Re: [PROPOSAL] Chatterbot, a lightweight framework for chat responders

2010-03-22 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 16:49, Donald Whytock wrote: > Okay, getting back into this.  Offering to mentor?  Have I your > permission to add you to the proposal in that capacity? Yep. > I would not be averse to this project being attached to a bigger > project.  Did you have a particular one in mi

Re: [PROPOSAL] Chatterbot, a lightweight framework for chat responders

2010-03-22 Thread Donald Whytock
Okay, getting back into this. Offering to mentor? Have I your permission to add you to the proposal in that capacity? I would not be averse to this project being attached to a bigger project. Did you have a particular one in mind? Don On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 3:45 AM, Bernd Fondermann wrote:

Re: [PROPOSAL] Chatterbot, a lightweight framework for chat responders

2010-03-12 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 22:23, Donald Whytock wrote: > Sorry to leave things on a sour note...had family in from college. > > Do we want to take this off-channel to discuss details? Preferrably - no. Let's continue here. Bernd --

Re: [PROPOSAL] Chatterbot, a lightweight framework for chat responders

2010-03-11 Thread Donald Whytock
Sorry to leave things on a sour note...had family in from college. Do we want to take this off-channel to discuss details? Don On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Bernd Fondermann wrote: > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 16:23, Donald Whytock wrote: >> So I gather that's a "no" on mentoring. > > throws Pa

Re: [PROPOSAL] Chatterbot, a lightweight framework for chat responders

2010-03-03 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 16:23, Donald Whytock wrote: > So I gather that's a "no" on mentoring. throws ParseException. In fact, I'm still volunteering to mentor (if you still want to have me). I only propose to think about and discuss to move it to an existing project's sandbox as an alternative t

Re: [PROPOSAL] Chatterbot, a lightweight framework for chat responders

2010-03-03 Thread Donald Whytock
So I gather that's a "no" on mentoring. Any other takers? Don On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 3:36 AM, Bernd Fondermann wrote: > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 00:06, Donald Whytock wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 4:10 AM, Bernd Fondermann >> wrote: >>> So, what are your short term goals with chatterbot? As

Re: [PROPOSAL] Chatterbot, a lightweight framework for chat responders

2010-03-03 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 00:06, Donald Whytock wrote: > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 4:10 AM, Bernd Fondermann > wrote: >> So, what are your short term goals with chatterbot? As you are on the >> incubator list and put up a proposal, the goal should be to become an >> Incubator project. Otherwise, we are

Re: [PROPOSAL] Chatterbot, a lightweight framework for chat responders

2010-03-02 Thread Donald Whytock
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 4:10 AM, Bernd Fondermann wrote: > So, what are your short term goals with chatterbot? As you are on the > incubator list and put up a proposal, the goal should be to become an > Incubator project. Otherwise, we are just wasting time here. > An important part of preparing fo

Re: [PROPOSAL] Chatterbot, a lightweight framework for chat responders

2010-03-02 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 00:43, Donald Whytock wrote: > Well, it seemed presumptuous to ask about mentors when I hardly had a > community...but thank you for your consideration.  Yes, mentoring > would be appreciated. So, what are your short term goals with chatterbot? As you are on the incubator l

Re: [PROPOSAL] Chatterbot, a lightweight framework for chat responders

2010-03-01 Thread Donald Whytock
Ignite lists Smack as licensed under the Apache license v2 (http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0), though it's not an Apache project. I assume that license is revokable by Ignite at any time? How does incorporating outside code work in Apache projects? Don On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 6:43 PM,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Chatterbot, a lightweight framework for chat responders

2010-03-01 Thread Donald Whytock
Well, it seemed presumptuous to ask about mentors when I hardly had a community...but thank you for your consideration. Yes, mentoring would be appreciated. I tested my XMPP handler against two servers: Google's chat server and one managed by dreamhost.com. The handler is rudimentary, yes; there

Re: [PROPOSAL] Chatterbot, a lightweight framework for chat responders

2010-03-01 Thread Bernd Fondermann
Hi, What about mentors? I cannot find any note you are actively searching for them, but maybe I missed that. As I think about volunteering to mentor, my question is: Against what server did you test your own XMPP implementation? Does it really work as it seems to be rudimentary to me. Why didn't

Re: [PROPOSAL] Chatterbot, a lightweight framework for chat responders

2010-03-01 Thread Donald Whytock
Hello again... Following is the revised proposal text, as posted on the wiki. Significant changes are the goals, which now focus on building the framework around Felix and devising a standard for protocol handlers to be used both inside and outside the project, and the committer list, which now in

Re: [PROPOSAL] Chatterbot, a lightweight framework for chat responders

2010-02-02 Thread Christopher Brind
Sorry for shaking things up, but it sounds like you got the gist of things. Using OSGi services to wire up Chatterbot makes it much more flexible in the long run allowing developers/users to plug in alternative implementations of things if they want to. I'm quite happy to join your project as a c

Re: [PROPOSAL] Chatterbot, a lightweight framework for chat responders

2010-02-01 Thread Donald Whytock
I had originally thought that Felix Shell would replace Chatterbot Listener, but I no longer think so. Felix Shell, as far as I can tell, is focused around Commands that have single outputs directed toward their originator; Chatterbot Parsers, in a multiuser environment, might have multiple output

Re: [PROPOSAL] Chatterbot, a lightweight framework for chat responders

2010-01-29 Thread Richard S. Hall
On 1/29/10 10:38, Donald Whytock wrote: I have an overview of the current Chatterbot architecture at http://www.imtower.net/chatterbot/doku.php?id=overview Chatterbot is different from JMS inasmuch as it's currently built to receive messages from chat IDs and turn them into messages from Chatte

Re: [PROPOSAL] Chatterbot, a lightweight framework for chat responders

2010-01-29 Thread Donald Whytock
I have an overview of the current Chatterbot architecture at http://www.imtower.net/chatterbot/doku.php?id=overview Chatterbot is different from JMS inasmuch as it's currently built to receive messages from chat IDs and turn them into messages from Chatterbot-internal IDs, and vice versa. My int

Re: [PROPOSAL] Chatterbot, a lightweight framework for chat responders

2010-01-29 Thread Christopher Brind
Hi, I have read through the proposal and I like the idea of it. The only issues I have are around modularity and shell/console. Apache already has a modularity solution (Felix) based on an open standard (OSGi) I don't think the Java community as a whole needs yet another modularity solution. =)