Hi,
On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 1:42 PM Pierre Smits wrote:
> ...Re: at least 5 active PPMC Members
> As we learned from the Trafodion graduation, it was (is?) also required
> that (some of) the ASF Members mentoring the project were going to be part
> of the PMC after graduation...
Yes, this is not
I agree with Bertrand on that a - projected - viability of having a
fruitful lifespan under the umbrella of the ASF is key. And that IMO is
much driven by popularity of the code as it must fill a certain level of
need to adopt, and the desire of those participating in the - incubating -
project to
Hi,
On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 11:23 PM Gunnar Tapper wrote:
> ...Stated in a different way: if there's little interest in a project's
> technology but it does everything it can to attract contributors, then is
> popularity a measure of whether a project is ready for graduation?...
I think it's fine
Hi,
> IMO While it may not always get a realistic answer (wishful thinking could
> apply as you say), asking the question should make the podling think about
> what is involved and start to make a plan on how to graduate. It will also
> pick up any policing or have unrealistic expectation about
Hi,
> I believe this kind of questioning will lead nowhere. Before a proposal for
> incubation is being accepted any statement made regarding this will be like
> wishful thinking or (explicitly) vague,
IMO While it may not always get a realistic answer (wishful thinking could
apply as you say),
Hi,
What's the main cause of a lengthy incubation period? Possibilities:
1. Not understanding the Apache processes? This is teachable in most
cases. Shouldn't take two years in most cases, especially if mentors guide
the project through the release process.
2. Contributors joining th
I believe this kind of questioning will lead nowhere. Before a proposal for
incubation is being accepted any statement made regarding this will be like
wishful thinking or (explicitly) vague, and after acceptance the reports
will be more indicative about progress (and therefore making a given
init
Hi -
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> On Aug 26, 2018, at 9:08 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 8:22 PM Ted Dunning wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 5:33 PM Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi -
>>>
>>> ...
Possibly retirement?
ODF toolkit (7 years in the incubator!)
>>>
>
I’d be a +1.
-Taylor
> On Aug 31, 2018, at 6:35 PM, Ted Dunning wrote:
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 3:30 PM Justin Mclean
> wrote:
>
>> ...
>>> FWIW, for the DLab proposal [1], we added a voluntary incubation period
>> max of 2 years, essentially saying we didn’t want to become a resource
>> d
.
Thanks,
Chris
From: Justin Mclean
Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org"
Date: Friday, August 31, 2018 at 3:39 PM
To: "general@incubator.apache.org"
Subject: Re: Poddlings length of time in the incubator
Hi,
Thanks Lewis for that. Lets see if we can get t
Hi,
Thanks Lewis for that. Lets see if we can get these two projects to graduate.
If they need help with that (i.e. mentors are missing) please ask for help here.
Thanks,
Justin
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On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 3:30 PM Justin Mclean
wrote:
> ...
> > FWIW, for the DLab proposal [1], we added a voluntary incubation period
> max of 2 years, essentially saying we didn’t want to become a resource
> drain. I haven’t checked to see if any other projects have done this.
>
> Nice idea. I
Hi,
> FWIW, for the DLab proposal [1], we added a voluntary incubation period max
> of 2 years, essentially saying we didn’t want to become a resource drain. I
> haven’t checked to see if any other projects have done this.
Nice idea. I think we shovel add to the template “How long do you think
Hi,
> Basically, I'm +1 on every single point that Julian makes, but having
> said this I'm unsure as to where can we go from here.
IMO Ask the podlings in questing if they need help and how long they intends to
stay in incubation / what are the issues stopping them from graduating. It may
be t
On 26/08/18 00:43, Justin Mclean wrote:
Hi,
Below is a list of podlings that have been in the incubator for more than 2
years. What can be done to encourage these projects along? Do they have missing
mentors or need some other assistance?
While not all podlings graduate in 2 years and may
> On Aug 28, 2018, at 9:01 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 1:40 PM, Julian Hyde wrote:
>> Regarding Quickstep. I am a mentor. (One mentor resigned earlier this
>> year, but the other mentor, Roman, is sufficiently engaged.)
>>
>> I am concerned that Quickstep is not g
On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 10:22 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 8:01 PM Roman Shaposhnik
> wrote:
>>...
>
>> In the past we typically shied away from setting deadlines for certain
>> milestones in community development within podlings. This, in my view,
>> somewhat encouraged this p
Hi Justin,
Response inline
On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 8:29 PM
wrote:
> From: Justin Mclean
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 09:43:36 +1000
> Subject: Poddlings length of time in the incubator
> Hi,
>
> Below is a list of podlings that have been in the incuba
On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 8:01 PM Roman Shaposhnik
wrote:
>...
> In the past we typically shied away from setting deadlines for certain
> milestones in community development within podlings. This, in my view,
> somewhat encouraged this phenomenon of an "eternal podling" (active
> enough not to be i
On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 1:40 PM, Julian Hyde wrote:
> Regarding Quickstep. I am a mentor. (One mentor resigned earlier this
> year, but the other mentor, Roman, is sufficiently engaged.)
>
> I am concerned that Quickstep is not going to graduate. They are
> functioning well as an academic project,
On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 8:22 PM Ted Dunning wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 5:33 PM Dave Fisher wrote:
>
> > Hi -
> >
> > ...
> > > Possibly retirement?
> > > ODF toolkit (7 years in the incubator!)
> >
> > I’ve discussed this some on the ODF toolkit dev list. Development was
> > recently moved
On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 5:33 PM Dave Fisher wrote:
> Hi -
>
> ...
> > Possibly retirement?
> > ODF toolkit (7 years in the incubator!)
>
> I’ve discussed this some on the ODF toolkit dev list. Development was
> recently moved to Git. The Incubator needs to decide if we will turnover
> the domains
Regarding Quickstep. I am a mentor. (One mentor resigned earlier this
year, but the other mentor, Roman, is sufficiently engaged.)
I am concerned that Quickstep is not going to graduate. They are
functioning well as an academic project, as evidenced by papers at top
conferences[1], but all of thei
On 26/08/18 02:30, Justin Mclean wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> I’ve discussed this some on the ODF toolkit dev list. Development was
>> recently moved to Git. The Incubator needs to decide if we will turnover the
>> domains that were donated in 2011 by IBM(?) to the only consistent
>> developer. If that is
Hi,
> I’ve discussed this some on the ODF toolkit dev list. Development was
> recently moved to Git. The Incubator needs to decide if we will turnover the
> domains that were donated in 2011 by IBM(?) to the only consistent developer.
> If that is true then we can quickly let them retire, but s
Hi -
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 25, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Justin Mclean wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Below is a list of podlings that have been in the incubator for more than 2
> years. What can be done to encourage these projects along? Do they have
> missing mentors or need some other assistance?
>
>
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