RE: Starting a new incubation

2009-04-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> > Now, the only thing missing for it to be perfect, in my book, > > is that it doesn't use maven to build... :) > I'm not a maven expert. There's a pom that currently does not work Par for the course. ;-) As long as it builds with Ant, people should be happy. --- Noel (reknowned Maven

Re: Starting a new incubation

2009-03-22 Thread Alexander Veit
> Scott Comer (sccomer) wrote: > Have you looked at apache etch? Yes, I now have looked at it. It's great. It seems that Etch has a much broader scope than Jaffre ever will have. If I understood it right, Etch comes with it's own interface description language, and let's users the freedom to imp

Re: Starting a new incubation

2009-03-19 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Outside the WS-*, JAX-WS and JAX-RS there are at least Etch and Thrift projects in a similar space. Those two projects are both high-performant, light-weight and more importantly language/platform inter-operable. Is there any particular advantage over these two projects that you can see for Jaffre?

Re: Starting a new incubation

2009-03-19 Thread Alexander Veit
> Siegfried Goeschl wrote: > could you provide some more technical background information The idea is quite simple and certainly not new in the Java world: method calls and return values are considered as data structures that are being serialized for transport. The data structures are JaffreCall

Re: Starting a new incubation

2009-03-19 Thread Scott Comer (sccomer)
Have you looked at apache etch? -Original Message- From: Siegfried Goeschl [mailto:siegfried.goes...@it20one.at] Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 05:09 AM Pacific Standard Time To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject:Re: Starting a new incubation Hi Alexander, could you

Re: Starting a new incubation

2009-03-19 Thread Siegfried Goeschl
Hi Alexander, could you provide some more technical background information +) how does it compare to RMI, JSON or Hessian (http://hessian.caucho.com/) Siegfried Goeschl Alexander Veit wrote: > Dear all, > > I would like to start an incubator project at the Apache Software Foundation > with a Ja

Re: Starting a new incubation

2009-03-19 Thread Christian Grobmeier
This really looks cool and I surely would have evluated it for my project, if available stable before two years. Would hessian as a binary format be an option for Jaffre btw? See: http://hessian.caucho.com/ its also released under ASL I think Commons would benefit from this component and I would

Re: Starting a new incubation

2009-03-19 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Alexander Veit wrote: >> Sounds like RMI is probably not the best comparison point. How does >> Jaffre differ from XML-RPC? Are there potential synergies with >> projects like http://ws.apache.org/xmlrpc/? > > I'm not familiar with XML-RPC. The Jaffre wire format

Re: Starting a new incubation

2009-03-18 Thread Alexander Veit
> Santiago Gala wrote: > I think it would be more appropriate as a "commons" component > than in any other place. I liked the stress on "not having any > dependence beyond the JRE" and "not being XML". Both play quite > badly with WS-*, where the norm is using XML and having lots of > (inter)depen

Re: Starting a new incubation

2009-03-18 Thread Alexander Veit
> Jukka Zitting wrote: > Sounds interesting. Is the code already available online? OK, I've made an ad hoc snapshot available for download: http://www.jaffre.org/ It's pre alpha. But the samples and also some test cases should work ;) > Sounds like RMI is probably not the best comparison point.

Re: Starting a new incubation

2009-03-18 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Santiago Gala wrote: > El mié, 18-03-2009 a las 11:40 +0100, Jukka Zitting escribió: >> Sounds like RMI is probably not the best comparison point. How does >> Jaffre differ from XML-RPC? Are there potential synergies with >> projects like http://ws.apache.org/

Re: Starting a new incubation

2009-03-18 Thread Santiago Gala
El mié, 18-03-2009 a las 11:40 +0100, Jukka Zitting escribió: > Hi, > > Sounds interesting. Is the code already available online? > > Sounds like RMI is probably not the best comparison point. How does > Jaffre differ from XML-RPC? Are there potential synergies with > projects like http://ws.apac

Re: Starting a new incubation

2009-03-18 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, Sounds interesting. Is the code already available online? Sounds like RMI is probably not the best comparison point. How does Jaffre differ from XML-RPC? Are there potential synergies with projects like http://ws.apache.org/xmlrpc/? BR, Jukka Zitting ---

Re: Starting a new incubation

2009-03-18 Thread Janne Jalkanen
> Jaffre does not need skeletons/stubs. The endpoints are pojos, parameters > and return values are java.io.Serializable objects. > > No registry is required. > > Jaffre Connectors listen well-defined ports that can easily be bound to a > specific address. They are firewall friendly. > > An exp

Re: Starting a new incubation

2009-03-17 Thread Alexander Veit
> Marcel Offermans wrote: > > Out of interest, if it's a simplified kind of RMI, what are > the tradeoffs for using RMI vs using Jaffre? Jaffre does not need skeletons/stubs. The endpoints are pojos, parameters and return values are java.io.Serializable objects. No registry is required. Jaffre

Re: Starting a new incubation

2009-03-17 Thread Marcel Offermans
On Mar 17, 2009, at 22:54 , Alexander Veit wrote: Two, it sounds like your project is related to the web services world. So check out the projects under the Apache WS umbrella (http://ws.apache.org/), and also Apache CXF. Yes, there are similarities to web services. However, Jaffre neither d

Re: Starting a new incubation

2009-03-17 Thread Alexander Veit
Hi Thilo, Thank you very much for your answer. > Thilo Goetz wrote: > > there are two things I'd advise you to do. > > One, put up a project proposal in the incubator wiki: > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ > You can also look at older proposals there. There is > no need to do this all at on

Re: Starting a new incubation

2009-03-17 Thread Thilo Goetz
Alexander Veit wrote: > Dear all, > > I would like to start an incubator project at the Apache Software Foundation > with a Java library (let's call it Jaffre) I've written. > > Jaffre is a lightweight RPC library for the Java platform. > It is designed to be simple, extensible, robust, and effi