Re: [DISCUSS] OpenMiracl for Incubation

2015-12-03 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Brian Spector wrote: > Hi All, > > thanks for everyone's feedback and Sterling thank you for graciously coming > on board as an additional mentor. > > I'd like to propose that the proposed Apache OpenMiracl incubation project > be renamed to Apache Milagro. > > A

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenMiracl for Incubation

2015-12-03 Thread Patrick Hilt
Hi Jan, thanks for your interest! :-) To answer your question... Already noted in the proposal for being donated is the baseline platform for Milagro, which, on a high level, consists of the following: Milagro libraries and tools consisting of: - Distributed Key Management platform and se

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenMiracl for Incubation

2015-12-02 Thread Nick Kew
On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 14:53:03 + Jan Willem Janssen wrote: > Hi, > > > On 10 Nov 2015, at 10:29, Nick Kew wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2015-11-10 at 01:33 +, Nick Kew wrote: > >> I should like to propose that we consider OpenMiracl for > >> incubation. > > > > This proposal is now at > > https

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenMiracl for Incubation

2015-12-02 Thread Jan Willem Janssen
Hi, > On 10 Nov 2015, at 10:29, Nick Kew wrote: > > On Tue, 2015-11-10 at 01:33 +, Nick Kew wrote: >> I should like to propose that we consider OpenMiracl for incubation. > > This proposal is now at > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenMiraclProposal I’ve read the proposal with great in

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenMiracl for Incubation

2015-11-24 Thread Nick Kew
On Tue, 2015-11-24 at 07:43 +, Brian Spector wrote: > Hi All, > > thanks for everyone's feedback and Sterling thank you for graciously coming > on board as an additional mentor. > > I'd like to propose that the proposed Apache OpenMiracl incubation project > be renamed to Apache Milagro. Tha

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenMiracl for Incubation

2015-11-23 Thread Brian Spector
Hi All, thanks for everyone's feedback and Sterling thank you for graciously coming on board as an additional mentor. I'd like to propose that the proposed Apache OpenMiracl incubation project be renamed to Apache Milagro. A Milagro is a charm that is used to bring about a miracle, so the subtex

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenMiracl for Incubation

2015-11-22 Thread Patrick Hilt
Hi Greg, thanks for the input. We definitely appreciate it. We currently discussing that internally and it’s great to hear from someone who has been through this. The approach you tookwith HAWQ is quite interesting. Thanks again, Patrick Patrick Hilt Chief Technology Officer MIRACL > On No

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenMiracl for Incubation

2015-11-19 Thread Gregory Chase
Having been through this twice now with "Pivotal GemFire" begatting "Apache Geode" and "Pivotal HAWQ" becoming "Apache HAWQ" If the current owner intends to allow infringement on the MIRACL brand as a policy by any user of Apache Miracl, then that should be ok. In effect they will be putting

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenMiracl for Incubation

2015-11-18 Thread Nick Kew
On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 08:48 +0900, Brian Spector wrote: > Hi Alex, thank you for the suggestion, but from our point of view, as I > outlined below, we would disadvantage the project as a whole by not having > the MIRACL name in it. > > At the same time, I completely understand the concern that a c

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenMiracl for Incubation

2015-11-17 Thread Brian Spector
Hi Alex, thank you for the suggestion, but from our point of view, as I outlined below, we would disadvantage the project as a whole by not having the MIRACL name in it. At the same time, I completely understand the concern that a company who creates a product based on OpenMiracl might feel themse

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenMiracl for Incubation

2015-11-17 Thread Alex Harui
I am just a peanut in the peanut gallery, but if I wanted to create a competing product based on OpenMiracl, I would feel disadvantaged by the MIRACL brand because every time I attributed OpenMiracl it would be remind folks of your brand. Maybe you can name your Apache project something like “Good

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenMiracl for Incubation

2015-11-17 Thread Brian Spector
Hi Shane, given your role, I'm hoping you can make some suggestions to help us out of this bind so we can move forward. It would really be appreciated. As stated previously, 'OpenMiracl: A cryptosystem for cloud computing' is a 'proposed' Apache Project / platform name. MIRACL is the name of the

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenMiracl for Incubation

2015-11-17 Thread Nick Kew
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 15:21:02 -0500 Shane Curcuru wrote: > Marvin Humphrey wrote on 11/13/15 9:27 AM: > > A key point here is: would other organizations be interested in having > their employees contribute to the project? Or would other organizations > likely see that your company effectively hel

