RE: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-16 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Ooops. I fell into the trap of making a general observation in a message with a log4net subject line. My bad. I'll follow up with another message with a new subject line. At 04:29 PM 3/16/2005, you wrote: > Apache is indeed an interesting place, although the incubator is not > necessarily repres

RE: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-16 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> Apache is indeed an interesting place, although the incubator is not > necessarily representative of the whole. What happens in the Incubator informs and seeds the next generation of ASF communities. This suggests to me that every active ASF Member, Officer and Director should be involved in th

RE: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-16 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Apache is indeed an interesting place, although the incubator is not necessarily representative of the whole. At 03:43 PM 3/16/2005, Nicko Cadell wrote: It has been an interesting and informative experience. Thanks for all your efforts. Nicko -- Ceki Gülcü The complete log4j manual: http://www.

RE: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-16 Thread Nicko Cadell
It has been an interesting and informative experience. Thanks for all your efforts. Nicko > -Original Message- > From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 16 March 2005 10:14 > To: general@logging.apache.org > Cc: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: log4net 1.2.9 beta relea

Re: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-15 Thread David Crossley
David Crossley wrote: > Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > > The Status Report is still not published. I sent a note to this > > > list a couple of days ago about your recent changes breaking the > > > documentation build. > > > > David, what do we need to get this fixed and going? If it is a simple > >

Re: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-15 Thread David Crossley
Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > The Status Report is still not published. I sent a note to this > > list a couple of days ago about your recent changes breaking the > > documentation build. > > David, what do we need to get this fixed and going? If it is a simple > syntax fix, do you have time to do i

RE: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-15 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> The Status Report is still not published. I sent a note to this > list a couple of days ago about your recent changes breaking the > documentation build. David, what do we need to get this fixed and going? If it is a simple syntax fix, do you have time to do it? --- Noel

Re: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-15 Thread David Crossley
Ceki G?lc? wrote: > Given that there seem to be no remaining objections for releasing a > snapshot of log4net, as already mentioned in [1], I intend to report > back to the LS PMC that the Incubator PMC approves a snapshot release > for log4net 1.2.9 beta. If I am misjudging the overall sentiment

RE: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-15 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Given that there seem to be no remaining objections for releasing a snapshot of log4net, as already mentioned in [1], I intend to report back to the LS PMC that the Incubator PMC approves a snapshot release for log4net 1.2.9 beta. If I am misjudging the overall sentiment of this PMC, please correc

RE: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-15 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > Nicko Cadell wrote: > > While we are actively working towards meeting the exit requirements we > > currently feel that it would benefit the project greatly to make a > > development (beta) release available now. > There is at least one precedent. There is plenty of

Re: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-15 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Nicko Cadell wrote: > > While we are actively working towards meeting the exit requirements we > currently feel that it would benefit the project greatly to make a > development (beta) release available now. There is at least one precedent. Derby made a releas

RE: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> Knowing log4X does not necessarily mean knowledge of log4Y, especially to > the extent of taking over a project if and when the need arises. > Would you care to clarify what you mean exactly by the term "taking > responsibility"? The ASF does not exist to sponsor projects with a lifespan measur

RE: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-12 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Noel, You have raised the exact same legitimate concern about log4cxx. Knowing log4X does not necessarily mean knowledge of log4Y, especially to the extent of taking over a project if and when the need arises. As such, having the LS PMC project take responsibility for log4cxx or log4net would be

Re: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-12 Thread Ceki Gülcü
At 09:46 PM 3/10/2005, Roy T.Fielding wrote: | -..-.. | Add all active committers in the STATUS file. The STATUS.txt file should be updated by Nicko within the next few days. is done and the logging PMC is ready to accept responsibility, then I think log4net should graduate from incubator. +1

RE: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-10 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Roy T. Fielding wrote: > Assuming you can also confirm that > | -..-.. | Add all active committers in the STATUS file. > is done and the logging PMC is ready to accept responsibility, > then I think log4net should graduate from incubator. +1 Does Logging PMC have a community ready to take re

