Re: Commons issues WAS RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator

2009-04-16 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Matt Benson wrote: >  * IPMC informally agrees that the opinion of any TLP prospectively admitting > a graduating podling as a subproject is of great weight with regard to > whether the aggregate community situation would meet volume + diversity > requirements

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Volkert
Can a few PMC members please check this out to see if I resolved all the issues? Thanks, -T On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Todd Volkert wrote: > Incubator PMC members: > > I've addressed the concerns brought up in the first vote and have > re-rolled the distribution archives with the fixes.  S

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread sebb
What's the SVN tag for the release? It's useful to be able to compare the source archive with SVN to check if there are any missing or extraneous files. It's also useful to compare the tar and zip versions of the archives - it's not unknown for these to be different (ignoring differences in sourc

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Greg Brown
>One minor problem I noticed: the LICENSE file contains some odd >characters towards the end which don't display well. Looks like it is encoded in UTF-8 for some reason (the others appear to use standard ASCII). We can easily change that, if necessary. -

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Volkert
> What's the SVN tag for the release? > > It's useful to be able to compare the source archive with SVN to check > if there are any missing or extraneous files. http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/pivot/branches/1.1/ I plan to copy this to tags once the release gets approved (since until th

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread sebb
On 16/04/2009, Todd Volkert wrote: > > What's the SVN tag for the release? > > > > It's useful to be able to compare the source archive with SVN to check > > if there are any missing or extraneous files. > > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/pivot/branches/1.1/ > > I plan to copy thi

Re: Commons issues WAS RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator

2009-04-16 Thread Matt Benson
--- On Thu, 4/16/09, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > From: Niclas Hedhman > Subject: Re: Commons issues WAS RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 4:47 AM > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:07 AM, > Matt Benson > wrote: > > > * IPMC informal

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread sebb
On 16/04/2009, sebb wrote: > On 16/04/2009, Todd Volkert wrote: > > > > What's the SVN tag for the release? > > > > > > It's useful to be able to compare the source archive with SVN to check > > > if there are any missing or extraneous files. > > > > > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/i

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Volkert
> The SVN branch contains lots of .settings directories which are > Eclipse-specific; these aren't normally added to SVN as they tend to > vary between Eclipse installations. I think they should be deleted > from SVN. The .project and .classpath files may also vary, but are > less of a problem. We

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread sebb
On 16/04/2009, Todd Volkert wrote: > > The SVN branch contains lots of .settings directories which are > > Eclipse-specific; these aren't normally added to SVN as they tend to > > vary between Eclipse installations. I think they should be deleted > > from SVN. The .project and .classpath files

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Volkert
> As far as I know, putting a file in a publicly accessible SVN > repository is considered as distribution too. > > Please check this, e.g. on legal-discuss. Yep - I was just subscribing to legal-discuss right now to get an official answer :) --

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread sebb
On 14/04/2009, Todd Volkert wrote: > Incubator PMC members: > > I've addressed the concerns brought up in the first vote and have > re-rolled the distribution archives with the fixes. Specifically, > here's what changed since the last vote: > > * Changed the JDK 1.5 system requirement in the

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Greg Brown
>I've just tried a build on Win/XP, Java 1.6.0. > >This reports quite a few compilation warnings, for example: > >[javac] wtk\src\pivot\wtk\content\TreeViewFileRenderer.java:34: >warning: sun.awt.shell.ShellFolder > is Sun proprietary API and may be removed in a future release ... >Does Pivot o

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Volkert
> I've just tried a build on Win/XP, Java 1.6.0. > > This reports quite a few compilation warnings, for example: > >    [javac] wtk\src\pivot\wtk\content\TreeViewFileRenderer.java:34: > warning: sun.awt.shell.ShellFolder >  is Sun proprietary API and may be removed in a future release >    [javac]

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Volkert
> As far as I know, putting a file in a publicly accessible SVN > repository is considered as distribution too. > > Please check this, e.g. on legal-discuss. FYI, I have a question pending to legal-discuss - I'll post the answer here when I hear back. -

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Volkert
Actually, it occurs to me that since the distribution archives don't have the offending code, we should be able to release 1.1 as packaged (pending the vote), and if legal-discuss says that we need to remove that stuff from SVN, that can be done after the fact. -T On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:27 AM

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Olio 0.1

2009-04-16 Thread Shanti Subramanyam - PAE
On 04/15/09 18:15, sebb wrote: On 16/04/2009, Shanti Subramanyam wrote: Thank you very much for your very prompt review. Answers to your questions below. Shanti sebb wrote: The OlioDriver.jar file contains a smaller OlioDriver.jar file. This is very confusing; one of the jars should be r

