Re: March 2015 Incubator report timeline

2015-03-04 Thread John D. Ament
All, Just a reminder that podling reports are due today. the following podlings have not reported yet: BatchEE (2nd month) Ignite Kalumet Kylin Ranger Sentry Streams Thanks, John On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 5:54 PM John D. Ament wrote: > Howdy ya'll > > > Trying to get an early start on the nex

Re: [VOTE] Accept CommonsRDF into the Apache Incubator

2015-03-04 Thread Sergio Fernández
+1 (binding) Thanks everybody for your contributions to this proposal. Particularly Lewis John Mcgibbney for taking care of the VOTE. I still need to catch-up my mail of the last two vacations weeks to get an overview of the latest discussions. On 27/02/15 20:19, Lewis John Mcgibbney wrote

GPL Code in GitHub

2015-03-04 Thread Julian Tenney
Question: I know I've seen this discussed here before, and in any case, you guys are the best source for an answer: Can we have GPL code in a repository as long as that is not distributed with the product in a 'official' release? Thanks a lot, Julian This message and any attachment are int

Re: GPL Code in GitHub

2015-03-04 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi Julian, the code is not included in the project (just a reference) ? Regards JB On 03/04/2015 02:44 PM, Julian Tenney wrote: Question: I know I've seen this discussed here before, and in any case, you guys are the best source for an answer: Can we have GPL code in a repository as long as

Re: GPL Code in GitHub

2015-03-04 Thread Matt Franklin
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 8:45 AM Julian Tenney wrote: > Question: I know I've seen this discussed here before, and in any case, > you guys are the best source for an answer: > > Can we have GPL code in a repository as long as that is not distributed > with the product in a 'official' release? > Th

Re: GPL Code in GitHub

2015-03-04 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
It depends how you integrate it - you can't put LGPL or GPL stuff into distributions from Apache - and you can't really do a release that is incomplete without it (e.g. "To make X work, download the GPL library Y and put it into lib") Optional dependencies (e.g. plugins) should however be fine to

Re: GPL Code in GitHub

2015-03-04 Thread Benson Margulies
An Apache project may not manage a codebase outside of Apache. Some people who happen to be members of an Apache community can maintain code outside of Apache, if they are very clear in distinguishing; it must not be a product of the project. See 'Apache Extras'. On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Je

RE: GPL Code in GitHub

2015-03-04 Thread Julian Tenney
Thanks. -Original Message- From: Stian Soiland-Reyes [mailto:st...@apache.org] Sent: 04 March 2015 15:14 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: GPL Code in GitHub It depends how you integrate it - you can't put LGPL or GPL stuff into distributions from Apache - and you can't real

Re: GPL Code in GitHub

2015-03-04 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Exactly, that's why I asked ;) Just to be sure, else it's an issue IMHO. Regards JB On 03/04/2015 04:14 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: An Apache project may not manage a codebase outside of Apache. Some people who happen to be members of an Apache community can maintain code outside of Apache, if

RE: GPL Code in GitHub

2015-03-04 Thread Julian Tenney
We have two things that are GPL: one is optional, I don't have any problem with that. I'm trying to get a bit more understanding of the other one! But the point is taken: if that component is needed to make a certain function work, and that function is considered a central part of the software (

Re: GPL Code in GitHub

2015-03-04 Thread Matt Franklin
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:23 AM Julian Tenney < julian.ten...@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote: > We have two things that are GPL: one is optional, I don't have any problem > with that. I'm trying to get a bit more understanding of the other one! > > But the point is taken: if that component is needed to m

RE: GPL Code in GitHub

2015-03-04 Thread Julian Tenney
> The following should help the developer understand why we can't accept GPL > code in Apache projects: The question is more about when does 'distribution' happen? When you put something in your github? Or when you make a release and the files associated with that release? -Original Messag

Re: GPL Code in GitHub

2015-03-04 Thread John D. Ament
I notice that apache-extras is now forwarding to Any23. Is that on purpose? On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:15 AM Benson Margulies wrote: > An Apache project may not manage a codebase outside of Apache. Some people > who happen to be members of an Apache community can maintain code outside > of Apach

www.apache-extras.org wrong redirect (was: GPL Code in GitHub)

2015-03-04 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
That must be a configuration error for http://www.apache-extras.org/ http://apache-extras.org/ redirect correctly to https://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/hosting/ I've raised it as https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9229 On 4 March 2015 at 15:26, John D. Ament wrote: > I notice

RE: GPL Code in GitHub

2015-03-04 Thread Julian Tenney
I have a feeling it is some alternative authentication thing. It's optional, to make the project work under certain circumstances. -Original Message- From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré [mailto:j...@nanthrax.net] Sent: 04 March 2015 13:47 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: GPL Code in

