Re: Champion needed for new workflow project proposal

2009-03-02 Thread Matthieu Riou
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Janne Jalkanen wrote: > I don't mind championing you but as mentioned by others, there will be >> several hurdles to overcome. To change the license, you will have to get >> an >> agreement from everybody who ever contributed a patch to the source you >> plan >> to

Re: Champion needed for new workflow project proposal

2009-03-02 Thread Janne Jalkanen
I don't mind championing you but as mentioned by others, there will be several hurdles to overcome. To change the license, you will have to get an agreement from everybody who ever contributed a patch to the source you plan to incubate, even for a minor bug fix. I don't know how painful that

Re: Champion needed for new workflow project proposal

2009-03-02 Thread Matthieu Riou
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:05 AM, sasaboy wrote: > > Hi, > > don't think CLA will be the problem. Althouth a mature project, the core > and > all the main components of the engine are written by the core > developers...the community mostly helped by contributing different > implementations of some

Re: Champion needed for new workflow project proposal

2009-03-02 Thread sasaboy
Hi, don't think CLA will be the problem. Althouth a mature project, the core and all the main components of the engine are written by the core developers...the community mostly helped by contributing different implementations of some other components and by giving ideas for the improvement of the

Re: Champion needed for new workflow project proposal

2009-03-02 Thread Siegfried Goeschl
Hi Sasa, I'm following apache.incubator not very closely but looking at "http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html#template-ip"; you need a CLA for all contributions (and probable patches). And this seems difficult for a mature project where many people contributed stuff under LGPL - but a

Re: Champion needed for new workflow project proposal

2009-03-02 Thread sasaboy
Hi, ObjectWeb allows Apache licensed projects but one of our reasons is also to be recognized as Apache project, which will of course provide us with much more visibility than beeing ObjectWeb project :-) plus to get more developers, ideas, community, etc I didn't provide a link for the prop

Re: Champion needed for new workflow project proposal

2009-03-02 Thread Siegfried Goeschl
Hi Sasa, +) sorry but I could find no link to the proposal - could you repost the link? +) I worked for Together Teamlösungen many moons ago so I'm aware of Enhydra Shark (but no affiliation for the time being) So without knowing the proposal I think it is a successful open source project but mov

Re: Champion needed for new workflow project proposal

2009-03-02 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, > Siegfried Goeschl wrote: >> ...why are moving from ObjectWeb since it is >> well-known and respected community?... On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:56 PM, sasaboy wrote: > ...* Resolve current potential licensing issues that are addressed in the > Apache 2.0 license, but not in the LGPL license...

Re: Champion needed for new workflow project proposal

2009-03-02 Thread sasaboy
Hi, well, we already wrote this in proposal, but here it is: * The legal umbrella. There are no outstanding legal issues with Shark, but the protection that Apache affords is valuable for Shark developers and users. * Resolve current potential licensing issues that are addressed in the Apache 2

Re: Champion needed for new workflow project proposal

2009-03-02 Thread Siegfried Goeschl
Hi Sasa, the very first question is - why are moving from ObjectWeb since it is well-known and respected community? Cheers, Siegfried Goeschl sasaboy wrote: > Hi, > > some weeks ago, I've posted a question on this mailing list on how to start > new project on Apache. > After reading posts on ma