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenMiracl for Incubation

2015-11-17 Thread Shane Curcuru
Marvin Humphrey wrote on 11/13/15 9:27 AM: > Hello, Brian, > > Thanks for collaborating with Nick and bringing this proposal to us! > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Brian Spector > wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> among cryptographers in the embedded / IoT space, the 'MIRACL' brand has a >> lot of h

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenMiracl for Incubation

2015-11-17 Thread Shane Curcuru
Marvin Humphrey wrote on 11/11/15 12:42 AM: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Nick Kew wrote: > >>> The ASF project called OpenMiracl and Certivox/MIRACL continuing to use the >>> MIRACL mark would seem to muddy the water between the two. Would this not >>> disadvantage others building something

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenMiracl for Incubation

2015-11-13 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Hello, Brian, Thanks for collaborating with Nick and bringing this proposal to us! On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Brian Spector wrote: > Hi all, > > among cryptographers in the embedded / IoT space, the 'MIRACL' brand has a > lot of household name recognition. Most degreed cryptographers have

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenMiracl for Incubation

2015-11-12 Thread Brian Spector
Hi all, among cryptographers in the embedded / IoT space, the 'MIRACL' brand has a lot of household name recognition. Most degreed cryptographers have used it in their research. Code from the open source library is in hardware from Intel, Microsoft, Google, Siemens, Gemalto, etc. When we started

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenMiracl for Incubation

2015-11-11 Thread Patrick Hilt
Hi! Definitely interesting points to consider… I have just discussed this with Brian (MIracl CEO) and he’ll post some comments back and we can take it from there. Thanks for the input and support, Patrick --- Patrick Hilt Chief Technology Officer Certivox Ltd. > On Nov 10, 2015, at 9:53 PM, Al

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenMiracl for Incubation

2015-11-10 Thread Alex Harui
On 11/10/15, 9:37 PM, "Nick Kew" wrote: >On Wed, 2015-11-11 at 04:38 +, Alex Harui wrote: > >> In case it helps, when Adobe transferred the Flex trademark to the ASF, >> the ASF licensed use of the Flex trademark back to Adobe so Adobe could >> use Flex for its already-released versions and

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenMiracl for Incubation

2015-11-10 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Nick Kew wrote: >> The ASF project called OpenMiracl and Certivox/MIRACL continuing to use the >> MIRACL mark would seem to muddy the water between the two. Would this not >> disadvantage others building something based on OpenMiracl? > > Isn't it the same distinc

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenMiracl for Incubation

2015-11-10 Thread Nick Kew
On Wed, 2015-11-11 at 04:38 +, Alex Harui wrote: > In case it helps, when Adobe transferred the Flex trademark to the ASF, > the ASF licensed use of the Flex trademark back to Adobe so Adobe could > use Flex for its already-released versions and documentation. Aha, that's interesting. The su

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenMiracl for Incubation

2015-11-10 Thread Nick Kew
On Wed, 2015-11-11 at 00:35 +, Niall Pemberton wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Nick Kew wrote: > > > On Tue, 2015-11-10 at 01:33 +, Nick Kew wrote: > > > I should like to propose that we consider OpenMiracl for incubation. > > > > This proposal is now at > > https://wiki.apache.

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenMiracl for Incubation

2015-11-10 Thread Alex Harui
On 11/10/15, 4:35 PM, "Niall Pemberton" wrote: > >"As soon as OpenMiracl is accepted into the Incubator, Certivox (now >MIRACL) will transfer the source code and trademark to the ASF with a >Software Grant, and licensed under the Apache License 2.0. Certivox/MIRACL >retains rights to its existin

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenMiracl for Incubation

2015-11-10 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Nick Kew wrote: > On Tue, 2015-11-10 at 01:33 +, Nick Kew wrote: > > I should like to propose that we consider OpenMiracl for incubation. > > This proposal is now at > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenMiraclProposal "As soon as OpenMiracl is accepted i

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenMiracl for Incubation

2015-11-10 Thread Nick Kew
On Tue, 2015-11-10 at 01:33 +, Nick Kew wrote: > I should like to propose that we consider OpenMiracl for incubation. This proposal is now at https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenMiraclProposal -- Nick Kew - To unsubscrib

Re: [DISCUSS] OpenMiracl for Incubation

2015-11-09 Thread Nick Kew
On Tue, 2015-11-10 at 01:33 +, Nick Kew wrote: > [chop] I need to declare my own interest here. I first approached Certivox in search of solutions to the problems of online identity, and made some suggestions. They welcomed my interest, and I am now undertaking development work for them on a