Re: I still don't see your priorities

2015-07-08 Thread toki
On 07/04/2015 04:53 PM, Stefan Reich wrote: > How about taking something good that WANTS TO EXIST, and supporting that? I didn't know that software was sentient. If you meant "software that somebody wants to exist", I can point you to thousands of projects that got no further than a name, a prop

Re: I still don't see your priorities

2015-07-07 Thread jan i
On 4 July 2015 at 18:53, Stefan Reich < stefan.reich.maker.of@googlemail.com> wrote: > You wait for something to exist, and THEN you support it? > > How about taking something good that WANTS TO EXIST, and supporting that? > Well it is hard to imagine something that wants to exist. Normally it

Re: I still don't see your priorities

2015-07-06 Thread Rich Bowen
On 07/06/2015 11:08 AM, Alan R Williams wrote: I think it is about Stefan's wish for Apache to become the home for JavaX http://javax.tinybrain.de/ See http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201505.mbox/%3CCAC2-jLHrU67-6hSOXMoidADe%2BeE_KSRfjzY07o1wtiG%2BL0dfwQ%40mail.gmail

Re: I still don't see your priorities

2015-07-06 Thread Alan R Williams
I think it is about Stefan's wish for Apache to become the home for JavaX http://javax.tinybrain.de/ See http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201505.mbox/%3CCAC2-jLHrU67-6hSOXMoidADe%2BeE_KSRfjzY07o1wtiG%2BL0dfwQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E for the original discussion. Alan On

Re: I still don't see your priorities

2015-07-06 Thread Jukka Zitting
Gmail marks Stefan Reich's messages as spam as they don't pass all sender domain checks. That makes following this thread a bit difficult. 2015-07-06 10:52 GMT-04:00 Rich Bowen : > I presume, since your message has received responses, that it's clear to > *someone* what you're talking about. To t

Re: I still don't see your priorities

2015-07-06 Thread Rich Bowen
I presume, since your message has received responses, that it's clear to *someone* what you're talking about. To the rest of us, this feels like a message that was either posted the wrong place, or simply lacks any context whatsoever. Can you either elaborate on what this rant is about, or tak

Re: I still don't see your priorities

2015-07-05 Thread Jochen Theodorou
Hi again, sorry, I was not clear enough when I mentioned time. I guess it did let you think in the wrong direction. 3 years is time, yes, but what counts is the work done and the diversity. What about contributors/committer? You should come with a couple of people (4+) that can work actively o

Re: I still don't see your priorities

2015-07-04 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Unfortunately you come across to me in the worst possible manner, not happy with the status quo and only complaining. ASF works in a manner of; a. Do-acracy. Don't expect anyone else but you to make the changes you want to see. b. Small reversible steps. Suggesting (and/or executing) very big cha

Re: I still don't see your priorities

2015-07-04 Thread Stefan Reich
BTW I'm not even talking about payments. I talk about *collaborating*. And I do understand perfectly fine. Stefan Am 04.07.2015 19:26 schrieb "Jochen Theodorou" : > Am 04.07.2015 18:53, schrieb Stefan Reich: > >> You wait for something to exist, and THEN you support it? >> >> How about taking s

Re: I still don't see your priorities

2015-07-04 Thread Stefan Reich
Basic work for TinyBrain has been done. It's been at least 3 years. Am 04.07.2015 19:26 schrieb "Jochen Theodorou" : > Am 04.07.2015 18:53, schrieb Stefan Reich: > >> You wait for something to exist, and THEN you support it? >> >> How about taking something good that WANTS TO EXIST, and supporting

RE: I still don't see your priorities

2015-07-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Stefan, In the couple of months since you first suggested that JavaX might become an Apache Project, there have been many discussions about new projects entering the incubator. There are also many completed and accepted proposals for incubating projects. Have you observed any of that? Have y

Re: I still don't see your priorities

2015-07-04 Thread Alan R Williams
On 04-Jul-15 17:53, Stefan Reich wrote: You wait for something to exist, and THEN you support it? How about taking something good that WANTS TO EXIST, and supporting that? Outside of science fiction, software itself does not WANT TO EXIST. There must be people who want it to exist and then st

Re: I still don't see your priorities

2015-07-04 Thread Jochen Theodorou
Am 04.07.2015 18:53, schrieb Stefan Reich: You wait for something to exist, and THEN you support it? How about taking something good that WANTS TO EXIST, and supporting that? Stefan, you sill don't understand that the ASF is basically a bunch of people supporting open source in their free tim