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread ant elder
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Todd Volkert wrote: > Actually, it occurs to me that since the distribution archives don't > have the offending code, we should be able to release 1.1 as packaged > (pending the vote), and if legal-discuss says that we need to remove > that stuff from SVN, that ca

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread sebb
On 16/04/2009, ant elder wrote: > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Todd Volkert wrote: > > > Actually, it occurs to me that since the distribution archives don't > > have the offending code, we should be able to release 1.1 as packaged > > (pending the vote), and if legal-discuss says that we

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Greg Brown
>There are rules as to what 3rd party dependencies are allowed. > >For example, LGPL dependencies cannot be included in distributions; >furthermore, any such dependencies must be optional. That is not >something that can be fixed later. We don't have any LGPL libraries in the distribution - only i

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Volkert
> We don't have any LGPL libraries in the distribution - only in SVN, for some > demos that aren't actually included in the distribution artifacts. Or dependencies of any kind, for that mater. The actual *release* is compliant with ASF's policies. If our SVN repository is not, that will be fixe

RE: Commons issues WAS RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator

2009-04-16 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Matt Benson wrote: > I'll apologize in advance because I will probably sound like a total dick in this email being > that I'm irritated for unrelated reasons at the moment. LOL Sorry to hear it, but I must have missed the part where you were so acting. > let it now be known that Commons will not

RE: Commons issues WAS RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator

2009-04-16 Thread Matt Benson
--- On Thu, 4/16/09, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > From: Noel J. Bergman > Subject: RE: Commons issues WAS RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 11:30 AM > Matt Benson wrote: > > > I'll apologize in advance because I will probably >

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Volkert
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200904.mbox/browser Summary: (a) Some consider SVN to be part of your distribution, and some don't, so there's no true resolution there (b) Per http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html#transition-incubator, this weighs on us less because we

RE: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Noel J. Bergman
sebb wrote: > The SVN branch contains lots of .settings directories which are > Eclipse-specific; these aren't normally added to SVN as they tend to > vary between Eclipse installations. I think they should be deleted > from SVN. The .project and .classpath files may also vary, but are > less of a

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Volkert
Ok, per the recommendations on the legal-discuss thread and here (and just to make sure we're fully in keeping with the spirit of ASF policies), I've removed the offending files from the tag (and copied the branch to the tag), which can be found at: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/pivot/

RE: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> Ok, per the recommendations on the legal-discuss thread and here (and > just to make sure we're fully in keeping with the spirit of ASF > policies), I've removed the offending files from the tag Just ones that actually are license incompatible? > (and copied the branch to the tag) Yes, thank y

RE: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Greg Brown
>> p.s. on the trunk, we've just migrated the demos sub-project and the >> JFreeChart provider off of the ASF repository for good > >Were they license incompatible? I'd really like to have demos at the ASF, >not just the core code. But they should be demos that the project is >willing to maintain

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread sebb
On 16/04/2009, Todd Volkert wrote: > Ok, per the recommendations on the legal-discuss thread and here (and > just to make sure we're fully in keeping with the spirit of ASF > policies), I've removed the offending files from the tag (and copied s/tag/branch/ ? > the branch to the tag), which c

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Volkert
> AFAICS the archives look OK, so no objections from me. Not to be a pain, but is that a +1? :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread sebb
On 17/04/2009, Todd Volkert wrote: > > AFAICS the archives look OK, so no objections from me. > > > Not to be a pain, but is that a +1? :) > +1 > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For addi

Question about the incubator and non-ASL code

2009-04-16 Thread Rich Bowen
If, hypothetically, a project was considering entering the incubator, and if that project had an -extras repository for community-developed plugins to the project, and if some of those plugins were under non- ASL licenses, what would be the policy? Could there be an -extras repository contai

Re: Question about the incubator and non-ASL code

2009-04-16 Thread Upayavira
On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 20:13 -0400, Rich Bowen wrote: > If, hypothetically, a project was considering entering the incubator, > and if that project had an -extras repository for community-developed > plugins to the project, and if some of those plugins were under non- > ASL licenses, what would

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:07 PM, sebb wrote: > As far as I know, putting a file in a publicly accessible SVN > repository is considered as distribution too. No, I am very positive that this is not the case. Legal dilligence is done on the release artifacts separately from SVN issues. Unlike rel

RE: Question about the incubator and non-ASL code

2009-04-16 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Rich Bowen wrote: > If, hypothetically, a project was considering entering the incubator, > and if that project had an -extras repository for community-developed > plugins to the project, and if some of those plugins were under non- > ASL licenses, what would be the policy? Are they compatible or