Re: Multiple entities of software grant agreement

2022-04-25 Thread hulk
Thanks Matt. For ICLAs, some guys fill the postal address with the company address instead of the personal address, would check with them. On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 1:09 AM Matt Sicker wrote: > And we've filed the SGA. The ICLAs are still churning as each > submitter learns what data is required o

Re: Multiple entities of software grant agreement

2022-04-25 Thread Matt Sicker
And we've filed the SGA. The ICLAs are still churning as each submitter learns what data is required on the form, though. ;) On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 7:49 AM hulk wrote: > > Many thanks for John's help. I think we can handle it with this input, > thanks a lot. > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 8:06 PM J

Re: Multiple entities of software grant agreement

2022-04-25 Thread hulk
Many thanks for John's help. I think we can handle it with this input, thanks a lot. On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 8:06 PM John D. Ament wrote: > On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 5:08 AM Sheng Wu > wrote: > > > SGA is not required if the project is on a personal repository, this > > > > > SGAs can apply for i

Re: Multiple entities of software grant agreement

2022-04-25 Thread John D. Ament
On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 5:08 AM Sheng Wu wrote: > SGA is not required if the project is on a personal repository, this > SGAs can apply for individuals and corporations [1]. Doesn't matter where it's sourced from. We have received a number of SGAs in the past that just represent a single indi

Re: Multiple entities of software grant agreement

2022-04-25 Thread Sheng Wu
SGA is not required if the project is on a personal repository, this individual's employer(if have) is recommended to submit CCLA(but needs to evaluate by the owner about his contract) But this isn't the Kvrocks case. Sheng Wu 吴晟 Twitter, wusheng1108 tison 于2022年4月25日周一 16:15写道: > > Thanks for y

Re: Multiple entities of software grant agreement

2022-04-25 Thread tison
Thanks for your inputs. Try to summarize the discussion: * Apache requires a SGA from the *current* copyright holder of the software to grant permission for ASF. * If the current copyright holder is Meitu, then they should sign a grant with Exhibit A barely "Kvrocks". However, if the current cop

Re: Multiple entities of software grant agreement

2022-04-25 Thread hulk
Thanks Sheng Wu, > Do you mean there is no single Meitu employee(s) was working/contributed to that project ever since? There are still some guys contributing to Kvrocks, but most contributions were from the community, I will discuss with the Metiu side about how to handle it. On Mon, Apr 25, 2

Re: Multiple entities of software grant agreement

2022-04-25 Thread Sheng Wu
> but I think it's right that meitu should claim clearly about the copyright date since the Do you mean there is no single Meitu employee(s) was working/contributed to that project ever since? Because the org is virtual on GitHub, and meitu can't sign CCLA or SGA to that virtual group back then, I

Re: Multiple entities of software grant agreement

2022-04-25 Thread hulk
Thanks for junping reply. Yes, we also agree that should grant the whole source code repository for ASF, but I think it's right that meitu should claim clearly about the copyright date since the the repository was moved to another organization after then. So our question is should we need to sig

Re: Multiple entities of software grant agreement

2022-04-24 Thread 俊平堵
I think SGA here should be the same as other project. As Craig mentioned above, it is code’s copyright owner ( a legal entity or natural human) to grant permission for ASF. If only for code during certain period, that means some code is not get permitted for Apache which is very weird. :( hulk 于20

Re: Multiple entities of software grant agreement

2022-04-24 Thread hulk
Thanks all, >From the meitu side, they think should claim the date clearly instead of implicitly, so I'm not sure whether is ok to add this clarification on SGA or not? If not, are there other agreements that should be signed for podling IP Clearance? On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 11:13 AM Sheng Wu w

Re: Multiple entities of software grant agreement

2022-04-24 Thread Sheng Wu
Please check the SGA template of ASF, like Craig mentioned, usually, there is no date/timestamp included. The foundation just needs legal approval that the company granted to move codes to the foundation, others(like individuals) should submit ICLA(s) Sheng Wu 吴晟 Twitter, wusheng1108 hulk 于2022年

Re: Multiple entities of software grant agreement

2022-04-24 Thread Craig Russell
Hi, The grant covers the code that is owned by the grantor. No date is needed. Craig > On Apr 24, 2022, at 7:18 PM, hulk wrote: > >> I think the key is how they make this conclusion. Was the project >> moving to a 3rd party repository, and changing the owner from a >> license perspective? >

Re: Multiple entities of software grant agreement

2022-04-24 Thread hulk
> I think the key is how they make this conclusion. Was the project > moving to a 3rd party repository, and changing the owner from a > license perspective? Kvrocks has transferred from the meitu to the KvrocksLabs organization and claimed the copyright belongs to the Kvrocks community. > Is ther

Re: Multiple entities of software grant agreement

2022-04-24 Thread Sheng Wu
> While the IPMCs and PPMCs preparing the SGA I think IPMC don't prepare SGA, SGA(s) are from original owners. > Its lawyer said that code contributions from then on belong to the Kvrocks community. I think the key is how they make this conclusion. Was the project moving to a 3rd party repositor