Re: [RESULT] Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-23 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > On 23/08/2010 10:08, Richard Hirsch wrote: >> >> Was there a particular reason why the three podlings were selected >> (thrift, sis,  and esme). > > They all have Joe as a mentor and it is Joe who wants to drive this > experiment. He feels th

Re: [RESULT] Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-23 Thread Ross Gardler
On 23/08/2010 10:08, Richard Hirsch wrote: Was there a particular reason why the three podlings were selected (thrift, sis, and esme). They all have Joe as a mentor and it is Joe who wants to drive this experiment. He feels that this will benefit those particular projects. Ross D. On Mo

Re: [RESULT] Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-23 Thread Richard Hirsch
Was there a particular reason why the three podlings were selected (thrift, sis, and esme). D. On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: >> The vote has closed and here is the tally:... > > I was offline and missed the

Re: [RESULT] Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-23 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > The vote has closed and here is the tally:... I was offline and missed the vote but here's my late +1 for support! -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@

[RESULT] Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-21 Thread Joe Schaefer
participated! - Original Message > From: Joe Schaefer > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Wed, August 18, 2010 7:11:39 PM > Subject: Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC > > Now that the board has declared there are no legal > obs

Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-19 Thread Kevan Miller
+1 --kevan On Aug 18, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > Now that the board has declared there are no legal > obstacles to what I have proposed, I'd like to > restart the vote. > > Thanks for your patience and consideration. > > > > - Original Message >> From: Joe Schaefer >> To

Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-19 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > Now that the board has declared there are no legal > obstacles to what I have proposed, I'd like to > restart the vote. +1. -- justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsu

Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-19 Thread Matt Benson
On Aug 18, 2010, at 6:11 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > Now that the board has declared there are no legal > obstacles to what I have proposed, I'd like to > restart the vote. > +1 -Matt > Thanks for your patience and consideration. > > > > - Original Message >> From: Joe Schaefer >>

Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-19 Thread Greg Reddin
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > Specifically, for thrift, sis, and esme, I wish to > remove the current rule that requires 3 votes from > IPMC members to approve a vote on a new committer, > effectively delegating the decision to the PPMC. > Additionally the pre-ack would b

Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-19 Thread Carl Trieloff
+1 Carl. On 08/18/2010 07:31 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: +1 -- dims Sent from my iPhone On Aug 18, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: Now that the board has declared there are no legal obstacles to what I have proposed, I'd like to restart the vote. Thanks for your patience and

Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-19 Thread Michael McCandless
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > Now that the board has declared there are no legal > obstacles to what I have proposed, I'd like to > restart the vote. > > Thanks for your patience and consideration. +1 Mike

Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-18 Thread Christian Grobmeier
> Now that the board has declared there are no legal > obstacles to what I have proposed, I'd like to > restart the vote. > > Thanks for your patience and consideration. +1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.

Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-18 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2010-08-19, Joe Schaefer wrote: > Now that the board has declared there are no legal > obstacles to what I have proposed, I'd like to > restart the vote. > - Original Message >> From: Joe Schaefer >> Specifically, for thrift, sis, and esme, I wish to >> remove the current rule that

RE: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-18 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Greg Stein wrote: > The Board said that PMCs can make their own rules on how committership > is granted. The Board has no opinion on what the Incubator wants to do > with this topic because that choice is and has always been delegated > to the PMC. This is a consensus opinion of the Board, as no r

Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-18 Thread Daniel Kulp
+1 Dan On Wednesday 18 August 2010 7:11:39 pm Joe Schaefer wrote: > Now that the board has declared there are no legal > obstacles to what I have proposed, I'd like to > restart the vote. > > Thanks for your patience and consideration. > > > > - Original Message > > > From: Joe Sch

RE: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-18 Thread Gav...
> -Original Message- > From: Joe Schaefer [mailto:joe_schae...@yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, 19 August 2010 9:12 AM > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to > PPMC > > Now that the board has dec

Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-18 Thread Tim Williams
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > Now that the board has declared there are no legal > obstacles to what I have proposed, I'd like to > restart the vote. > > Thanks for your patience and consideration. +1, happy experimenting! --tim -

Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-18 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi Joe, +1 from me. Thanks for sticking with this. Cheers, Chris On 8/18/10 4:11 PM, "Joe Schaefer" wrote: Now that the board has declared there are no legal obstacles to what I have proposed, I'd like to restart the vote. Thanks for your patience and consideration. - Original Messag

Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-18 Thread Greg Stein
+1 On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 13:44, Joe Schaefer wrote: > I have come to the realization that I'm not > going to convince Noel to see things my way > any time soon, so I'd like to now ask for a > formal majority consensus vote on relaxed rules > for the 3 aforementioned projects. > > Specifically,

Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-18 Thread Greg Stein
To further expand on this comment: The Board said that PMCs can make their own rules on how committership is granted. The Board has no opinion on what the Incubator wants to do with this topic because that choice is and has always been delegated to the PMC. This is a consensus opinion of the Board

Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-18 Thread Niall Pemberton
+1 Niall On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > Now that the board has declared there are no legal > obstacles to what I have proposed, I'd like to > restart the vote. > > Thanks for your patience and consideration. > > > > - Original Message >> From: Joe Schaefer >> T

Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-18 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/18/10 23:11, Joe Schaefer wrote: > Now that the board has declared there are no legal > obstacles to what I have proposed, I'd like to > restart the vote. > > Thanks for your patience and consideration. I know I've been quite here, but I've been

Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-18 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 -- dims Sent from my iPhone On Aug 18, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > Now that the board has declared there are no legal > obstacles to what I have proposed, I'd like to > restart the vote. > > Thanks for your patience and consideration. > > > > - Original Message >> F

Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-18 Thread Joe Schaefer
Now that the board has declared there are no legal obstacles to what I have proposed, I'd like to restart the vote. Thanks for your patience and consideration. - Original Message > From: Joe Schaefer > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010 1:44:08 PM > Subject:

Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-16 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message > From: Noel J. Bergman > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010 2:22:02 PM > Subject: RE: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC > > Joe Schaefer wrote: > > > I have come to the realiza

RE: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-16 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Joe Schaefer wrote: > I have come to the realization that I'm not going to convince Noel > to see things my way any time soon, so I'd like to now ask for a > formal majority consensus vote on relaxed rules for [for] thrift, > sis, and esme, I wish to remove the current rule that requires 3 > votes

Re: [DISCUSS] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC (was Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC)

2010-08-16 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message > From: "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" > To: "general@incubator.apache.org" > Sent: Mon, August 16, 2010 1:48:38 PM > Subject: [DISCUSS] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC > (was >Re: [VOTE] experimental del

[DISCUSS] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC (was Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC)

2010-08-16 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
(starting new DISCUSS thread, to not pollute VOTE thread) Hi Joe, Can you do the VOTE for all Incubating projects? I'm sure mentors would put their own projects into the mix, so rather than just a few, let's do it for all of them. Cheers, Chris On 8/16/10 10:44 AM, "Joe Schaefer" wrote: I