Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-27 Thread Ariel Rabkin
I agree with Jerome and Chris. I also would opt for plan #2: incubation with TLP names. --Ari On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Chris Douglas wrote: > I agree with the analysis from Jerome and Greg. All three of Chukwa's > current committers are its original contributors. An important- and > oft

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-25 Thread Chris Douglas
> I meant, purely in terms of Hadoop putting forward the TLP motion to the > board, with incubator's endorsement.  But let's let options play out and > find out what incubator recommends first.  I wasn't suggesting that Hadoop > would have some additional responsibilities here, in terms of mentorin

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-25 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 6/25/2010 12:40 PM, Chris Douglas wrote: >> >> But the Incubator doesn't just say yes/no. We can refer this back to Hadoop >> proposing this as a TLP, and even offer the list of mentors as observers, or >> members of the initial PMC. > > The Hadoop PMC is wholly unqualified to manage Chukwa. I

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-25 Thread Chris Douglas
I agree with the analysis from Jerome and Greg. All three of Chukwa's current committers are its original contributors. An important- and often difficult- part of Apache community is growing and managing the developers working on the project. Some experience adding people in the Incubator would be

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-25 Thread Jerome Boulon
Hi, As one of the initial contributor, I still think that the incubator road is the good one even if it's just for a short period of time. The incubator will gives us the ability to get some committers outside of the initial group of people and to mature the project. When we will have reach that

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-25 Thread Greg Reddin
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:34 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > Yes, it seems that Hadoop PMC should supervise the vote for the chair, with > a slightly frustrating cc list of all of the actual committers to chukwa. > That way, nominations and votes for chair are archived on a private list. > > But

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-25 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 6/25/2010 3:55 AM, Bernd Fondermann wrote: > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 21:21, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > >> Is anyone in agreement with ant? Otherwise we should just move ahead >> and can hold a separate vote on allowing tlp resource creation at this >> time. >> >> If the proposers want (Eric

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-25 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 21:21, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 6/23/2010 8:12 AM, Bernd Fondermann wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 14:45, ant elder wrote: >> >>> IMHO we should insist on using the incubator naming for the Chukwa >>> website/svn/MLs because I think Chukwa should just go directly

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-25 Thread Eric Yang
+1 for 1. Regards, Eric On 6/24/10 12:21 PM, "William A. Rowe Jr." wrote: > On 6/23/2010 8:12 AM, Bernd Fondermann wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 14:45, ant elder wrote: >> >>> IMHO we should insist on using the incubator naming for the Chukwa >>> website/svn/MLs because I think Chukwa sh

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-24 Thread ant elder
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 8:21 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 6/23/2010 8:12 AM, Bernd Fondermann wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 14:45, ant elder wrote: >> >>> IMHO we should insist on using the incubator naming for the Chukwa >>> website/svn/MLs because I think Chukwa should just go direct

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-24 Thread Ariel Rabkin
Hrm. I think my preference is for 1 or 2. Given that Chukwa already has a fair bit of infrastructure up and running, seems like fewer renames is better and would reduce user confusion. --Ari On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 3:21 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 6/23/2010 8:12 AM, Bernd Fondermann wro

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-24 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 6/23/2010 8:12 AM, Bernd Fondermann wrote: > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 14:45, ant elder wrote: > >> IMHO we should insist on using the incubator naming for the Chukwa >> website/svn/MLs because I think Chukwa should just go directly to a >> TLP and if they have to use the incubator naming it may

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-23 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 14:45, ant elder wrote: > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Bernd Fondermann > wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 07:54, Eric Yang wrote: >>> Besides DOAP file and the incubator nomenclature, I may need help identify >>> the addition responsibilities for Apache PMC.  One pr

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-23 Thread ant elder
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Bernd Fondermann wrote: > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 07:54, Eric Yang wrote: >> Besides DOAP file and the incubator nomenclature, I may need help identify >> the addition responsibilities for Apache PMC.  One problem, Chukwa community >> did not have a vote for PMC C

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-23 Thread Greg Reddin
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 2:23 AM, Bernd Fondermann wrote: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 19:29, Eric Yang wrote: >> Please vote as to whether you think Chukwa should move to Apache incubator. +1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsu

