Re: [ROADMAP] Incubator Reorganization and getting *real* stuff done

2003-12-03 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Dec 3, 2003, at 3:55 AM, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Aaron Bannert wrote: ... Can we get the committers to vote/voice their opinion here so we can finally wrap this up? We have decided that the name must be reconsidered by the project. IIRC, the Geronimo project is obligated to reconsider their

Re: [ROADMAP] Incubator Reorganization and getting *real* stuff done

2003-12-03 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Dec 3, 2003, at 12:27 PM, Aaron Bannert wrote: On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 08:04:58PM -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: On Dec 2, 2003, at 5:40 PM, Aaron Bannert wrote: [...] I would like to hear what the current Geronimo committers think about the vote, and if they are ok with selecting a new name (

RE: [ROADMAP] Incubator Reorganization and getting *real* stuff done

2003-12-03 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Aaron Bannert wrote: > Jeremy Boynes wrote: > > I believe the most appropriate thing is to table this for the PPMC to > > handle. > What's the point of pretending the PPMC can take responsibility for > this when at the end of it a bunch of people are going to say it has > to change it's name befor

Re: [ROADMAP] Incubator Reorganization and getting *real* stuff done

2003-12-03 Thread Aaron Bannert
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 09:55:15AM +0100, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > > Aaron Bannert wrote: > ... > >Can we get the committers to vote/voice their opinion here so we can > >finally wrap this up? > > We have decided that the name must be reconsidered by the project. We > don't yet have anything

Re: [ROADMAP] Incubator Reorganization and getting *real* stuff done

2003-12-03 Thread Aaron Bannert
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 08:04:58PM -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: > > On Dec 2, 2003, at 5:40 PM, Aaron Bannert wrote: [...] > > I would > >like to hear what the current Geronimo committers think about the > >vote, and if they are ok with selecting a new name (or if they are > >vehemently oppos

Re: [ROADMAP] Incubator Reorganization and getting *real* stuff done

2003-12-03 Thread Aaron Bannert
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 04:41:46PM -0800, Jeremy Boynes wrote: > I believe the most appropriate thing is to table this for the PPMC to > handle. What's the point of pretending the PPMC can take responsibility for this when at the end of it a bunch of people are going to say it has to change it's

Re: [ROADMAP] Incubator Reorganization and getting *real* stuff done

2003-12-03 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Aaron Bannert wrote: ... Can we get the committers to vote/voice their opinion here so we can finally wrap this up? We have decided that the name must be reconsidered by the project. We don't yet have anything to represent the project, as it will be the PPMC. Thus this will be the first chore of

Re: [ROADMAP] Incubator Reorganization and getting *real* stuff done

2003-12-03 Thread James Strachan
On 3 Dec 2003, at 01:04, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: On Dec 2, 2003, at 5:40 PM, Aaron Bannert wrote: On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 09:58:02AM +0100, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: IMNSHO Geronimo can easily go on without a logo or a final name for a couple of weeks if needed, so I'll wait to get 3 done after

Re: [ROADMAP] Incubator Reorganization and getting *real* stuff done

2003-12-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Dec 2, 2003, at 5:40 PM, Aaron Bannert wrote: On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 09:58:02AM +0100, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: IMNSHO Geronimo can easily go on without a logo or a final name for a couple of weeks if needed, so I'll wait to get 3 done after 1 and 2 are done. Please don't postpone this any l

Re: [ROADMAP] Incubator Reorganization and getting *real* stuff done

2003-12-02 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Aaron Bannert wrote: On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 09:58:02AM +0100, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: IMNSHO Geronimo can easily go on without a logo or a final name for a couple of weeks if needed, so I'll wait to get 3 done after 1 and 2 are done. Please don't postpone this any longer. We have had a vot

RE: [ROADMAP] Incubator Reorganization and getting *real* stuff done

2003-12-02 Thread Noel J. Bergman
I don't see Geir, James Strachan, or any of the Geronimo folks on that list. And I am not sure if you have all of the votes recorded properly. As I understood Roy, he said that he'd prefer a different name (as would I), but I don't believe that he veto'd its use (neither did I). He vetoed the ide

Re: [ROADMAP] Incubator Reorganization and getting *real* stuff done

2003-12-02 Thread Aaron Bannert
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 09:58:02AM +0100, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > IMNSHO Geronimo can easily go on without a logo or a final name for a > couple of weeks if needed, so I'll wait to get 3 done after 1 and 2 are > done. Please don't postpone this any longer. We have had a vote. I would like to