On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Atri Sharma wrote:
> ...Following the discussion about Concerted I would like to call a vote for
> accepting Concerted as a new incubator project...
+1
-Bertrand
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On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 11:20 PM, Julian Hyde wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Alan D. Cabrera
> wrote:
> > Should != Must
>
> Yes, I know. But I didn't want to have everyone leap into yet another
> long-winded debate with no one even having mentioned that there is
> existing policy on
The Apache REEF PPMC has voted to release Apache REEF 0.13.0-incubating
based on the release candidate described below. Now it is the IPMC's turn
to vote.
The PPMC vote passed with 5 +1 votes:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-reef-dev/201510.mbox/%3CBL2PR03MB2900A370B6F6894F8E08E
Did the usual checks;
- Sigs, hash etc checks
- unpacks fine
- license, notice present
- Things are apache licensed :)
There are a few C# files missing license headers, see
http://compliance.rocks/result.html?23410ea9 - but that's nothing that
can't be fixed. I also saw a BSD license but no BSD li
I'd like to make a suggestion - after a podling graduates or is terminated,
the podling's mentors should be responsible for putting together a post
mortem report, or an exit interview, or whatever you want to call it. This
would cover the pain points in onboarding the podling, particular issues
hit
Fellow mentors,
There was a conversation at ApacheCon about the Incubator. I'll leave it
to the other participants to champion the particular parts that they are
passionate about, but I was particularly concerned with mentor
disengagement, and suggestions for improving it.
A mentor's role is
I like this idea, +1.
Tommaso
2015-10-12 13:18 GMT+02:00 Andrew Bayer :
> I'd like to make a suggestion - after a podling graduates or is terminated,
> the podling's mentors should be responsible for putting together a post
> mortem report, or an exit interview, or whatever you want to call it.
On behalf of the Johnzon PPMC i would like to let you know that that
we currently discussing about graduating Johnzon out of the Incubator.
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-johnzon-dev/201510.mbox/%3CCAPm%3DoFDF6guVNc6HS%3D2TA5iBrx2X45JvFfaFpGiT%3DHg%2BnE7s_w%40mail.gmail.com%3E
That work under the assumption that all Jane has to deliver is a working
software. If the company is also interested in increasing its reputation by
allowing their marketing department to say thing like "We initiated the
Apache Foobar project", or "Apache OpenOffice natively supports our file
forma
Le 12/10/15 13:18, Rich Bowen a écrit :
> Fellow mentors,
>
> There was a conversation at ApacheCon about the Incubator. I'll leave
> it to the other participants to champion the particular parts that
> they are passionate about, but I was particularly concerned with
> mentor disengagement, and sug
Le 11/10/15 17:59, Andrew Pennebaker a écrit :
> In the future, could Apache Incubator require projects to maintain better
> API documentation before graduation? In particular, Kafka has rather sparse
> documentation in v0.8. The Javadocs appear to be randomly hosted on this or
> that professor web
Hi,
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Andrew Bayer wrote:
> ...I'd like to make a suggestion - after a podling graduates or is terminated,
> the podling's mentors should be responsible for putting together a post
> mortem report, or an exit interview, or whatever you want to call it...
I like the
I understand your concern but, at present, I don't see it
being an issue nor something that we need worry about.
We hope and trust mentors to wear their hats well.
> On Oct 9, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>
> Hi Incubator folks,
>
> I would like to propose we adopt a mentor neutralit
Hi,
> We hope and trust mentors to wear their hats well.
This quote from a colleague of mine has always stuck with me:
"Hope is not a strategy."
Take care,
Marko.
http://markorodriguez.com
>
>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>>
>> Hi Incubator folks,
>>
>> I wou
On 10/12/2015 10:10 AM, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote:
Regarding inactive mentors, this is quite simple : we have a monthly
report that has to be signed off by mentors, if one mentor does not sign
it three time in a raw, shouldn't we consider that this mentor has
already stepped down ?
No, it's no
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Rich Bowen wrote:
> ...It would be very welcome to have this attached to a graduation
> resolution, so that we could have some background beyond just a boilerplate
> "time to graduate" message
I agree, and IMO our maturity model [1] would provide a good framew
Hi,
It sounds like ruminations about the Incubator are on the increase again,
so I figured I'd wake up from my slumber and share an insight of mine.
I believe the way the Incubator is organized sets an upper bound on the
number of podlings it can effectively manage. Based on experience and
histor
But it is basically *core* to who and what we are.
> On Oct 12, 2015, at 10:52 AM, Marko Rodriguez wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>> We hope and trust mentors to wear their hats well.
>
> This quote from a colleague of mine has always stuck with me:
>
> "Hope is not a strategy."
