing

2012-10-10 Thread Noah Slater
I've said it already in this thread, but I will say it one last time before I drop it. Archiving video provides zero benefits, beyond the human to human connection of seeing what somebody looks like. It provides no way to establish identity or ownership of email/keys that email does not already pro

Re: key signing

2012-10-10 Thread Noah Slater
Most people develop their own key signing policy and publish it. Or organisations as a whole do, and ask their members to adhere to it. Something which we might want to consider formalising. On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > Just to be clear, I don't think I've ever sign

Re: key signing - trust path check

2012-10-10 Thread Noah Slater
> work documenting and verifying release signing and keys: > > > https://people.apache.org/~**henkp/trust/<https://people.apache.org/~henkp/trust/> > > - Shane > > On 10/8/2012 6:37 PM, Noah Slater wrote: > >> Found one... Just poking around manually... >

Re: key signing

2012-10-11 Thread Noah Slater
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Nick Kew wrote: > > You have to extend that assumption not only to our infrastructure but to > every proxy that might come between us and a user, and that might > substitute a trojan along with the trojan's own SHA1. > The same reasoning holds for the .asc file.

Re: key signing

2012-10-11 Thread Noah Slater
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 9:48 AM, sebb wrote: > On 11 October 2012 02:39, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > Greg Stein wrote on Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 21:31:30 -0400: > >> Not too much. We still instruct users "take the signatures and verify > >> them against blah.apache.org/KEYS". John Blackhat could repla

Re: ${podling}.incubator.apache.org

2012-10-12 Thread Noah Slater
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din < nour.moham...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hmm, didn't notice that thread before, but still, as Joe pointed, > INFRA should give their opinion about it. > Does Daniel's original email not qualify for that? ;) -- NS

Re: key signing

2012-10-16 Thread Noah Slater
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > > 1) send email to him and his PMC fellows, referencing this thread, as > evidence that key signing is nice but optional. This seems like the most sensible option. AFAIK, signed keys have never been required to sign releases for Apache.

Re: key signing

2012-10-16 Thread Noah Slater
It had to be done, given this thread's epic proportions... ;) [image: Identity] http://xkcd.com/1121/ On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > I'm offering this discussion here, but it might need to go elsewhere > if it goes anywhere at all. > > It seems to me that the there is

Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-28 Thread Noah Slater
Hey, We're just voting on our first release, and I spotted this file in the root of the source: https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-cloudstack.git;a=blob_plain;f=waf;hb=HEAD It seems to be a sort of hybrid source/binary file. Very strange. Can we ship this? Thanks, -- NS

Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-29 Thread Noah Slater
Thanks for following up Chip. Though I do just want to clarify one misconception. On 29 October 2012 13:21, Chip Childers wrote: > > I actually have more than enough votes right now to close the thread > out on the project's dev list, and open up a vote for the IPMC. No you don't. To me, this

Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-29 Thread Noah Slater
On 29 October 2012 14:48, Chip Childers wrote: > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Noah Slater wrote: > > Thanks for following up Chip. Though I do just want to clarify one > > misconception. > > > > On 29 October 2012 13:21, Chip Childers > wrote: > >

Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-29 Thread Noah Slater
On 29 October 2012 15:09, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote: > Le 10/29/12 3:39 PM, Noah Slater a écrit : > > Thanks for following up Chip. Though I do just want to clarify one >> misconception. >> >> On 29 October 2012 13:21, Chip Childers >> wrote: >> >> I actua

Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-29 Thread Noah Slater
On 29 October 2012 15:13, Chip Childers wrote: > > I'll try to be more clear next time. I'm holding the vote open > specifically because of this outstanding question, *regardless* of the > current tally. That's what I was expressing. Understood. I suspected we were on the same page, but I wan

Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-29 Thread Noah Slater
Nice summary Bertrand. On 29 October 2012 15:22, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Chip Childers > wrote: > > ...Waf is a packaging utility, used to create RPMs and DEBs. Work is > > currently ongoing to remove it (and it's use) from the project > > entirely

Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-29 Thread Noah Slater
Thanks for investigating this, Chip. I am happy with us proceeding, but would caution us to think about addressing or documenting this in a later release. I'd say wait until tomorrow to see if anyone else objects then wrap up the vote. Let's ship this thing! On 29 October 2012 16:21, Chip Child

Re: [VOTE] Apache CloudStack 4.0.0-incubating

2012-10-30 Thread Noah Slater
> 5 IPMC votes have already been cast (on cloudstack-dev): > > +1 (PPMC / binding) > * Jim Jagielski (mentor) > * Olivier Lamy (mentor) > * Brett Porter (mentor) > * Daniel Kulp (mentor) > * Noah Slater (mentor) > > There were no -1 or +0 votes cast. > > Instruct

