Davanum Srinivas wrote:
Am still waiting for someone to point
out to an actual problem ("factually incorrect press releases"). Last
time i checked, people pay to put out press releases to make them look
good. ("seek to spin Synapse into something that makes other companies
look good.").
May be j
On 02 Sep 2005, at 06:53, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
Why is it just us catching the flak?
Because we feel you're one of us, rather than one of "them". Look at it
as a token of ultimate appreciation.
--
Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/
Outerthought
On 9/2/05, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Friday 02 September 2005 10:28, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> > Several people on WS-PMC offered to help infra. They were turned down
> > as they are not members.
>
> This has been my impression as well.
>
> infra@ is begging for help, but see
Henri Yandell wrote:
> Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> > Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> > > Several people on WS-PMC offered to help infra. They were turned down
> > > as they are not members.
> >
> > This has been my impression as well.
> >
> > infra@ is begging for help, but seems to have problem with;
> >
On 02-09-2005 04:28, "Davanum Srinivas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Several people on WS-PMC offered to help infra. They were turned down
> as they are not members.
NACK. There are lots of ways to help. I remember writing several e-mails
detailing how. There are several non-members actively helpi
On 02-09-2005 08:27, "Sanjiva Weerawarana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-09-02 at 14:19 +0800, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
>> Now, I have suggested before, and still do, that infra starts/becomes a
>> standard ASF project, source code, site, jira, wiki, dev mailing list and all
>> the normal
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
--On September 1, 2005 8:41:11 PM +1000 Berin Lautenbach
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There are far more checks already. To get a project approved you need a
full resolution signed by the board. A better analogy would be voting
on a
new PMC member. No PMC requires *a
On 02-09-2005 10:55, "Henri Yandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Leo's been behind a lot of design plans for that, and there's a CA
> tool looming on the horizon. An improvement here would be for someone
> (Leo?) to give us a better overall plan of what's requested and where
> it fits.
(...)
> But
Roy T. Fielding wrote:
I am generally opposed to any of the suggestions that we add
more constraints to incubation (aside from a general constraint
of no new projects, which I can understand for infrastructure
reasons alone). What we need is more documentation, not more rules.
+1
--
On Friday 02 September 2005 17:42, Leo Simons wrote:
> By all means, please help make it happen! Step 1 is subscribing to
> infrastructure _at_ apache _dot_ org, if you haven't already.
After almost 2 years of trying to find angles of helping out, I finally gave
up and unsubscribed a few weeks ba
Leo,
Specifically 2 people asked read persmissions on the files. they were
told that's not possible. Am NOT talking about root privs.
-- dims
On 9/2/05, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 02-09-2005 04:28, "Davanum Srinivas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Several people on WS-PMC offered
Hehe, thanks :)
-- dims
On 9/2/05, Steven Noels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 02 Sep 2005, at 06:53, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
>
> > Why is it just us catching the flak?
>
> Because we feel you're one of us, rather than one of "them". Look at it
> as a token of ultimate appreciation.
>
>
> --
On 02.09.2005, at 13:03, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
On Friday 02 September 2005 17:42, Leo Simons wrote:
By all means, please help make it happen! Step 1 is subscribing to
infrastructure _at_ apache _dot_ org, if you haven't already.
After almost 2 years of trying to find angles of helping out,
On 02.09.2005, at 14:07, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
Leo,
Specifically 2 people asked read persmissions on the files. they were
told that's not possible. Am NOT talking about root privs.
Which files? Why? Who?
Cheers,
Erik
-- dims
On 9/2/05, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 02-09-20
On Sep 2, 2005, at 4:22 AM, Steven Noels wrote:
On 02 Sep 2005, at 06:53, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
Why is it just us catching the flak?
Because we feel you're one of us, rather than one of "them". Look
at it as a token of ultimate appreciation.
Here here! :)
IMO, this is the type of
Sal and Ian from HP expressed interest on [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=webservices-general&m=111901932102075&w=2
I gave them the pointers:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=webservices-general&m=111901966108282&w=2
They started a thread in infra@ mailing list:
<[EMAIL PROTECTE
On 02.09.2005, at 14:45, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
Sal and Ian from HP expressed interest on [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=webservices-
general&m=111901932102075&w=2
Quoting: "What are the steps for me to get set up w/ admin
rights for SVN? Once I get set up, I'll read up o
I understand compeltely. that's how i got (earned?) my wings. Let's
make this explicit about what we are looking for from a newbie :)
+1 to opening up repo.
thanks,
dims
On 9/2/05, Erik Abele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 02.09.2005, at 14:45, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
>
> > Sal and Ian from HP
Well,
after following this thread (even though not actively taking part) I'd
say the stereotype of large and close Italian families fits even
better.
Which is just fine with me, being born just 30km from the Italian border ;)
regards,
Martin
P.S.: Can you cook some spaghetti, Mamma mia ;) ?
O
On Friday 02 September 2005 20:23, Erik Abele wrote:
I honestly don't feel like "fueling" this thread, so please don't hesitate to
say I am outright stupid and don't know what I am talking about, and I'll
shut up as a good citizen... My intention is not to "whine".
