Re: Don't +1 lightly (was: Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve the 3.0-M2 release of ServiceMix)

2006-07-05 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 7/5/06, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I take your point about Yet Another Role. On the other hand it takes 3 binding +1s to do a release, and projects typically have only one mentor. It seems to me that a few people like you Robert take on a large part of the burden of doing deta

Re: Don't +1 lightly (was: Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve the 3.0-M2 release of ServiceMix)

2006-07-05 Thread Paul Fremantle
A couple of points in relation to the discussion. Firstly I'd like to make it clear I do not condone any "blind +1"ing. I don't think anyone on this list does. In fact exactly the opposite. The aim of this discussion was to come up with ways to ensure that projects have people willing to do the h

Re: Don't +1 lightly (was: Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve the 3.0-M2 release of ServiceMix)

2006-07-05 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 7/5/06, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Actually this raises an interesting discussion about the Incubator PMC. There is kind of a tricky role for Incubator PMC members. Because most of us have no knowledge or affiliation with any given one of the tens of incubator projects, we fin

Re: Don't +1 lightly

2006-07-05 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Paul Fremantle wrote: So here is a suggestion. Each incubator project could have nominated two or three PMC members whose job is to pay attention to the project. As opposed to a mentor - who is there to actively help, these PMC members would be there to pay enough attention to have an input on r

Re: Don't +1 lightly (was: Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve the 3.0-M2 release of ServiceMix)

2006-07-05 Thread Paul Fremantle
Actually this raises an interesting discussion about the Incubator PMC. There is kind of a tricky role for Incubator PMC members. Because most of us have no knowledge or affiliation with any given one of the tens of incubator projects, we find it hard to have any say, especially when it comes to

Re: Don't +1 lightly (was: Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve the 3.0-M2 release of ServiceMix)

2006-07-04 Thread ant elder
Shesh...what makes you think it was done lightly? As the rest of my post indicated I'd taken the time to downloaded and try out their release, even pointed out a problem in the readme files I'd found. And I'd looked at things like the notice and license files that have cased problems in other incu