Re: [VOTE] Apache CloudStack 4.0.0-incubating

2012-10-30 Thread Noah Slater
Uh, would be handy if I included my vote. ;) An emphatic +1 On 30 October 2012 19:51, Noah Slater wrote: > Sig: OK > Hashes: OK > RAT: OK > Source: OK > Build: OK > Tests: OK > > (Based on my voting from yesterday during the project vote.) > > (See my post to

Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-31 Thread Noah Slater
Thanks for the clarification Roy. On 31 October 2012 05:29, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > [generic incubator comments -- nothing specific to CloudStack] ... > > On Oct 29, 2012, at 8:01 AM, Noah Slater wrote: > > On 29 October 2012 14:48, Chip Childers > wrote: > >> On Mo

Re: [VOTE] Graduate CloudStack from Incubator

2013-03-14 Thread Noah Slater
g 55 +1 votes (including > 4 from IPMC members), and no +0 or -1 votes. > > IPMC members voting +1 in the project-level thread are: > * Mohammad Nour El-Din (IPMC/mentor) [7] > * Noah Slater (IPMC/mentor) [8] > * Alex Karasulu (IPMC/mentor) [9] > * Brett Porter (IPMC/mentor)

Creating announce@ lists by default

2013-03-26 Thread Noah Slater
Incubator, Is there a reason we don't recommend podlings create an announce@ list by default? I am under the impression that having a low-volume, high-signal announcement channel is generally beneficial to most projects that try it. And comes with almost zero Infra overhead. I had a chat about t

Re: Creating announce@ lists by default

2013-03-26 Thread Noah Slater
ist just for announcements seems like too much for little gain. > The users list should suffice for announcements (with [ANN] in the subject). > > -JZ > > On Mar 26, 2013, at 4:05 AM, Noah Slater wrote: > > > Incubator, > > > > Is th

Re: Creating announce@ lists by default

2013-03-26 Thread Noah Slater
Yep. Obviously, I'm aware we have a foundation-wide announce list. :) It's not very helpful for people who are only interested in one or two projects, however. If I am using Hadoop, and only care about knowing about new Hadoop releases or security disclosures, I do not want to: a) subscribe to a

Re: Creating announce@ lists by default

2013-03-26 Thread Noah Slater
s are useful. On 26 March 2013 17:44, Luciano Resende wrote: > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Noah Slater wrote: > > Yep. Obviously, I'm aware we have a foundation-wide announce list. :) > > > > It's not very helpful for people who are only interested in one or t

Re: Creating announce@ lists by default

2013-03-27 Thread Noah Slater
Bertrand, yes, I am not sold on the idea of doing it by default. But perhaps sort of advisory, highlighting it as an option, and giving reasons why it might be a good idea for some projects? What would I have to do to add that? If I prepare a patch to the docs, would it be CTR or RTC? On 27 Marc

Re: Creating announce@ lists by default

2013-03-27 Thread Noah Slater
On 27 March 2013 16:28, Luciano Resende wrote: > > > Do the general announce list lag behind because there are individual lists > ? > I see no reason why they would. On 27 March 2013 16:31, Luciano Resende wrote: > > The minute that is in the guides, I'm positive that 100% of new > podlings p

Re: Creating announce@ lists by default

2013-03-27 Thread Noah Slater
On 27 March 2013 17:15, sebb wrote: > > Well, I found that sending a separate e-mail to announce@a.o was > useful for two reasons: > - more likely to get bounces; wanted to distinguish those from TLP list > bounces > - people sometime reply all > - announce@a.o requires an ASF address; I use GMai

Re: Creating announce@ lists by default

2013-03-27 Thread Noah Slater
Putting it in policy is probably as close as we can get to automation. ;) On 27 March 2013 17:23, Luciano Resende wrote: > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Noah Slater wrote: > > So we just set out a policy for podlings to follow that says something > > like: if you use a p

Re: Creating announce@ lists by default

2013-03-27 Thread Noah Slater
On 27 March 2013 18:37, Mark Struberg wrote: > My personal experience: There are a few people registered to > annou...@apache.org, but there is a low registration rate for the > respective subproject lists. At least not for most projects. > That's to be expected, though, right? We have something

