Re: Idea of JCMS

2004-11-01 Thread LOMBART Christophe
Hi Oliver, Thanks for your interest in JCMS. We (the JCMS team) plan to start this kind of discussion on Slide & JackRabbit mailing lists but Incubator is certainly the right place to do that. The main JCMS goals are : 1.Group together different kind of content servers in order to aggrate th

Re: Idea of JCMS

2004-11-01 Thread David Nuescheler
hi oli, thanks for your comments. i really appreciate your interest. > first of all let me say that I really appreciate your help! Second, > let me say that I have no reservations concerning Jackrabbit and > certainly do not see it as a threat to Slide or the other way round > (which others seeme

Re: Idea of JCMS

2004-11-01 Thread Oliver Zeigermann
Hi David, first of all let me say that I really appreciate your help! Second, let me say that I have no reservations concerning Jackrabbit and certainly do not see it as a threat to Slide or the other way round (which others seemed to feel in other posts), but rather want to explore where each pro

Re: Idea of JCMS

2004-11-01 Thread David Nuescheler
hi oliver, > (1) Where can I get the (tentative) JCR API? you can download the snapshot that was out for public review in may-2004 ( http://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/review/jsr170/index.html ) which is a quite a bit outdated now. or you can get the binaries that are used by maven to buil

Re: Idea of JCMS

2004-11-01 Thread Oliver Zeigermann
Two (maybe dumb) questions (1) Where can I get the (tentative) JCR API? (2) When *presumably* will Jackrabbit be mature enought to be an alternative to the current Slide backend? Oliver On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 17:41:49 -0800, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is no problem. There i

Re: Idea of JCMS

2004-10-31 Thread Roy T . Fielding
There is no problem. There is no reason at all for any one project to "own" the CMS space at Apache. It makes sense for Slide to replace its back-end with Jackrabbit for one and only one reason: such an architecture will enable substitutability of its back-end and simplify Slide's implementation.

Re: Idea of JCMS

2004-10-31 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
"Rolf Kulemann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > But JCMS also claims to support/use standards like JCR. AFAICS Slide > does not support JCR. I do not know why, but I saw some posting giving > me the feeling it was due to lack of collaboration between the former > jcrri team and the Slide team. I

Re: Idea of JCMS

2004-10-31 Thread Rolf Kulemann
On Sun, 2004-10-31 at 14:31, Oliver Zeigermann wrote: > > Mhh, a standard query API? WebDAV only specifies a query envelope, but > > not the query language. Or do you mean the Slide API exposes a standard > > query API? Which standard does it use? > > There is more than an envelope, there also is

Re: Idea of JCMS

2004-10-31 Thread Oliver Zeigermann
> Mhh, a standard query API? WebDAV only specifies a query envelope, but > not the query language. Or do you mean the Slide API exposes a standard > query API? Which standard does it use? There is more than an envelope, there also is the basic search: http://www.greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-re

Re: Idea of JCMS

2004-10-31 Thread Rolf Kulemann
On Sun, 2004-10-31 at 13:14, Oliver Zeigermann wrote: > > Ok, sorry, I missed the WebDAV thingy. You are right. BUT WebDAV is very > > limited; see transactions and a standard query API. However, this is > > another discussion. > > > > This is exactly the reason why I won't use Slide for Lenya; I

Re: Idea of JCMS

2004-10-31 Thread Rolf Kulemann
On Sun, 2004-10-31 at 13:14, Oliver Zeigermann wrote: > > Ok, sorry, I missed the WebDAV thingy. You are right. BUT WebDAV is very > > limited; see transactions and a standard query API. However, this is > > another discussion. > > > > This is exactly the reason why I won't use Slide for Lenya; I

Re: Idea of JCMS

2004-10-31 Thread Rolf Kulemann
On Sun, 2004-10-31 at 13:14, Oliver Zeigermann wrote: ... > > To be honest again, my personal wish is that Slide and Rabbit folks > > would work more closely together. I feel the potential of > > cross-pollination is great. > > By the way, I was not able to follow the progress of the Rabbit > thi

Re: Idea of JCMS

2004-10-31 Thread Oliver Zeigermann
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 13:00:23 +0100, Rolf Kulemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2004-10-31 at 12:46, Oliver Zeigermann wrote: > > Hi Rolf, > > > > thanks for this honest statement. I was just wondering a little bit: > > Slide's main focus is on providing a WebDAV compliant server for all > >

Re: Idea of JCMS

2004-10-31 Thread Oliver Zeigermann
> Ok, sorry, I missed the WebDAV thingy. You are right. BUT WebDAV is very > limited; see transactions and a standard query API. However, this is > another discussion. > > This is exactly the reason why I won't use Slide for Lenya; I can not > use WebDAV because of its limitations and I do not wan

Re: Idea of JCMS

2004-10-31 Thread Rolf Kulemann
On Sun, 2004-10-31 at 12:46, Oliver Zeigermann wrote: > Hi Rolf, > > thanks for this honest statement. I was just wondering a little bit: > Slide's main focus is on providing a WebDAV compliant server for all > kinds of repositories. I guess it does this job pretty well. It > becomes easier and ea

Re: Idea of JCMS

2004-10-31 Thread Rolf Kulemann
On Sun, 2004-10-31 at 12:46, Oliver Zeigermann wrote: > Hi Rolf, > > thanks for this honest statement. I was just wondering a little bit: > Slide's main focus is on providing a WebDAV compliant server for all > kinds of repositories. I guess it does this job pretty well. It > becomes easier and ea

Re: Idea of JCMS

2004-10-31 Thread Oliver Zeigermann
Hi Rolf, thanks for this honest statement. I was just wondering a little bit: Slide's main focus is on providing a WebDAV compliant server for all kinds of repositories. I guess it does this job pretty well. It becomes easier and easier to plug all kinds of stores into it and the WebDAV compliance

Re: Idea of JCMS

2004-10-31 Thread Rolf Kulemann
On Sun, 2004-10-31 at 00:03, Oliver Zeigermann wrote: > Folks, > > just heard of JCMS proposed to be incubated and it sounds interesting. > Looking at the description and the sources I wonder why not helping > the Slide project to achive the goals stated in the proposal. Goals > are pretty similar