> Why isn't that working for
--On September 1, 2005 10:50:53 PM -0400 Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Figuring out how the sandbox(es) and the incubator work together is
increasingly flagging on my attention list. Sam's list of rules is the
most concrete thing I've seen so far:
* If the SVN tree was always on ASF
On 02.09.2005, at 17:25, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
On Friday 02 September 2005 20:23, Erik Abele wrote:
I honestly don't feel like "fueling" this thread, so please don't
hesitate to
say I am outright stupid and don't know what I am talking about,
and I'll
shut up as a good citizen... My intent
--On September 2, 2005 7:24:54 PM +0200 Erik Abele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Yes, infra could say 'no' more often or could simply shut down the
services they don't want to administer. To be honest, I'd be fine with
this (and its consequences (people/projects leaving, flamewars,
what-have-you)
On Sep 1, 2005, at 9:53 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
Am hurt by the words "You turned this into a Web Services marketing
event" (Though i made it really clear multiple times that there was
only on press release that i was part of and that was vetted by the
prc@) But i will live and learn. Am stil
Niclas,
On 02-09-2005 17:25, "Niclas Hedhman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I honestly don't feel like "fueling" this thread, so please don't hesitate to
> say I am outright stupid and don't know what I am talking about, and I'll
> shut up as a good citizen... My intention is not to "whine".
In th
Roy,
Understood. Please see the reply from Sanjiva about Foo vs "Apache
Foo" (message id is <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
thanks,
dims
On 9/2/05, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sep 1, 2005, at 9:53 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
>
> > Am hurt by the words "You turned this into a Web Servic
--On September 2, 2005 11:54:50 AM -0700 "Roy T. Fielding"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Actually, I think Justin was fed up with the stdcxx folks. The
Gartner crap (which is always crap) just happened to come along
at the wrong time.
For the record (since this is a public list), the stdcxx iss
In an effort is to make it easier for people to download and experiment
with the stdcxx library and become interested in contributing to the
development of the podling, the stdcxx community voted on and approved
a proposal to make a stable snapshot of the stdcxx sources available
for download. Fol
I've talked with the developers of the jabberd2 server [1] about the
possibility of initiating their Jabber/XMPP server into the ways of
Apache. They're open to and interested in incubation and would like to
know if Apache folks might be interested, too. If so, I'll work with
them to develop a
+1 from me ..
Sanjiva.
On Fri, 2005-09-02 at 15:03 -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> I've talked with the developers of the jabberd2 server [1] about the
> possibility of initiating their Jabber/XMPP server into the ways of
> Apache. They're open to and interested in incubation and would like t
I forgot to ask .. are there any companies involved or is this a project
of a collection of developers?
Sanjiva.
On Fri, 2005-09-02 at 15:03 -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> I've talked with the developers of the jabberd2 server [1] about the
> possibility of initiating their Jabber/XMPP server
--On September 2, 2005 3:03:08 PM -0600 Peter Saint-Andre
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I've talked with the developers of the jabberd2 server [1] about the
possibility of initiating their Jabber/XMPP server into the ways of
Apache. They're open to and interested in incubation and would like to
kn
Martin Sebor wrote:
Pursuant to the Releases section of the Incubation Policy, we would now
like to request the permission of the Incubator PMC to make the snapshot
available via a link from the stdcxx Download page:
http://incubator.apache.org/stdcxx/download.html
+1 - the next threshold/metr
--On September 2, 2005 4:13:31 PM -0500 "William A. Rowe, Jr."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Martin Sebor wrote:
Pursuant to the Releases section of the Incubation Policy, we would now
like to request the permission of the Incubator PMC to make the snapshot
available via a link from the stdcxx D
Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
I forgot to ask .. are there any companies involved or is this a project
of a collection of developers?
No companies (yet), just freelance open-source developers.
Peter
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Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
Can you please clarify how you envision this cooperating with the Jabber
Software Foundation? I'm not 100% clear on the JSF's relationship to
Jabber - I realize who you are, so I doubt that it is going to be a
problem. We've had some problems lately on this front wit
--On September 2, 2005 3:44:46 PM -0600 Peter Saint-Andre
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
recently Google have written implementations of the protocols). So the
JSF is kind of like an open W3C or mini IETF and its work would not
overlap in any way with the ASF as far as I can see.
Excellent. ;-)
Incubator PMC must ratify any votes by the incubated projects, IIUC.
Bill
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
--On September 2, 2005 4:13:31 PM -0500 "William A. Rowe, Jr."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Martin Sebor wrote:
Pursuant to the Releases section of the Incubation Policy, we would now
like to
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
I'm not really clear what the approval process is here on the part of
the full Incubator PMC. Bill, do you know? Or, is it hidden on the
website somewhere? ;-) -- justin
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Releases%0D
Cheers,
Be
--On September 3, 2005 10:30:49 AM +1000 Berin Lautenbach
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Releases%0D
I saw that, but it's not very helpful as it says: "Such approval SHALL be
given only after the Incubator PMC has followed the process
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
--On September 3, 2005 10:30:49 AM +1000 Berin Lautenbach
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Releases%0D
I saw that, but it's not very helpful as it says: "Such approval SHALL
be given only after the Incubator
On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 11:01:29AM -0700, Cliff Schmidt wrote:
> I'd like to suggest a few changes to the process of approving new
> project proposals.
I think I like your goals and some of your plans, but question whether
its smart to paint this as "changes to process". Just see how far you
get w
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 02:16:58PM -0700, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> I'm not really clear what the approval process is here on the part of the
> full Incubator PMC. Bill, do you know? Or, is it hidden on the website
> somewhere? ;-) -- justin
We vote. You know, 3 +1s, stuff, like httpd has
On Saturday 03 September 2005 02:56, Leo Simons wrote:
> What *is* your intention? Are you helping us out here? How?
In 2003, I was signing up for the infra@ list, on the basis of "I think I
should really try to help out there, since it is what makes ASF tick."
The message was essentially, hang a
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