Re: Creating announce@ lists by default

2013-03-30 Thread Noah Slater
Thanks Greg. Sane advice. I'll add this to my todo list and see if I can come up with a patch for the docs. On 28 March 2013 06:50, Greg Stein wrote: > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Noah Slater wrote: > >... > > I don't believe we should force an announce@

Re: Creating announce@ lists by default

2013-03-30 Thread Noah Slater
I really like this idea, Marvin. If you're gonna run with it, I'll take a step back. On 30 March 2013 15:39, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Noah Slater wrote: > > Thanks Greg. Sane advice. I'll add this to my todo list and see if I can >

Re: Process, policy and best practice

2013-04-01 Thread Noah Slater
ComDev could work to attract volunteers. I am sure there are more than a few people on the Incubator dev@ list at the moment who might consider moving over here to work on process and policy documentation... On 1 April 2013 19:19, Luciano Resende wrote: > On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Ross G

Re: Incubator structure (was Re: Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus)

2013-04-02 Thread Noah Slater
As far as I understand your comment, Ant, you mean to say that he problem is that there is too much variation in opinion and approach. (Primarily, I understand, in relation to releases.) This doesn't seem related to the size of the PMC, to me. We're always going to need a large pool of people with

[ANNOUNCE] David Nalley joins the Incubator PMC

2013-04-02 Thread Noah Slater
Dear community, I am pleased to announce that David Nalley joins the Incubator PMC. Please join me in extending a warm welcome to David! On behalf of the Incubator PMC, -- NS

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Henry Saputra as new Incubator PMC member

2013-04-02 Thread Noah Slater
Welcome, Henry! On 2 April 2013 16:53, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) < chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: > Hi All, > > Please join me in welcoming Henry Saputra to the Incubator PMC. > > Henry, welcome! Please feel free to share a bit about yourself. > > Cheers, > Chris > > ++

Re: Incubator structure (was Re: Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus)

2013-04-03 Thread Noah Slater
r the whole problem...) On 3 April 2013 09:29, ant elder wrote: > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Noah Slater wrote: > > > As far as I understand your comment, Ant, you mean to say that he problem > > is that there is too much variation in opinion and approach. (Primarily,

Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC

2013-05-07 Thread Noah Slater
On 7 May 2013 16:55, Upayavira wrote: > I guess that could be automated (grep through mail > archives for mentor email addresses each month), but until that > happens[...] > This could be done in a one-off fashion with a simple sh pipe. I'm not fond of to addressing social problems with technolo

Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC

2013-05-07 Thread Noah Slater
Not really. It's a heartbeat/health-check like any other distributed, unreliable system. I was tempted to say it's a social implementation of STONITH, but that might send the wrong message. ;) On 8 May 2013 00:53, Ross Gardler wrote: > On 7 May 2013 08:56, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > On Tue

Re: Creating announce@ lists by default

2013-05-09 Thread Noah Slater
Hey Marvin, Did you get anywhere with this? Thanks, On 30 March 2013 15:39, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Noah Slater wrote: > > Thanks Greg. Sane advice. I'll add this to my todo list and see if I can > > come up with a patch for the docs. &

[ANNOUNCE] Joe Brockmeier joins the Incubator PMC

2013-05-13 Thread Noah Slater
Dear community, I am pleased to announce that Joe Brockmeier joins the Incubator PMC. Please join me in extending a warm welcome to Joe! On behalf of the Incubator PMC, -- NS

Re: [PROPOSAL] MetaModel for the Apache Incubator

2013-05-31 Thread Noah Slater
I would be interested in mentoring this project. (I am a CouchDB PMC member.) On Tuesday, 28 May 2013, Henry Saputra wrote: > Dear ASF members, > > We would like to propose MetaModel for the incubator. > > Matt Franklin will be the Champion for this project and the proposal draft > is available a

Re: [PROPOSAL] MetaModel for the Apache Incubator

2013-05-31 Thread Noah Slater
Sure! On Friday, 31 May 2013, Henry Saputra wrote: > Awesome! Looks like perfect match too! > > Can I also add you as initial contributors? > > - Henry > > > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Noah Slater wrote: > > > I would be interested in mentoring

Re: [PROPOSAL] MetaModel for the Apache Incubator

2013-06-05 Thread Noah Slater
I sent a note to the CouchDB list to see if anyone else wants to volunteer as a mentor. On 31 May 2013 21:35, Henry Saputra wrote: > Added Noah Slater (nslater at apache dot org) as mentor and initial > committer to the proposal. > > - Henry > > > On Tue, May 28, 20