Re: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-10 Thread Roy T . Fielding
On Mar 10, 2005, at 2:20 AM, Ceki Gülcü wrote: Roy et al., Done. I committed the updates yesterday as shown by the SVN notification message below. I now go on and update the section about 3rd party libraries. I would say that all IP concerns related to log4net have been addressed. Would you con

Re: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-10 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Roy et al., Done. I committed the updates yesterday as shown by the SVN notification message below. I now go on and update the section about 3rd party libraries. I would say that all IP concerns related to log4net have been addressed. Would you concur? > Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 11:18:56 - >

Re: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-09 Thread Roy T . Fielding
On Mar 9, 2005, at 3:00 AM, Ceki Gülcü wrote: At 01:39 AM 3/9/2005, Noel J. Bergman wrote: See Roy's message about the need to update the status file. One would expect that this is simply an oversight, and that the Logging PMC did not vote for a release with IP issues still open. Indeed, the soft

Re: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-09 Thread Ceki Gülcü
To summarize: 1) The foundation records attest that a software grant for log4net has been received by the foundation. 2) All log4net committers have sent in their signed CLAs. 3) All code in the logging-log4net CVS repository is Apache licensed. 4) Log4net does not depend on any third party libra

Re: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-09 Thread Ceki Gülcü
The foundation records attest that a software grant has been signed by Richard Hobbs of Neoworks Limited for the log4net source code. Public mailing lists indicate that this was done around 2004-01-26 after which the software was imported into the logging-log4net CVS repository. The foundation

RE: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-09 Thread Ceki Gülcü
At 01:39 AM 3/9/2005, Noel J. Bergman wrote: See Roy's message about the need to update the status file. One would expect that this is simply an oversight, and that the Logging PMC did not vote for a release with IP issues still open. Indeed, the software grant was sent to Jim sometime in January

RE: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-08 Thread Nicko Cadell
> On Mar 7, 2005, at 8:05 AM, Ceki Gülcü wrote: > > Is there any opposition or reservations in relation to the log4net > > snapshot release mentioned by Nicko and myself a few days ago? > > > > If not could we allow log4net to move forward? > > If the subproject has cleared its IP issues suffic

RE: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-08 Thread Nicko Cadell
> You expect someone to RTFM? ;-) Yes, there should be a > README or similar notice file in both the directory and the package. I have added a readme with the incubation disclaimer and updated the test package. Nicko - To

RE: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-08 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Nicko Cadell wrote: > What form must the disclaimer take? The form you found in the Incubation Policy documentation. > The incubation disclaimer is on the front page of the documentation > included with the package, in the doc/index.html file. Is this not > prominently displayed enough? must we

RE: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-08 Thread Nicko Cadell
eing release? Many thanks, Nicko > -Original Message- > From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 08 March 2005 16:07 > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: RE: log4net 1.2.9 beta release > > Nicko, > > The package must include, as must the

Re: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-08 Thread Roy T . Fielding
On Mar 7, 2005, at 8:05 AM, Ceki Gülcü wrote: Is there any opposition or reservations in relation to the log4net snapshot release mentioned by Nicko and myself a few days ago? If not could we allow log4net to move forward? If the subproject has cleared its IP issues sufficient to make a release,

RE: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-08 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Nicko, The package must include, as must the directory, the incubation disclaimer. --- Noel -Original Message- From: Nicko Cadell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 17:37 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: log4net 1.2.9 beta release Dear

RE: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-08 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Ping. At 05:05 PM 3/7/2005, you wrote: Hello, Is there any opposition or reservations in relation to the log4net snapshot release mentioned by Nicko and myself a few days ago? If not, could we allow log4net to move forward? Many thanks in advance, -- Ceki Gülcü --

RE: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-07 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Hello, Is there any opposition or reservations in relation to the log4net snapshot release mentioned by Nicko and myself a few days ago? If not could we allow log4net to move forward? Many thank in advance, At 11:37 PM 3/4/2005, Nicko Cadell wrote: Dear Incubator, I have created a test package wh

RE: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-04 Thread Nicko Cadell
Dear Incubator, I have created a test package which can be downloaded from here: http://www.apache.org/~nicko/log4net/ If this is not the correct place to publish a preview please let me know. As I understand it, once the release is approved, it should be published at: /www/cvs.apache.org/dist/