>
> Take care,
> Mar
On 10/12/2015 10:49 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Andrew Bayer wrote:
...I'd like to make a suggestion - after a podling graduates or is terminated,
the podling's mentors should be responsible for putting together a post
mortem report, or an exit intervi
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Rich Bowen wrote:
>> ...It would be very welcome to have this attached to a graduation
>> resolution, so that we could have some background beyond just a boilerplate
>> "time to graduate" message
>
Since when is the incubation process a race that must be completed in the
least amount of time? If it is, it would surely validate (for some) cutting
corners and push-through actions (and associated tactics). Is that what the
ASF wants or needs?
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
*OFBiz Extensions Marke
Hi All,
As mentioned in the DISCUSS thread, all feedback has been positive on
the Mynewt proposal, so I'd like to call a VOTE to accept Mynewt as a
new ASF incubator project.
The full text of the proposal is available on the incubator wiki at
the following URL:
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/
On 10/12/2015 11:55 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
Since when is the incubation process a race that must be completed in the
least amount of time? If it is, it would surely validate (for some) cutting
corners and push-through actions (and associated tactics). Is that what the
ASF wants or needs?
H
The practical effect on me of this requirement would be that
a) I couldn't have mentored Drill
b) I couldn't have mentored Zookeeper (assuming it were to come along now)
c) I couldn't mentor Kylin (it affects Drill and MapR customers are
considering using it)
d) I couldn't mentor Calcite (same
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Sterling Hughes wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> As mentioned in the DISCUSS thread, all feedback has been positive on
> the Mynewt proposal, so I'd like to call a VOTE to accept Mynewt as a
> new ASF incubator project.
>
> The full text of the proposal is available on the inc
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Sterling Hughes wrote:
> As mentioned in the DISCUSS thread, all feedback has been positive on
> the Mynewt proposal, so I'd like to call a VOTE to accept Mynewt as a
> new ASF incubator project.
>
> The full text of the proposal is available on the incubator wiki
> On Oct 12, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Sterling Hughes wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> As mentioned in the DISCUSS thread, all feedback has been positive on
> the Mynewt proposal, so I'd like to call a VOTE to accept Mynewt as a
> new ASF incubator project.
>
> The full text of the proposal is available on th
I would not have been able to mentor Phoenix should it have come along now.
At the time I was not employed by the originator of the project. Later I
chose to join them in part because they contributed the results of their
labor to Apache. My evaluation of how well a podling might be
functioning wou
+1 (binding)
Regards
JB
On 10/12/2015 06:04 PM, Sterling Hughes wrote:
Hi All,
As mentioned in the DISCUSS thread, all feedback has been positive on
the Mynewt proposal, so I'd like to call a VOTE to accept Mynewt as a
new ASF incubator project.
The full text of the proposal is available on t
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Rich Bowen wrote:
>
> On 10/12/2015 10:10 AM, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote:
>>
>> Regarding inactive mentors, this is quite simple : we have a monthly
>> report that has to be signed off by mentors, if one mentor does not sign
>> it three time in a raw, shouldn't we co
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> It sounds like ruminations about the Incubator are on the increase again,
I hope that we can make use of some of this bursting energy and channel it
into incremental improvements.
The Incubator is a stable platform, and it has been functio
Incubator PMC report for October 2015
The Apache Incubator is the entry path into the ASF for projects and
codebases wishing to become part of the Foundation's efforts.
There are 44 podlings currently undergoing incubation.
* Community
New IPMC members:
- Josh Elser
- Sterling Hughes
*
Hi,
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 2:50 PM Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> > It sounds like ruminations about the Incubator are on the increase again,
>
> I hope that we can make use of some of this bursting energy and channel it
> into incremental impro
Fantastic analysis Jukka.
Fan-freaking-tastic.
Cheers,
Chris
++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Chief Architect
Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398)
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 168-519,
Continuing this line of reasoning I won't be able to mentor _any_ of the
projects I've mentored or still mentoring because of different levels of
involvements either at my $dayjob or with the organizations that donated the
code initially. Is this really an intent of the original proposal to prevent
On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 06:52PM, Reto Gmür wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Roman Shaposhnik
> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> > > Hi Incubator folks,
> > >
> > > I would like to propose we adopt a mentor neutrality policy for
> > > incubating podling
On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 02:45PM, Pierre Smits wrote:
> Producing good code is a community effort. When it comes down to just the
> mentors fix that themselves, there is something wrong with the community of
> the podling.
>
> This discussion is not about what participants do with their mentor hat
And still -1 on the revised proposal for the same reasons I stated before.
Cos
On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 11:39PM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> First off: Can we *please* focus on the revised proposal and not get
> into a loop about the original email? I'll change the topic if that helps.