Re: GPL Code in GitHub

2015-03-04 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
Releases explained here: https://www.apache.org/dev/release.html Basically putting into git/svn is not a release - but as anyone (practically any committer) can propose a release candidate for voting based on the code in the source code repository, it should still be code that is distributable un

Re: GPL Code in GitHub

2015-03-04 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
There's not strictly a legal problem with the GPL-using code to be in Apache's source code repository (and itself be under the Apache license) - but due to the 'viral' nature of GPL, any compiled products become GPL as well. For LGPL dependencies this is less of a worry - but still LGPL comes with

RE: GPL Code in GitHub

2015-03-04 Thread Julian Tenney
It provides some alternative authentication I think. It's not mine: I found it there and needed to check out licensing issues etc. Most of it, in fact can be deleted. But the point " There cannot be any GPL code in an Apache repository or in an Apache release" is the stance we will take. It's s

RE: GPL Code in GitHub

2015-03-04 Thread Julian Tenney
Thanks to everyone for their contributions. The key uncertainty is whether GPL code in the github is problematic, and the answer is 'yes'. I wrote the following back to our own lists: "The whole reason to do Apache license is to make it super-crystal clear that this code is absolutely fine fo

RE: GPL Code in GitHub

2015-03-04 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
In *github* you should not be worried about GPL code. In git.apache.org you should. (Apache's git repos are mirrored back again to github.com/apache but that is another matter) Apologies for not knowing your context.. If you are staging the github repos to move them into Apache, then I would remo

RE: GPL Code in GitHub

2015-03-04 Thread Julian Tenney
OK, we are Xerte Project, we make multimedia authoring tools for educators - it's a successful project. Last year we decided we wanted to transition stewardship of the software from University of Nottingham, where I work, to a foundation. We are working through the incubation process at the Aper

Re: Soliciting feedback for a detailed pTLP policy document

2015-03-04 Thread Doug Cutting
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > At this point, I would like to open this document for soliciting as > wide a feedback as possible. I would like to especially request > attention of the ASF board members who asked for this type of > a document to be available. As a direct

Re: Soliciting feedback for a detailed pTLP policy document

2015-03-04 Thread Benson Margulies
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Doug Cutting wrote: > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > > At this point, I would like to open this document for soliciting as > > wide a feedback as possible. I would like to especially request > > attention of the ASF board members who ask

Re: Soliciting feedback for a detailed pTLP policy document

2015-03-04 Thread Sam Ruby
On 03/04/2015 01:41 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Doug Cutting mailto:cutt...@apache.org>> wrote: On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Roman Shaposhnik mailto:r...@apache.org>> wrote: > At this point, I would like to open this document for soliciting as >

Re: Soliciting feedback for a detailed pTLP policy document

2015-03-04 Thread Jim Jagielski
The bylaws don't grok the idea of a "provisional" PMC; it either is one, or it isn't. So whether we call it provisional or not, legally we need to understand whether we actually want it as a real, official PMC or not. And if we do, what, again, does the "provisional" qualifier really mean? > On M

Re: Report reminders haven't fired

2015-03-04 Thread Jim Jagielski
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Re: Report reminders haven't fired

2015-03-04 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > And with a major assist from Humbledooh, Marvin is back up > and running! Go go go the-other-marvin! Thanks Jim and Daniel! -- the other-other-Marvin - To unsubscribe, e-

Re: Report reminders haven't fired

2015-03-04 Thread John D. Ament
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 3:34 PM Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > And with a major assist from Humbledooh, Marvin is back up > > and running! > > Go go go the-other-marvin! > > Thanks Jim and Daniel! > > -- the other-other-Marvin > Great news, we

[RESULT] WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept CommonsRDF into the Apache Incubator

2015-03-04 Thread Lewis John Mcgibbney
Hi general@, I am bringing this VOTE a a close. We have the following RESULT to report. [13] +1 I am happy with Commons RDF entering incubation Alan D. Cabrera Chris Mattmann* Benedikt Ritter Lewis J. McGibbney* John D. Ament (Gary is now on board as mentor) Rob Vesse Hadrian Zbarcea Sergio Ferná

[ANNOUNCE] Aapche Lens 2.0.1-beta-incubating release

2015-03-04 Thread Amareshwari Sriramdasu
Hi all, The Apache Lens team is proud to announce the release of Apache Lens 2.0.1-beta-incutaing. This is the first release of Apache Lens. Apache Lens provides an Unified Analytics interface. Lens aims to cut the Data Analytics silos by providing a single view of data across multiple tiered dat

Re: [RESULT] WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept CommonsRDF into the Apache Incubator

2015-03-04 Thread jan i
On Thursday, March 5, 2015, Lewis John Mcgibbney wrote: > Hi general@, > > I am bringing this VOTE a a close. We have the following RESULT to report. > > [13] +1 I am happy with Commons RDF entering incubation > Alan D. Cabrera > Chris Mattmann* > Benedikt Ritter > Lewis J. McGibbney* > John D. A