Re: [discuss] graduation: what is the 'hand over'?

2007-05-05 Thread Leo Simons
On May 3, 2007, at 5:56 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: I am in the process of going through the graduation guide (graduation.xml in the guides directory of the incubator website), wow, that's pretty detailed. It's also not linked from the main menu. and I came across a TODO: section and didn't kn

[suggestion] making documentation management more lightweight

2007-05-05 Thread Leo Simons
Jo! The whole jira-patch-commit workflow for the documentation seems annoying. At least it annoys me -- in particular the patches don't show up in my email so I have to visit jira which I try and avoid as much as possible :-). Suggestions: 1) create http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/in

Re: [suggestion] making documentation management more lightweight

2007-05-05 Thread Michael Wechner
Leo Simons wrote: Jo! The whole jira-patch-commit workflow for the documentation seems annoying. At least it annoys me -- in particular the patches don't show up in my email so I have to visit jira which I try and avoid as much as possible :-). Suggestions: 1) create http://svn.apa

Re: [suggestion] making documentation management more lightweight

2007-05-05 Thread Leo Simons
On May 5, 2007, at 7:55 PM, Michael Wechner wrote: what about a CMS with a workflow, which would sit on top SVN accessing both branches (staging resp. draft and live) and hence would allow devs still accessing it through other SVN clients and also allow updating the live site as static SVN u

Re: [suggestion] making documentation management more lightweight

2007-05-05 Thread Michael Wechner
Leo Simons wrote: On May 5, 2007, at 7:55 PM, Michael Wechner wrote: what about a CMS with a workflow, which would sit on top SVN accessing both branches (staging resp. draft and live) and hence would allow devs still accessing it through other SVN clients and also allow updating the live

Re: counting downloads

2007-05-05 Thread Marshall Schor
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Garrett Rooney wrote: The mirror system makes this an essentially unsolvable problem. And in addition to all of your other valid points, there is the problem of having a a farm of caching proxies on the ISP side of the net, leading to the seemingly odd case that

Re: counting downloads

2007-05-05 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 5/5/07, Marshall Schor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: One confusion I have: If we count "clicks" on the download link, it seems that even if that link led to a "mirror" page, it would count pretty accurately (except of course if a person clicked to download, and then didn't bother going through w

Re: counting downloads

2007-05-05 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Unless they don't download it via your link, or they download more than once (getting copies on multiple machines?), or any number of other things that can throw your numbers off. It's a losing battle for statistics that IMO aren't very useful anyway. All download counts are good for is ego stro