Re: Apache JSecurity/Ki rename - please submit suggestions!

2009-05-24 Thread David Crossley
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > > Scroll back through the original thread. The point not collisions. > I have a really good chance of getting away with the software project > "Apache Kleenex" because the Kleenex registration refers to a paper > product, not a software product. > > But it does not

Re: Apache JSecurity/Ki rename - please submit suggestions!

2009-05-24 Thread David Crossley
Les Hazlewood wrote: > > We look forward to all name suggestions, and we appreciate anyone who wishes > to participate! Another solution is to invent a new word. I devised a tool to create new names. It has recently been accepted as a new project at Apache Labs [1]. "Using existing relevant word

Re: Apache JSecurity/Ki rename - please submit suggestions!

2009-05-21 Thread Ralph Goers
My recollection of the discussion was that the recommendations where a) don't ask the party that might be infringed on for permission, b) it is OK to wait for the project to wait until they are contacted, if ever, before doing anything. Ironically, shortly before this discussion there was a

Re: Apache JSecurity/Ki rename - please submit suggestions!

2009-05-20 Thread Maarten Bosteels
Hi, I just read http://markmail.org/message/kpk4x2bre4r4o2za and my conclusion is that it's really absurd that the project is going to change its name. In that thread, most people expressed preference to keep the name "JSecurity" and as far as I could see there never came a clear, decisive answer

Re: Apache JSecurity/Ki rename - please submit suggestions!

2009-05-20 Thread Chintana Wilamuna
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Les Hazlewood wrote: > We look forward to all name suggestions, and we appreciate anyone who wishes > to participate! Apache Narsil Narsil is the sword of Kind Elendil in Lord Of The Rings. Which acts as a symbol of great power and protection in the hands of who

Re: Apache JSecurity/Ki rename - please submit suggestions!

2009-05-20 Thread Les Hazlewood
I'll throw mine into the mix: Apache Shiro Shiro is the Japanese word for castle (城) No relevant hits in TESS. Many results for 'shiro' in Google, but no relevant results related to security. On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Edward J. Yoon wrote: > Apache Boahn > > It (Boahn:보안) means a 'secu

Re: Apache JSecurity/Ki rename - please submit suggestions!

2009-05-19 Thread Edward J. Yoon
Apache Boahn It (Boahn:보안) means a 'security' in Korean, and a druid name in WarCraft. ;) On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote: > Hi Apache Community. > > It seems as if our recently changed name of Apache Ki is not free from > potential naming conflict problems, and we'll need t

Re: Apache JSecurity/Ki rename - please submit suggestions!

2009-05-19 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Bernd Fondermann wrote: > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 21:53, William A. Rowe, Jr. > wrote: >> "Apache Kleenex" because the Kleenex registration refers to a paper >> product, not a software product. > > Gasp! Don't let the Kleenex folks hear that there product was not soft ware! And Bernd wins a bee

Re: Apache JSecurity/Ki rename - please submit suggestions!

2009-05-19 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 3:00 AM, Malcolm Edgar wrote: > What about Apache Security Apache Sekuriti (Malay/Indonesian) Cheers -- Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java I live here; http://tinyurl.com/2qq9er I work here; http://tinyurl.com/2ymelc I relax

Re: Apache JSecurity/Ki rename - please submit suggestions!

2009-05-19 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:53 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > I have a really good chance of getting away with the software project > "Apache Kleenex" because the Kleenex registration refers to a paper > product, not a software product. And when you get the C&D letter from Kimberly-Clark, will

Re: Apache JSecurity/Ki rename - please submit suggestions!

2009-05-19 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 21:53, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > "Apache Kleenex" because the Kleenex registration refers to a paper > product, not a software product. Gasp! Don't let the Kleenex folks hear that there product was not soft ware! Bernd --

Re: Apache JSecurity/Ki rename - please submit suggestions!

2009-05-19 Thread Malcolm Edgar
What about Apache Security regards Malcolm Edgar On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Brett Porter wrote: > Well, I was going to suggest: > > Apache Jaysec > > It is true to the original name, but sufficiently different not to cause > confusion. > > However, in the Google results, I found posts say

Re: Apache JSecurity/Ki rename - please submit suggestions!

2009-05-19 Thread Brett Porter
Well, I was going to suggest: Apache Jaysec It is true to the original name, but sufficiently different not to cause confusion. However, in the Google results, I found posts saying they didn't like JSec for the sound in the previous vote, which would have the same problem. It still mig

Re: Apache JSecurity/Ki rename - please submit suggestions!

2009-05-19 Thread Ralph Goers
On May 19, 2009, at 12:53 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Maarten Bosteels wrote: Hi Les, Is there an entry in TESS that shows us the potential naming conflict ? It could help us understand which names are good candidates. I don't quite understand the problem (IANAL). My apologies if this

Re: Apache JSecurity/Ki rename - please submit suggestions!

2009-05-19 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Maarten Bosteels wrote: > Hi Les, > > Is there an entry in TESS that shows us the potential naming conflict ? > It could help us understand which names are good candidates. > > I don't quite understand the problem (IANAL). > My apologies if this has all been discussed before. > > As far as I und

Re: Apache JSecurity/Ki rename - please submit suggestions!

2009-05-19 Thread Maarten Bosteels
Hi Les, Is there an entry in TESS that shows us the potential naming conflict ? It could help us understand which names are good candidates. I don't quite understand the problem (IANAL). My apologies if this has all been discussed before. As far as I understand, the name of the project is "Apac

Re: Apache JSecurity/Ki rename - please submit suggestions!

2009-05-19 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
sebb wrote: > PANEKANA - apparently means security in Hawaiian. > No hits in TESS. > Google shows no hits relating to commercial enterprises. I like the alliteration... a pa che pan e kan a - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsub

Re: Apache JSecurity/Ki rename - please submit suggestions!

2009-05-19 Thread Les Hazlewood
Thanks! On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:21 PM, sebb wrote: > PANEKANA - apparently means security in Hawaiian. > No hits in TESS. > Google shows no hits relating to commercial enterprises. > > On 19/05/2009, Les Hazlewood wrote: > > Hi Apache Community. > > > > It seems as if our recently changed n

Re: Apache JSecurity/Ki rename - please submit suggestions!

2009-05-19 Thread sebb
PANEKANA - apparently means security in Hawaiian. No hits in TESS. Google shows no hits relating to commercial enterprises. On 19/05/2009, Les Hazlewood wrote: > Hi Apache Community. > > It seems as if our recently changed name of Apache Ki is not free from > potential naming conflict problems,