>
> The revised
Mentors are, by definition, either:
A) ASF Members
B) someone who has shown enough understanding of the Apache Way to be invited
to the IPMC (and should at least be considered for membership, IMHO).
I would think that in either case, they should know how/when/why to check their
corporate affili
+1 (binding)
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Sterling Hughes
wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> As mentioned in the DISCUSS thread, all feedback has been positive on
> the Mynewt proposal, so I'd like to call a VOTE to accept Mynewt as a
> new ASF incubator project.
>
> The full text of the proposal is avai
+1 (binding)
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Pierre: by "time to graduate", Rich meant "ready to graduate". Not the
amount of time from entry until graduation.
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Pierre Smits
wrote:
> Since when is the incubation process a race that must be completed in the
> least amount of time? If it is, it would surely v
+1 (binding)
-Taylor
> On Oct 12, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Sterling Hughes wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> As mentioned in the DISCUSS thread, all feedback has been positive on
> the Mynewt proposal, so I'd like to call a VOTE to accept Mynewt as a
> new ASF incubator project.
>
> The full text of the propo
>
> ODF Toolkit
>
> Java modules that allow programmatic creation, scanning and manipulation of
> OpenDocument Format (ISO/IEC 26300 == ODF) documents
>
> Shepherd/Mentor notes:
>
> Rob Weir (robweir):
>
> No report submitted, though I did remind the PPMC. I sense some
> * Did not report, expected next month
>
> - BatchEE
> - Climate Model Diagnostic Analyzer (2 months late)
> - Cotton (2 months late)
> - DataFu
> - HORN
> - ODF Toolkit
> - Ripple (4 months late)
A disappointingly large number of podlings did not report this month. It is
probably
Please add Brooklyn to the Graduations section. It's already added to
the Board agenda.
Thanks,
Hadrian
On 10/12/2015 03:11 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
Incubator PMC report for October 2015
The Apache Incubator is the entry path into the ASF for projects and
codebases wishing to become part of
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote:
> Please add Brooklyn to the Graduations section. It's already added to the
> Board agenda.
Done -- thanks!
Marvin Humphrey
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On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 7:21 PM, Marvin Humphrey
wrote:
> > [ ](myriad) Benjamin Hindman
> > [ ](myriad) Danese Cooper
> > [ ](myriad) Ted Dunning
> > [ ](myriad) Luciano Resende
>
> Can we get please get sign-off for Myriad? They turned in a very thorough
> report this month.
Signed.
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 4:02 PM, P. Taylor Goetz wrote:
> Mentors are, by definition, either:
>
> A) ASF Members
> B) someone who has shown enough understanding of the Apache Way to be
> invited to the IPMC (and should at least be considered for membership,
> IMHO).
>
In at least one case, a men
I think that this is an excellent analysis.
The (gut) feeling I have about scarce resources are:
1) me. As Marvin noted, I am a failure mode as much as a contributor
lately. This is largely due to my crazy travel schedule combined with lots
of short term deliverables. Marvin has lightened that
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
> Now on to the substance of my reply:
>
> https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/signoff
>
> If we can get some volunteers to split this list up, perhaps we can
> reach out to those that haven't been participating in signoffs and see
> what changes
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>
> Now on to the substance of my reply:
>
> https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/signoff
>
> If we can get some volunteers to split this list up, perhaps we can
> reach out to those that haven't been participating in signoffs and see
> what change
With respect to " I hope that we can manage that a bit by pushing to recognize
common points of reference, move on to points difference and only then start
discussing solutions." I remind everyone of a perfect starting point for this -
perhaps we can focus on constructively updating
http://wiki
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 12:39 AM, Ted Dunning wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>
>> Now on to the substance of my reply:
>>
>> https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/signoff
>>
>> If we can get some volunteers to split this list up, perhaps we can
>> reach out to those that
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
>
> - It seems that an incorrect date in the Board meeting calendar caused the
> report reminders to fire a week early, requiring manual cleanup after the
> correct date was established. There was discussion of migrating the
>
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:05 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
> > Sounds like reaching out to the inactive mentors is a great idea and I
> > think we have a great example here of how complicated it can be.
>
> Nope. I posted that link knowing that my name would be on it, and
> advocated that we should be ha
Good luck!
On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Stefan Reich <
stefan.reich.maker.of@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Incubator does not incubate. Apache is poor. Will get money anyway.
>
> Try JavaX.
>
> Cheers
> Stefan
>
Thanks Greg,
That clarifies a lot.
Best regards,
Pierre
Op dinsdag 13 oktober 2015 heeft Greg Stein het volgende
geschreven:
> Pierre: by "time to graduate", Rich meant "ready to graduate". Not the
> amount of time from entry until graduation.
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Pierre Smit
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