Re: [PROPOSAL] MetaModel for the Apache Incubator

2013-06-05 Thread Noah Slater
> > - Henry > > On Wednesday, June 5, 2013, Noah Slater wrote: > > > I sent a note to the CouchDB list to see if anyone else wants > > to volunteer as a mentor. > > > > > > On 31 May 2013 21:35, Henry Saputra wrote: > > > > > Added Noah Sla

Re: [PROPOSAL] MetaModel for the Apache Incubator

2013-06-06 Thread Noah Slater
discussions have calmed down so if no one object I will > start the VOTE thread sometime today. > > Thanks, > > Henry > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:24 AM, Noah Slater wrote: > > > Great. I assume that if someone is eager to join as a mentor and the vote > &

Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache MetaModel into the Apache incubator

2013-06-07 Thread Noah Slater
taModel (METAMODEL) > > === Other resources === > > We would like to have wiki page located at: > http://wiki.apache.org/MetaModel > > In later development phase a set of database servers (specifically MongoDB, > CouchDB, MySQL, PostgreSQL, MS SQL Server (Express), Firebi

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

2013-06-13 Thread Noah Slater
Ross, thanks for bringing this up! I'm happy to be a part of this experiment. On 13 June 2013 09:13, Ross Gardler wrote: > "Better" yes - "required" before we can vote - no. My reasoning is > that WSO2 have already agreed they will use a different name if VP > Branding requires it. In fact they

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Accept Apache MetaModel into the Apache incubator

2013-06-13 Thread Noah Slater
a* > Matt Franklin* > Chris Mattmann* > Noah Slater* > Rahul Sharma > Ankit Kumar > Christian Grobmeier* > Arvind Prabhakar* > Kasper Sorensen > Noah Slater* > Manuel Van den Berg > Joe Brockmeier* > Suresh Marru* > Ted Dunning* > Rich Bowen > Alan Cabr

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

2013-06-13 Thread Noah Slater
On 13 June 2013 11:21, Ross Gardler wrote: > > This is the root of why CouchDB has a problem today. I believe you a > projecting that problem and its cause onto a different issue here. > This is not about allowing WSO2 an exception to the existing policy. > It is about giving WSO2, the Stratos pr

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

2013-06-18 Thread Noah Slater
+1 On 14 June 2013 22:49, Ross Gardler wrote: > I would like to invite the IPMC vote to accept the Stratos proposal [1]. > > I want to clarify that this vote is for the Stratos project to enter > the incubator as a standard podling under the existing incubation > policy. The acceptance or other

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

2013-06-20 Thread Noah Slater
Woot. Thanks Ross! On 20 June 2013 12:26, Ross Gardler wrote: > This vote is now closed. The Vote passed. > > Podling committers can start the process of setting up the project [1] > (note some actions require the support of your mentors). > > There are no -1 votes and plenty of both binding an

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] BigCouch

2013-06-26 Thread Noah Slater
Woop! Thanks Bob! +1 On 26 June 2013 13:55, Robert Newson wrote: > Cloudant has donated the source code artifact detailed at [1] to the ASF. > This email is to request lazy consensus from the IPMC for the IP > clearance of this donation. > > B > > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/co

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] BigCouch

2013-06-26 Thread Noah Slater
SGA being filed that details the contribution? > > - Dennis > > -----Original Message- > From: Noah Slater [mailto:nsla...@apache.org] > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 06:03 AM > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [IP CLEARANCE] BigCouch > > Woop! Thanks

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] BigCouch

2013-06-26 Thread Noah Slater
stance. On 26 June 2013 17:35, Noah Slater wrote: > Ah, I see what you are saying. > > I believe this might just be some unfortunate wording in the IP Clearance > template. > > This: > > "Check and make sure that the files that have been donated have been > updated

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] BigCouch

2013-06-26 Thread Noah Slater
sive licenses > granted in SGAs and CLAs are not transfers. (Since "standing" is much in > the news today, another way to put it is that the ASF has no power to sue > for infringement of copyright in the contributed works, nor any patent > infringement related to the use o

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] BigCouch

2013-06-26 Thread Noah Slater
> I would definitely change the heading from "Copyright" to "Licensing" too. > > - Dennis > > -Original Message- > From: Robert Newson [mailto:rnew...@apache.org] > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 09:36 AM > To: general@incubator.apache.or

Re: Creating announce@ lists by default

2013-07-03 Thread Noah Slater
Nice. Thanks Marvin! On 3 July 2013 06:00, Craig L Russell wrote: > Marvin, > > Nice work. +1 > > Craig > > On Jul 2, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Noah Slater wrote: > >> Hey Marvin, > >> >

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