Re: [DISCUSS] Daffodil Incubation Proposal

2017-08-09 Thread John D. Ament
Sorry, only responded to one part :/ You can start the vote as well. Feel free to follow the format used at https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/2da6f1920aa7d9f0ee9edbd2a4e6a8e0e5db9aac40e503fd87a4cdb0@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E If you have any questions, respond here or privately. John

Re: [DISCUSS] Daffodil Incubation Proposal

2017-08-09 Thread John D. Ament
Steve, You could list either of us. John On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 11:55 AM Steve Lawrence wrote: > Sounds good to me. Can I start a vote, or is something a champion/mentor > would normally start? The project also does not have a champion--is that > necessary/would either of you be interested in

Re: [DISCUSS] Daffodil Incubation Proposal

2017-08-09 Thread Steve Lawrence
Sounds good to me. Can I start a vote, or is something a champion/mentor would normally start? The project also does not have a champion--is that necessary/would either of you be interested in being the champion? Thanks, - Steve On 08/08/2017 10:59 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > Hi - > > I agree. I'm

Re: [DISCUSS] Daffodil Incubation Proposal

2017-08-08 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - I agree. I'm willing to proceed with John and I as Mentors. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 8, 2017, at 7:10 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > > Steve, > > At this point, I'd recommend we wrap the discussion and call for a vote. > While ideally we want 3 mentors, we can get starte

Re: [DISCUSS] Daffodil Incubation Proposal

2017-08-08 Thread John D. Ament
Steve, At this point, I'd recommend we wrap the discussion and call for a vote. While ideally we want 3 mentors, we can get started with 2 and see how things progress. John On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 3:55 PM Steve Lawrence wrote: > Thanks John! > > On 08/02/2017 03:23 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > >

Re: [DISCUSS] Daffodil Incubation Proposal

2017-08-02 Thread Steve Lawrence
Thanks John! On 08/02/2017 03:23 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > You can also count me in as a mentor. > > John > > On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 3:14 PM Steve Lawrence > wrote: > >> Understood. Thanks for the interest! >> >> - Steve >> >> On 08/02/2017 02:57 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >>> Hi Steve, >>> >>> I

Re: [DISCUSS] Daffodil Incubation Proposal

2017-08-02 Thread John D. Ament
You can also count me in as a mentor. John On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 3:14 PM Steve Lawrence wrote: > Understood. Thanks for the interest! > > - Steve > > On 08/02/2017 02:57 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > Hi Steve, > > > > It was not so much the lack of committers as it was the current > diversity. Th

Re: [DISCUSS] Daffodil Incubation Proposal

2017-08-02 Thread Steve Lawrence
Understood. Thanks for the interest! - Steve On 08/02/2017 02:57 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > Hi Steve, > > It was not so much the lack of committers as it was the current diversity. > That is not a blocker for entry to Incubation. > > I am willing to be one of the Mentors. Once there are at least

Re: [DISCUSS] Daffodil Incubation Proposal

2017-08-02 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Steve, It was not so much the lack of committers as it was the current diversity. That is not a blocker for entry to Incubation. I am willing to be one of the Mentors. Once there are at least two more we can push forward. Regards, Dave > On Aug 1, 2017, at 5:09 AM, Steve Lawrence > wrote

Re: [DISCUSS] Daffodil Incubation Proposal

2017-08-01 Thread Steve Lawrence
Discussions have died down, and I think the consensus from the responses is that the issues are 1) the lack of committers and 2) the lack of a champion and mentors. We hope to address #1 and grow the community as part of incubation. Is anyone interested in being a champion or mentor and help us wit

Re: [DISCUSS] Daffodil Incubation Proposal

2017-07-26 Thread Chris Mattmann
This sounds like a very interesting project. I don’t have the time to mentor at the moment but I will keep a close eye on it. Cheers, Chris Mattmann On 7/25/17, 11:53 AM, "McHenry, Kenton Guadron" wrote: Hi Dave, The developers that were at NCSA have moved on to other organiza

Re: [DISCUSS] Daffodil Incubation Proposal

2017-07-25 Thread McHenry, Kenton Guadron
Hi Dave, The developers that were at NCSA have moved on to other organizations. While we still leverage Daffodil and are very much interested in seeing it move forward, development is currently done by the Tresys team. Agreed on the synergy with Tika. Kenton McHenry, Ph.D. Principal Research

Re: [DISCUSS] Daffodil Incubation Proposal

2017-07-24 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Kenton, Is there any reason that you and others from the NCSA are not Initial Committers? That would make this proposal stronger. Regarding Apache Tika - it relies on other projects including Apache POI and Apache PDFBox. They are pragmatic about what is used. If Daffodil works to expand th

Re: [DISCUSS] Daffodil Incubation Proposal

2017-07-24 Thread McHenry, Kenton Guadron
Yes, DFDL and its open source implementation Daffodil are more about file formats and getting access to the entirety of a file's contents in a consistent way through machine readable specifications. The work has implications in the area of digital preservation allowing one to preserve these mac

Re: [DISCUSS] Daffodil Incubation Proposal

2017-07-24 Thread Steve Lawrence
I've emailed two Apache NiFi committers, but I did not realize that they were not ASF members, so couldn't be a champion. One of them reached out to an IPMC member who said that it was fine to write a proposal and send it to the gen@incubator without having a champion, and this could be a good way

Re: [DISCUSS] Daffodil Incubation Proposal

2017-07-24 Thread John D. Ament
Hi, This looks like a very interesting proposal. It's a bit worrisome though that you have no champion or mentor. Have you been in contact with anyone at the ASF on this? I see that the existing code appears to have 3 different copyright holders, and all code is derived from the BSD-3-clause li

Re: [DISCUSS] Daffodil Incubation Proposal

2017-07-24 Thread Steve Lawrence
I'll preface this saying that I don't have a ton of experience with Apache Tika. But based on my understanding, Tika and Daffodil do have somewhat similar goals, but reach them in different ways. For example, Tika requires that one writes /code/ to perform data extraction, usually relying on existi

Re: [DISCUSS] Daffodil Incubation Proposal

2017-07-24 Thread Mike Drob
What is the relationship between Daffodil and something like Apache Tika's extraction engine? On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Steve Lawrence < stephen.d.lawre...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Apache Incubator Community, > > We would like to start a discussion around a proposal to bring Daffodil > int