RE: [RESULT][VOTE] Arnuad Simon as committer for Qpid

2007-05-30 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Rajith Attapattu wrote: > Now that we have 3 votes from IPMC, can we please proceed with the accout > creation for arnuad? Yes. Please have one of your Mentors follow through on the account request. > Had Yoav enough time to familliarize himself with the project, I am sure he > would have voted

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Arnuad Simon as committer for Qpid

2007-05-30 Thread Rajith Attapattu
Noel, Now that we have 3 votes from IPMC, can we please proceed with the accout creation for arnuad? Thanks Henry for giving the +1 for this thread. Besides Yoav has +0 so I guess there are no objections at all. Arnaud has been very active in the last two months and he throughly deserves to be a

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Arnuad Simon as committer for Qpid

2007-05-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Gilles Scokart wrote: > My understanding is that ASF provide us some kind of 'legal' > protection (I don't know which one) provided that you have send your > ICLA. Isn't it a type of contract? Acutally, that would be the AL (which you license your contributions under) which says "no warranty - do

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Arnuad Simon as committer for Qpid

2007-05-30 Thread Gilles Scokart
My understanding is that ASF provide us some kind of 'legal' protection (I don't know which one) provided that you have send your ICLA. Isn't it a type of contract? Gilles 2007/5/30, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Wednesday 30 May 2007 12:42, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > Mmm - bzzz -

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Arnuad Simon as committer for Qpid

2007-05-29 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wednesday 30 May 2007 12:42, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > Mmm - bzzz - that's incorrect.  You'll recall you signed a legally binding > document to become a committer? H... Now when you mention it, it is actually quite interesting. First of all the ICLA is not a contract (from the little

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Arnuad Simon as committer for Qpid

2007-05-29 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Wednesday 30 May 2007 07:15, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: >> LEGALLY PPMC votes mean zilch; this is because the board did not charter >> or compose the PPMC, doesn't decompose it, doesn't even oversee it per say. > > And a majority of decisions within a (P)PMC has no lega

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Arnuad Simon as committer for Qpid

2007-05-29 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wednesday 30 May 2007 07:15, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > LEGALLY PPMC votes mean zilch; this is because the board did not charter > or compose the PPMC, doesn't decompose it, doesn't even oversee it per say. And a majority of decisions within a (P)PMC has no legal consequence, and hence no n

RE: [RESULT][VOTE] Arnuad Simon as committer for Qpid

2007-05-29 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Yoav Shapira wrote: > I voted +0, not having had time to review the proposed committer's > contributions. +1 != +0 > I always thought (and the documentation at > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html) says PPMC votes are > binding. It says (P), and the (P) clearly does not belong. Noti

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Arnuad Simon as committer for Qpid

2007-05-29 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Yoav Shapira wrote: > That's not true. Practically speaking, mentors may not have time to > review an issue that other PPMC members have had plenty of time to > review and vote upon. That's true, but we are overseeing their -process- not always the details. I have a great deal of confidence in v

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Arnuad Simon as committer for Qpid

2007-05-29 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hey, On 5/29/07, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: They've put the onus on the IPMC to oversee and conduct all incubating projects. In practice, that means the IPMC puts their weight behind the PPMC members' decisions. Practically speaking, unless something is horribly wrong with

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Arnuad Simon as committer for Qpid

2007-05-29 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Yoav Shapira wrote: > > On 5/29/07, Yoav Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I always thought (and the documentation at >> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html) says PPMC votes are >> binding. There were plenty of PPMC +1 votes without my vote. If I'm >> wrong, it (a) sucks because oth

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Arnuad Simon as committer for Qpid

2007-05-29 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hey, On 5/29/07, Yoav Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I always thought (and the documentation at http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html) says PPMC votes are binding. There were plenty of PPMC +1 votes without my vote. If I'm wrong, it (a) sucks because other PPMC members don't learn t

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Arnuad Simon as committer for Qpid

2007-05-29 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hey, On 5/29/07, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Vote results so far > 15 +1 votes > 1 0 > No -1. Yes, but I only see two +1 that are binding: > Cliff Schmidt > Paul Frematle Did I miss a third? A few of us have been reviewing the vote summary and thread today, and n

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Arnuad Simon as committer for Qpid

2007-05-29 Thread Henri Yandell
To clear things up, add my +1 to the vote. Arnaud's activity in the JIRA looks good. Watch the '0 votes' bit. Normally we take that to mean a +0, so the immediate question is "Why did Yoav not want to vote +1?", but I think you meant that he hadn't voted. Plus what Noel just said. Hen On 5/29/0

RE: [RESULT][VOTE] Arnuad Simon as committer for Qpid

2007-05-29 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Carl Trieloff wrote: > The following vote has been open for 6 days, Here is the vote result to > add Arnuad Simon to the Qpid project. > Vote results so far > 15 +1 votes > 1 0 > No -1. Yes, but I only see two +1 that are binding: > Cliff Schmidt > Paul Frematle Did I miss a third?