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-23 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 07:54, Eric Yang wrote: > Besides DOAP file and the incubator nomenclature, I may need help identify > the addition responsibilities for Apache PMC.  One problem, Chukwa community > did not have a vote for PMC Chair because we are not sure what is the right > process for th

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-22 Thread Eric Yang
Besides DOAP file and the incubator nomenclature, I may need help identify the addition responsibilities for Apache PMC. One problem, Chukwa community did not have a vote for PMC Chair because we are not sure what is the right process for this. Meanwhile, I have been writing quarterly report like

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-22 Thread Greg Reddin
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Bernd Fondermann wrote: > IIUC, the only issue right now is that the committers are hesistant to > go TLP because they've never been on a PMC before. > >> The current proposal doesn't use the incubator naming for the mailing >> lists and svn location, from past dis

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-22 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 09:42, ant elder wrote: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 8:09 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. > wrote: >> On 6/21/2010 1:31 PM, Owen O'Malley wrote: >>> >>> On Jun 21, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: >>> Chukwa has been around for a while now and from my (albeit l

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-22 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 6/22/2010 2:42 AM, ant elder wrote: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 8:09 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. > wrote: >> On 6/21/2010 1:31 PM, Owen O'Malley wrote: >>> >>> On Jun 21, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: >>> Chukwa has been around for a while now and from my (albeit limited) >>

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-22 Thread ant elder
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 8:09 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 6/21/2010 1:31 PM, Owen O'Malley wrote: >> >> On Jun 21, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: >> >>> Chukwa has been around for a while now and from my (albeit limited) >>> impression, pretty successful. What's the rati

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-22 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 23:37, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 6/21/2010 12:29 PM, Eric Yang wrote: >> Please vote as to whether you think Chukwa should move to Apache incubator. >> >> The proposal is posted at: >> >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ChukwaProposal > > +1 +1 Added myself as a me

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-22 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 19:29, Eric Yang wrote: > Please vote as to whether you think Chukwa should move to Apache incubator. > > The proposal is posted at: > > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ChukwaProposal It's best practice to post the full proposal to the list, to have a snapshot archived.

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-21 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 6/21/2010 12:29 PM, Eric Yang wrote: > Please vote as to whether you think Chukwa should move to Apache incubator. > > The proposal is posted at: > > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ChukwaProposal +1 - To unsubscribe, e-mai

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-21 Thread Owen O'Malley
On Jun 21, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Eric Yang wrote: Please vote as to whether you think Chukwa should move to Apache incubator. The proposal is posted at: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ChukwaProposal +1 - To unsubscribe, e

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-21 Thread Leif Hedstrom
On 6/21/10 11:29 AM, Eric Yang wrote: Please vote as to whether you think Chukwa should move to Apache incubator. The proposal is posted at: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ChukwaProposal +1 (non-binding). Cheers, -- Leif -

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-21 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
+1 Regards, Alan On Jun 21, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Eric Yang wrote: > Please vote as to whether you think Chukwa should move to Apache incubator. > > The proposal is posted at: > > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ChukwaProposal > > Thanks > > Regards, > Eric > --

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-21 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hey Owen, +1, sounds good. Cheers, Chris On 6/21/10 11:31 AM, "Owen O'Malley" wrote: On Jun 21, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > Chukwa has been around for a while now and from my (albeit limited) > impression, pretty successful. What's the rationale for going the > Inc

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-21 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 6/21/2010 1:31 PM, Owen O'Malley wrote: > > On Jun 21, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > >> Chukwa has been around for a while now and from my (albeit limited) >> impression, pretty successful. What's the rationale for going the >> Incubator route rather than putting up a Bo

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-21 Thread Owen O'Malley
On Jun 21, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: Chukwa has been around for a while now and from my (albeit limited) impression, pretty successful. What's the rationale for going the Incubator route rather than putting up a Board TLP resolution? Just wanted to check, thanks gu

Re: [VOTE] Move Chukwa to incubator

2010-06-21 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hey Guys, Chukwa has been around for a while now and from my (albeit limited) impression, pretty successful. What's the rationale for going the Incubator route rather than putting up a Board TLP resolution? Just wanted to check, thanks guys! Cheers, Chris On 6/21/10 10:29 AM, "Eric Yang" wr