Lokahi scavengers alert (was Re: [VOTE] Mothball/Pause Lokahi)

2009-08-12 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Is there something for projects to cherrypick/scavenge? E.g. some code that can be merged into Tomcat, commons, or any of the web frameworks that are around? Is this something we could send to all PMCs for any podling that is going to be paused/mothballed? Martijn On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 6:50 AM,

Re: [VOTE] Mothball/Pause Lokahi

2009-08-12 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 6:50 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > PMC and others, > > Lokahi's community has collapsed long time ago and albeit Noel's > repeated efforts to create interest around the project, there is no > signs of any improvement. > I am therefor calling a vote to mothball/pause the pr

Re: [VOTE] Mothball/Pause Lokahi

2009-08-12 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, [x] +1, go ahead and mothball/pause Lokahi, PS. Why we're inventing new terms? We've been using "retire" for years, and it's consistently mentioned in existing documentation (see [1] and [2]). [1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/#Retired+from+incubation [2] http://wiki.apache.org/incuba

New Terms [was; VOTE....]

2009-08-12 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > PS. Why we're inventing new terms? We've been using "retire" for > years, and it's consistently mentioned in existing documentation (see > [1] and [2]). *I* don't know, nor do I really care. Other people can do the bikeshedding ;-) And I ag

Re: Does an incubation proposal require a codebase?

2009-08-12 Thread J Aaron Farr
On Tue 11 Aug 2009 04:06, Upayavira wrote: > There are two reasons why it is more heavyweight: because we haven't > spent huge amounts of time/money automating our infrastructure and > putting it behind a pretty web UI, but more importantly because we pay > more attention to the legals, ensuring

Re: incorrect terminology: lead developers

2009-08-12 Thread J Aaron Farr
On Tue 11 Aug 2009 11:28, Greg Brown wrote: > Thanks, Niclas. Very appropriate material. This very clearly draws a > distinction between the terms "leader" (as I have been attempting to > use it) and "manager" (by which I would never describe myself). > > IMO, successful projects (including thos

Re: [VOTE] Mothball/Pause Lokahi

2009-08-12 Thread J Aaron Farr
On Wed 12 Aug 2009 12:50, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > PMC and others, > > Lokahi's community has collapsed long time ago and albeit Noel's > repeated efforts to create interest around the project, there is no > signs of any improvement. > I am therefor calling a vote to mothball/pause the project. Pl

Re: [VOTE] Mothball/Pause Lokahi

2009-08-12 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:23 PM, J Aaron Farr wrote: > -1 > > Can we at least ping the lokahi-dev list to let them know the vote is > taking place. I think this request is "not really needed", as failure to report is IMHO the sign that no one cares. But feel free to post... Cheers -- Niclas He

Re: [VOTE] Mothball/Pause Lokahi

2009-08-12 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > I think this request is "not really needed", as failure to report is > IMHO the sign that no one cares. > But feel free to post... I sent a note about this to lokahi-...@. BR, Jukka Zitting ---

Re: [VOTE] Mothball/Pause Lokahi

2009-08-12 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Aug 12, 2009, at 12:50 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: PMC and others, Lokahi's community has collapsed long time ago and albeit Noel's repeated efforts to create interest around the project, there is no signs of any improvement. I am therefor calling a vote to mothball/pause the project. Please

Re: New Terms [was; VOTE....]

2009-08-12 Thread Richard S. Hall
On 8/12/09 5:44, Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: PS. Why we're inventing new terms? We've been using "retire" for years, and it's consistently mentioned in existing documentation (see [1] and [2]). *I* don't know, nor do I really care. Oth

Re: [VOTE] Mothball/Pause Lokahi

2009-08-12 Thread Richard S. Hall
+1 On 8/12/09 0:50, Niclas Hedhman wrote: PMC and others, Lokahi's community has collapsed long time ago and albeit Noel's repeated efforts to create interest around the project, there is no signs of any improvement. I am therefor calling a vote to mothball/pause the project. Please place your

Re: [VOTE] Mothball/Pause Lokahi

2009-08-12 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 On 08/12/2009 10:29 AM, Richard S. Hall wrote: +1 On 8/12/09 0:50, Niclas Hedhman wrote: PMC and others, Lokahi's community has collapsed long time ago and albeit Noel's repeated efforts to create interest around the project, there is no signs of any improvement. I am therefor calling a vo

Re: [VOTE] Mothball/Pause Lokahi

2009-08-12 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 Craig On Aug 11, 2009, at 9:50 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: PMC and others, Lokahi's community has collapsed long time ago and albeit Noel's repeated efforts to create interest around the project, there is no signs of any improvement. I am therefor calling a vote to mothball/pause the project

Re: XAP?

2009-08-12 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > Agree, and I don't think you need to wait if you don't want to... Yeah, I guess I'll just get it done next weekend. Re: the trademark issue. I guess the other party is just fine with the fact that we're retiring the project. We can alw

Re: XAP?

2009-08-12 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Agree... finding a retired podling takes some effort, and if it still manages to get higher ranking at Google et al, well, what can we say... -- Niclas On Aug 12, 2009 11:45 PM, "Jukka Zitting" wrote: Hi, On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > Agree, and I don't thi... Yeah,

Re: SocialSite Podling status ?

2009-08-12 Thread Luciano Resende
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Dave wrote: > We reported late one month, then missed a report last month. > > I just added a report for this month. Here's the part that deals with > the missing code issue: > > "The project has been incubating since April 30, 2009. The SVN space, > mailing lists a

Re: SocialSite Podling status ?

2009-08-12 Thread Dave
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Luciano Resende wrote: > On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Dave wrote: >> We reported late one month, then missed a report last month. >> >> I just added a report for this month. Here's the part that deals with >> the missing code issue: >> >> "The project has been i

Re: [VOTE] Mothball/Pause Lokahi

2009-08-12 Thread Yoav Shapira
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > PMC and others, > > Lokahi's community has collapsed long time ago and albeit Noel's > repeated efforts to create interest around the project, there is no > signs of any improvement. > I am therefor calling a vote to mothball/pause the proje

Re: [VOTE] Mothball/Pause Lokahi

2009-08-12 Thread Yoav Shapira
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Yoav Shapira wrote: > On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: >> PMC and others, >> >> Lokahi's community has collapsed long time ago and albeit Noel's >> repeated efforts to create interest around the project, there is no >> signs of any improvement